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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #37434
09/03/07 09:27 PM
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For the pic that I posted above, I just used the SSR3. But I wouldn't recommend finishing the job there. On my hood I used SSR3, then SSR2.5, then the Poorboy's Professional Polish and then I topped it off with the EX-P synthetic sealant.




Hey Aussie...thanks for sharing your finishing secrets with us! Is the Professional Polish necessary for a great finish? I'm considering starting with the SSR 2.5 or 2 and then going directly to the EX Sealant with Carnauba.

If you were on a budget and couldn't buy all the aforementioned products, which ones would you consider the bare minimum for an excellent shine?

Thanks!

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #37435
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This is slightly off topic, but I have a question about filling dings.

I have some small dents and dings, nothing major. I have never used anf fillers, but I was wondering what would be ideal for filling small dents and dings. As of now, I think I am going to try evercoat rage extreme, and get some evercoat metalglaze for the minor scratces.

Any other recommendations?


PS...The topsecret TS-100 should be here later this week. I will have pics posted as soon as I get 2 coats on.

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #37436
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The Poorboy's SSR2.5 is an awesome swirl remover and if you are careful to keep buffing with it until most of the polish residue had gone then you would probably be able to straight from the SSR2.5 to the EX-P or wax.

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Any filler will work. I never tried the evercoat stuff, always used the cheap bondo, one time sprung for the "bondo gold" but didn't like it. I preferred the original bondo so I could judge by the color about the mixture.

You can mix in fiberglass resin into any of the hardened body fillers, to make it runnier/smoother (called a skim coat)-- that works really well for filling in scratches, nicks in paint, and over a layer of (already hardened) filler mix to fill in pinholes and sanding scratches. With fiberglass resin, it takes a bit longer to dry.

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #37438
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The Poorboy's SSR2.5 is an awesome swirl remover and if you are careful to keep buffing with it until most of the polish residue had gone then you would probably be able to straight from the SSR2.5 to the EX-P or wax.




Thanks! Is there any advantage to going with the EX-P over the wax? Would the EX-P do the same thing as wax?

Also, for the cheapo polishers, what is the equivalent of a cutting pad? I can use micro fiber or terry cloth bonnets with mine. Would I use the SSR2.5 with the terry cloth bonnet and then switch to the microfiber one for use with the wax/EX-P?

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EX-P is a synthetic sealant and it will outlast a wax by months. It won't look as 'wet' as a wax finish will though.

If you have a real super el-cheapo polisher that looks like one of these



then don't even bother trying it on your paint. They are useless.

If you can afford to get even a cheap random orbital sander like one of these


as well as a light cutting pad and a polishing pad you will be in business. Actually one of those polishers and the two pads will give you the chance to recoup your money by doing one or two paying details.

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #37440
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Aussie I have 2 Dewalt random orbit sander. I was wondering what pads would you recommend for them. They are both 5 inches.

Hey Exit good to see you again. Hows the car coming? Any new pics?

Barry


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Thanks again.

I actually have a 6" random orbital polisher I picked up from walmart for about $15...I think its max speed is just under 3K. I had thought that this would be OK considering that Charger69 said he used the el cheapo units himself.

Before I do my car, I'd like to get the porter cable unit that everyone here talks about. I'm hoping to be able to finish my bike w/o doing so though.

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Before I do my car, I'd like to get the porter cable unit that everyone here talks about. I'm hoping to be able to finish my bike w/o doing so though.




For a NEW PC7424

Try here ... http://stores.ebay.com/RAM-Tools

Always has several for sale, Lowest price, lowest shipping, ships fast. Got mine here in Porter Cable box ... which was inside a spaghetti & chili box to throw the neighbors off for the hours it sat on my porch after the UPS guy delivered. Haven't put mine to use yet ... still have to get the polish and pads needed for it ... may put some wax on my truck with the pad that came with it, but it won't polish with that pad.

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #37443
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Before I do my car, I'd like to get the porter cable unit that everyone here talks about. I'm hoping to be able to finish my bike w/o doing so though.




For a NEW PC7424

Try here ... http://stores.ebay.com/RAM-Tools

Always has several for sale, Lowest price, lowest shipping, ships fast. Got mine here in Porter Cable box ... which was inside a spaghetti & chili box to throw the neighbors off for the hours it sat on my porch after the UPS guy delivered. Haven't put mine to use yet ... still have to get the polish and pads needed for it ... may put some wax on my truck with the pad that came with it, but it won't polish with that pad.




Just thought I would put in a good word for the Porter Cable. The 7424 has been sold for years as an orbital sander. I have used mine off and on for three years. I just finished sanding smooth the red cedar shingles on the three storey weather side of my house. It whipped right through that and is going strong. I have seen the polisher attachments for about $17.00. Now that I am through sanding for a while, I think I'll buy the polisher attachments.

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #37444
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Aussie I have 2 Dewalt random orbit sander. I was wondering what pads would you recommend for them. They are both 5 inches.

Hey Exit good to see you again. Hows the car coming? Any new pics?

Barry






Hi Muskin, thanks for the re-welcome. Ive been totally focused on getting this thing running so havent been reading about paint lately. Here's a pic of the finished motor:



and here's a little video of it running during break in. first fire was sunday.

http://picasaweb.google.com/ucdcrush/Dart/photo#5106194859799937282

i wont be able to work on it for a couple weeks, but it's just about ready to get on the road - need to reattach the bumpers, grill, mirrors, and clean the windows. then i can get some outdoor paint pics. I am planning to do another 2-3 coats with the brightside hatteras white as well-- the drivers side door is not 100% covered and i have some runs i need to sand down, might as well roll the whole panel in that case.



by the way - has anyone found a good way to get this paint mixture off of glass? i tried mineral spirits, and it works but takes a lot of elbow grease..

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: Exit1965] #37445
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by the way - has anyone found a good way to get this paint mixture off of glass? i tried mineral spirits, and it works but takes a lot of elbow grease..




How about a razor blade? If not that, they have orange plastic paint remover blades for glass too.

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: Blackstone] #37446
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hey sergio,

great job so far,

what are you spraying with?

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Looking good.

What did you coat your headers with?

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #37448
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Looking good.

What did you coat your headers with?




It's rustoleum silver BBQ paint. i have read of others using the same, or the black stuff. don't know about the longevity, but they seem OK so far after about 30 mins of runtime, some of it over 200 degrees water temp.

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hey sergio,

great job so far,

what are you spraying with?




I am using an old small oil-less air compressor, a cheapo Harbour Freight HVLP spray gun (about 15.00).

I think I might buy another bigger compressor as this is just too small.

Sergio

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2nd Rustoleum Coat, a few more runs, will wait a couple more days, sand them down and go for the first Brightside Coat.





Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #37451
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looking good.

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Exit1965 you trying to have it feady for Fall Fling in Van Nuys in November? I would love to check it out if you do.

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Nah I'm not planning on putting it in any shows! Just occasional weekend driving

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