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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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Reading some of the more recent posts, I'm getting worried that when I get the last coat on (my '76 VW bus)and I'm ready to finish, I'm going to wetsand, and then the cheap buffer I have will not bring the shine back to even what I have from the final coat. What happens if I skip the last wetsand at 1500 or 2000 grit, and just use the polishing compound and the wax? Thanks
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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I purchased more sandpaper and a gallon of 100% mineral spirits (going to take the other stuff back tomorrow)
As for repairing, should I bondo over that dent in the drivers side door? I have limited experience using bondo, but I figure using it on a fist-sized area that's going to get painted anyway is the best way to learn.
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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The brightside paint I purcased is pre thinned and can be rolled on right out of the can ,if i was going that route I would have thinned it a bit more maybe 5%.The tremclad test panel did is 75% tremclad 25 % mineral spirits with a couple of ounces of penitrol.
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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ive got it to look not too bad, but when you look at it straight on, into the light thats bouncing off it, it looks preety bad.
maybe part of my problem is the bonnet im using... i have no cluse what it is, it came with the buffer.
what do you mean using water to buff? the instructions i read said to just have the surface dry..
heres my equipment... LOL
I'm using the exact same buffer, from princess auto, and i'm using the terry cloth bonnets that came with it, and you can buy replacments at canadian tire. The key is buff, buff, buff. How long did you spend on that hood for example? I could spend about 30-45mins on just the hood, lots of polishing coumpound, spray water from a water bottle (use quite a bit of water) and don't push on the buffer, let the buffer's own weight do the work for you, you can push just a bit, but don't stress the buffer by pushing too hard.
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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Hey all, I joined here to chat about this DIY paint job ...
...The paint I hope to use (Omni Blue Metallic):
Is this standard automotive paint? If so I see a couple issues. 1.) I don't think anyone here has tried that type of paint yet. No one has tested the self-leveling capabilities of such a paint. As well, you would have to make sure it is a single-stage automotive paint (i.e. NOT a base coat + clear coat system). Even with that, unless you add the catalyst (hardener) like you would when spraying, I'm not sure it would cure properly.
2.) Metallic paint. I don't know if anyone has tried a metallic, but the general thought is that the metallic particles will not say suspended properly as they would with spraying. As well, the wet sanding process will either be hindered by the metallic particles and/or grind them down.
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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What happens if I skip the last wetsand at 1500 or 2000 grit, and just use the polishing compound and the wax? Thanks
Refer back to page 18 of this thread... 69Chargeryeehaa didn't wetsand the Beetle's final coat and it looks awesome, even years later. If you use Tremclad/Rustoleum, you can pull this off.
Another option may be to rent a good quality polisher. My local equipment rental guy charges $15 per day.
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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I'm using the exact same buffer, from princess auto, and i'm using the terry cloth bonnets that came with it, and you can buy replacments at canadian tire. The key is buff, buff, buff. How long did you spend on that hood for example? I could spend about 30-45mins on just the hood, lots of polishing coumpound, spray water from a water bottle (use quite a bit of water) and don't push on the buffer, let the buffer's own weight do the work for you, you can push just a bit, but don't stress the buffer by pushing too hard.
thanks for the help. the buffer came with 2 different bonnets... one is a tighter woven one that uses a draw string to hold it on, the other is a tighter woven one that has an elastic to hold it on the buffer. I tired both and nither one stood out as being better for me.
ill try again with water today, and work it for alot longer. I was just using the compound and stopping once it got really dry and hard to work.
yesterday i sanded down the whole car... i figured my expectations would be less if i couldnt compare the buffed parts to the untouched parts (it had to be done this way, i had some dust and orange peel)
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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What happens if I skip the last wetsand at 1500 or 2000 grit, and just use the polishing compound and the wax? Thanks
Refer back to page 18 of this thread... 69Chargeryeehaa didn't wetsand the Beetle's final coat and it looks awesome, even years later. If you use Tremclad/Rustoleum, you can pull this off.
Another option may be to rent a good quality polisher. My local equipment rental guy charges $15 per day.
Good info. I had seen that but forgot (paint fumes, anyone?). Thanks
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Is this standard automotive paint? If so I see a couple issues. 1.) I don't think anyone here has tried that type of paint yet. No one has tested the self-leveling capabilities of such a paint. As well, you would have to make sure it is a single-stage automotive paint (i.e. NOT a base coat + clear coat system). Even with that, unless you add the catalyst (hardener) like you would when spraying, I'm not sure it would cure properly.
Yes, it is automotive paint. From what I can tell, it's just a single stage without extras (though I do plan on clearcoating it with a spray after the paint is done)
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2.) Metallic paint. I don't know if anyone has tried a metallic, but the general thought is that the metallic particles will not say suspended properly as they would with spraying. As well, the wet sanding process will either be hindered by the metallic particles and/or grind them down.
As long as the paint doesn't run I don't see why the particles would move around, and I don't think wetsanding would be impeded too much given how small these particles are, plus with how many coats I plan on putting on it should cover nicely. I guess I'll find out.
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Does anyone (Aussie Driver) know if there is anything on the market that is more aggressive than a cutting pad made for a Dual Action polisher such as the Porter Cable 7424?
Meaning do they sell any wool pads made to use on the 7424?
I know they have wool pads for rotary circular polishers, but what about for orbitals?
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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Is this standard automotive paint? If so I see a couple issues. 1.) I don't think anyone here has tried that type of paint yet. No one has tested the self-leveling capabilities of such a paint. As well, you would have to make sure it is a single-stage automotive paint (i.e. NOT a base coat + clear coat system). Even with that, unless you add the catalyst (hardener) like you would when spraying, I'm not sure it would cure properly.
Yes, it is automotive paint. From what I can tell, it's just a single stage without extras (though I do plan on clearcoating it with a spray after the paint is done)
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2.) Metallic paint. I don't know if anyone has tried a metallic, but the general thought is that the metallic particles will not say suspended properly as they would with spraying. As well, the wet sanding process will either be hindered by the metallic particles and/or grind them down.
As long as the paint doesn't run I don't see why the particles would move around, and I don't think wetsanding would be impeded too much given how small these particles are, plus with how many coats I plan on putting on it should cover nicely. I guess I'll find out.
You'll still need the catylist for the paint as well. That is what makes the paint harden as it dries. If you don't use that, the paint will remain soft and you'll never be able to sand or buff it.
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Does anyone (Aussie Driver) know if there is anything on the market that is more aggressive than a cutting pad made for a Dual Action polisher such as the Porter Cable 7424?
Meaning do they sell any wool pads made to use on the 7424?
I know they have wool pads for rotary circular polishers, but what about for orbitals?
I don't know of any wool pads for the RO polishers. But If you need that much cutting power then another option would be to sand some more with 2000 and then use the normal cutting pad/light cutting pad on the paint.
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