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Re: B body rear in an E body [Re: CJK440] #370270
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I assume you have a stock E-body rear sway bar.

I would talk to Dick Ross at Firm Feel. I think his '68-'70 B-body bar will bolt to your existing brackets.

Re: B body rear in an E body [Re: CJK440] #370271
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OK, I got the Dr Diff kit in and installed. Nice pieces.

One problem now. The rear sway bar doesn't line up any longer. The end links are at too much of an extreme angle. And even if I was to keep the Ebody bar I imagine it would now be in the way of a wide tire.

What are my options?? Is there a B-body rear bar that will bolt in and line up??

Can I section the bar, remove 2 inches out of the middle and weld it back together with a steel tube in the middle?




Let us know what you come up with the sway bar and please post pics of the rear end and rims/tires under your car.
I'm going to be doing the B body rear swap into the wife's Challenger soon.
I already have Dr. Diff's kit and plan to try to stuff a 15x10 wheel under the car with 5.75" backspacing using a 1/4" wheel spacer.
Tires are going to be 325/50-15 BFG Drag radials.

Re: B body rear in an E body [Re: KillerBee] #370272
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OK, I got the Dr Diff kit in and installed. Nice pieces.

One problem now. The rear sway bar doesn't line up any longer. The end links are at too much of an extreme angle. And even if I was to keep the Ebody bar I imagine it would now be in the way of a wide tire.

What are my options?? Is there a B-body rear bar that will bolt in and line up??

Can I section the bar, remove 2 inches out of the middle and weld it back together with a steel tube in the middle?




Let us know what you come up with the sway bar and please post pics of the rear end and rims/tires under your car.
I'm going to be doing the B body rear swap into the wife's Challenger soon.
I already have Dr. Diff's kit and plan to try to stuff a 15x10 wheel under the car with 5.75" backspacing using a 1/4" wheel spacer.
Tires are going to be 325/50-15 BFG Drag radials.




Well it will be a while before wider tires get on. I bought the kit primarily because the car came with a B rear with some cobbled shackles and I liked the option of bigger tires in teh future as opposed to putting an E-rear back in.


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Re: B body rear in an E body [Re: RTSE4ME] #370273
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Well its time to make the call and order some rear wheels with drag radials so I can make a couple events before the end of the season.

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5.5" BS on 10" wheel with a 68-70 b-body rear
5" BS on a 10" wheel with earlier b-body rear.

I have 5.25" BS on 9.5" wheel with 275/50/17 tires. I have a dana out a 69 b-body.




I took a accurate measurement of the rear, drum face to drum face. Looks like I have a 65-67 rear as the measurement was exactly 59.5"

I have 15x8 rallyes with 4.5" backspace now and have 3/4" clearance between the leaf and sidewall. So it looks like whatever I choose can have no more than 5" of BS like was said.

Decisions, decisions.


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Re: B body rear in an E body [Re: CJK440] #370274
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I've been thinking of this for a while myself since I am going to narrow my Bees rear, I thought I'd swap B&E rears and just chop up the E body rear for the B body. I'm glad I read this... I never really thought about the rear sway bar not working.

I might just relocate the perches on the e body rear with Dr. Diff's kit and add rim width on the back side instead of swapping rears.

Re: B body rear in an E body [Re: PAINT IT BLACK] #370275
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To fix the sway bar I simply removed the bar & took it to the press,, I bent the arms inward 3/4" per side.. Easy to do, it's caused no problems & never has rubbed...

Re: B body rear in an E body [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #370276
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To fix the sway bar I simply removed the bar & took it to the press,, I bent the arms inward 3/4" per side.. Easy to do, it's caused no problems & never has rubbed...




Jeez, thats so simple.

Love it, especially since I don't have to open my wallet to do it.


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Re: B body rear in an E body [Re: CJK440] #370277
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To fix the sway bar I simply removed the bar & took it to the press,, I bent the arms inward 3/4" per side.. Easy to do, it's caused no problems & never has rubbed...




Jeez, thats so simple.

Love it, especially since I don't have to open my wallet to do it.




Just like a cylinder shop press or what? How would you rig it up to get it to do what you wanted?

Re: B body rear in an E body [Re: PAINT IT BLACK] #370278
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To fix the sway bar I simply removed the bar & took it to the press,, I bent the arms inward 3/4" per side.. Easy to do, it's caused no problems & never has rubbed...




Jeez, thats so simple.

Love it, especially since I don't have to open my wallet to do it.




Just like a cylinder shop press or what? How would you rig it up to get it to do what you wanted?





All you do is put the bar so one arm & the main length of the bar sit in the throat of the press, I used a piece of 1/2" flat stock as an adapter between the ram & the "V" created by the bar & simply press... The arm will bend, thats how they bent it it the first place... It's spring steel so it tries to spring back but the press will excede the springs ability & it will bend... I took a measurement before I started then when one arm is in 3/4" flip the bar & do it again...

Re: B body rear in an E body [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #370279
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All you do is put the bar so one arm & the main length of the bar sit in the throat of the press, I used a piece of 1/2" flat stock as an adapter between the ram & the "V" created by the bar & simply press... The arm will bend, thats how they bent it it the first place... It's spring steel so it tries to spring back but the press will excede the springs ability & it will bend... I took a measurement before I started then when one arm is in 3/4" flip the bar & do it again...




Good to know!

Re: B body rear in an E body [Re: PAINT IT BLACK] #370280
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I have the 65-67 rear on my car. Think I can stuff a 325/50 on a 15x10 rim with 5" BS????


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Re: B body rear in an E body [Re: CJK440] #370281
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I have the 65-67 rear on my car. Think I can stuff a 325/50 on a 15x10 rim with 5" BS????




The height is 1/10" shorter. And the width should be 2" wider. Essentially the same tire dynamic as a 275/60R15 is for an 8", so I imagine yes. I priced the 325/50 today looking for a BFG radial TA and they apparently don't make them in that size??? They do make a BFG g-force drag radial in that size.

I may get the offset hangers and an extra couple of wheels for some drag radials... But I like the way my TAs look so I'll probably stay with the 8" for my typical use...

Re: B body rear in an E body [Re: KillerBee] #370282
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and please post pics of the rear end and rims/tires under your car.




Probably not going to be everybodies cup of tea, but heres what I ended up with. Member Cudazappa had these nearby and they are perfect for my non-stock setup.



I'm real happy with the end result.

Rears are 18x10 with 5" BS with 285/40's. Fronts are 17x8's with 4.5" BS and 235/50's. Fronts rub a bit, hopefully a couple cranks of the T-bars fix it.


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Re: B body rear in an E body [Re: CJK440] #370283
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and please post pics of the rear end and rims/tires under your car.




Probably not going to be everybodies cup of tea, but heres what I ended up with. Member Cudazappa had these nearby and they are perfect for my non-stock setup.



I'm real happy with the end result.

Rears are 18x10 with 5" BS with 285/40's. Fronts are 17x8's with 4.5" BS and 235/50's. Fronts rub a bit, hopefully a couple cranks of the T-bars fix it.



Great looking Challenger! Got any more pics of it?

Re: B body rear in an E body [Re: Evil_Ways] #370284
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I bought it over a month ago and have been busy changing things I didn't like and fixing things that were pretty unsafe. Its got a 380hp crate 360, fresh close ratio 4 speed, 3.90 sure grip. Front sway bar and will have the rear soon. Subframe connectors, 11.75" front disks, manual alum master. Its a fun car to drive. I'm chasing an oil leak down but its good to get back into a driver.


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Re: B body rear in an E body [Re: CJK440] #370285
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Good looking car Chris

Re: B body rear in an E body [Re: JohnRR] #370286
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Thanks for the pics.

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I bought it over a month ago and have been busy changing things I didn't like and fixing things that were pretty unsafe. Its got a 380hp crate 360, fresh close ratio 4 speed, 3.90 sure grip. Front sway bar and will have the rear soon. Subframe connectors, 11.75" front disks, manual alum master. Its a fun car to drive. I'm chasing an oil leak down but its good to get back into a driver.





Wow!! Very Nice!!! Looks like a fun piece, if it were mine I'd try to get the back end down some.. But it's not so enjoy it as you like...

Re: B body rear in an E body [Re: CJK440] #370288
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Nice wheels...what are they...Boyds" Smoothies?

I'm looking to do almost exactly what you've done...I was thinking of going with 20x10s in the rear and 18x8s in the front but am steering towards your set up after seeing your pictures.

Do you have any pics of the clearance space between the leafs and tires & tire to rear wheel well?

Thanks

Re: B body rear in an E body [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #370289
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Some great info here, and the car looks fantastic. I hope a mod will put this in the tech archives when it runs it's course

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