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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: Gusteve] #36614
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ya i think they are just held on by glue, hair dryer it is!

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #36615
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ya i think they are just held on by glue, hair dryer it is!



If the emblems are held on with trim tape(the grey foam stuff) a peice of fishing line works great to take them off without bending and breaking them. To remove the remaining foam and adhesive get a 3M eraser wheel from your local parts store that sells auto paint supplies. it's a rubber wheel that goes in a drill it takes off adhesives and vinyl stripes and graphics without harming the paint. My local Napa and Carquest both carry them. be wary if you us a heatgun, they get hotter than you might think and a lot of emblems on newer cars are chrome covered plastic and the will melt and bubble and seperate if you get them too hot.

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #36616
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Update:

Little over 3 months since I rolled the last coat, finaly had a good enough break rain we've had off and ever since. I took the oportunity to give the truck a good wash and new coat of wax. Still makes me smile to look at it knowing I did it with a roller


Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: Marq] #36617
06/07/07 06:22 AM
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Anyone who wishes to BS the process is either :

a ) works at a paint shop ( obvious vested interest and a hidden agenda behind their comments ) or...

b ) someone who has tons more money than most of us and who thinks nothing of tossing $2000 to $5000 at a paint shop to do the work for them.



These are the same type of people who say you can't solder two pieces of copper pipe together unless you're a union plumber. Baloney.

You might not want to paint a concours muscle car with a roller (although some of the results look darned close) but as others have already said, if you want to get decent looking paint job on the car so you can drive it, get rolling. Let the naysaying showboaters keep walking....

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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #36618
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That truck looks great!

What about blocking though? Does the multiple coats get rid of hi/lo issues that would be left to work with traditional build primer anyway? I'm concerned that one should be a lot more confident in the body work before laying this paint down, but, it's difficult to see the issues until you get a full coat on (which in this case is a few coats into the effort it seems).

As this stuff is performing the direct to metal job and eliminating epoxy or etch and build primer underneath, has anyone used a build primer in between coats to perfect things? Is this possible? I would think it would be easier to perfect things with improved "sandability". That's my main concern right there actually... I've not found this stuff to sand all that well. Am I not letting it dry long enough? Too thick?

I'm really still leaning towards spraying thin coats vs rolling and relying on the paint more for it's simplicity (no primer etc.), inexpensiveness, and workability rather than errr... rollability

Sorry for rambling...

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #36619
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Largo blue request:

http://novaslp.net/pics/car/img_0440.jpg

It's really light though it looks darker then it is in that picture...

The real light part in this picture is what it really looks like.
http://novaslp.net/pics/car/img_0431.jpg

I have sapphire blue on the mirrors and I'm rolling it later this weekend on the whole car. I'll take pictures as soon as I can for you. It's a really pretty deep blue color.

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #36620
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FYI I disassembled the car and the paint was fine under everything but the spoiler. When I took the spoiler up it had little blisters in... I popped them and it seemed like air underneath? I'm thinking that I just put the spoiler on way too soon and maybe the last coat of paint wasn't fully cured yet. Either way no rust or anything.

Wet-sanding 400 grit the entire car takes forever! I had so much peel the last time.

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: plum500] #36621
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I'm a regular over earlycj5.com, and one of the guys over there painted his Jeep CJ with Rustoleum spray cans, and Rustoleum clear (rattle can). It came out really nice...
Check it out:
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http://www.earlycj5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42745

Here's the finished product:



It came out great, but man you need a lot of rattle cans.

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #36622
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A few months ago I lucked on to a '65 CJ5 with only 20,650 orig. miles. It had been sitting for 12 years while the orig. owner's grandson served in the Marines so after a major brake overhaul and new fluids I got it back on the road. Trouble was the grandson sprayed black and grey primer over the orig. paint to hold back the surface rust. After spending so much to get it road worthy I couldn't justify $3500 for a paint job. You know the rest of the story. Major thanks to 69chargeryeehaa! Here are some before, during, and after pics.

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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #36623
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That was the finished pic. Here's a during.

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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #36624
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And a before.

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #36625
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I used less than one qt. of Rustoleum Stops Rust Canvas white thinned 40%, 4 high density foam rollers, a little bit of sand paper, and about a third of a gal. of Ace 100% mineral spirits. Bought a Ryobi 6" buffer from Home Depot for $20 and a tin of Turtle polishing compound that I haven't used yet! It's already shiny enough for an old Jeep. Man, I'm stoked. Now looking for a mid 60s Valiant coupe to continue the fun.

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #36626
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Love the LUV!

My son has an '80 2wd LUV that's a real piece of ... uh ... work. It saw horrendous abuse and neglect from previous owners. The body is shot - huge rustouts, mega dents, nasty. Even Rustoleum won't help!

It's good to see one looking as good as yours!

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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: slantvaliant] #36627
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Hi, I am new to the board and was linked to this thread specifically from a bicycling message board. I've become interested in painting a nice bicycle frame that I have on the cheap and this method sounds like it will fit the bill, I just have a couple of questions:

1) Do I take all the paint off of the bicycle frame so it is bare metal showing and then prime it? Or would it be better to just sand it down a fair bit and leave some of the old paint for the new paint to cling on to?

2) If I want a glossy black or orange, what would be the best mix of mineral spirits to Tremclad to use?

Thanks guys, this thread is fascinating!

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: slantvaliant] #36628
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Love the LUV!

My son has an '80 2wd LUV that's a real piece of ... uh ... work. It saw horrendous abuse and neglect from previous owners. The body is shot - huge rustouts, mega dents, nasty. Even Rustoleum won't help!

It's good to see one looking as good as yours!




Thanks man!
Love this truck, told my wife she may have to bury me in it when the time comes.

There's still a few of them around, guy here in town has one that he races, V8, nitrous the works, trying to talk him into rolling his.

Getting harder to find parts and upgrades I had a '77 LUV back in High School, couldn't throw a rock without hittin one back then. But there is a cool sight he may want to visit, devoted to the Chevy LUV www.luvtruck.com My nick over there is 79-LUV'r.

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #36629
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And a before.




Wish my '55 looked that good to start with . Really a nice looking rig. I'm guessing early '60s? And am I crazy, or does it have a full float conversion on the rear axle? Can't tell from the pics if it's got lockouts or if it's just the hubcaps...

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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #36630
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i did my integra with about 3 quarts of brightside




So I am going to the boat shop tomorrow and I figure I am going to try 1 quart of Brightside black to finish my car.

Car is a 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback, pretty small vehicle. Original car is black, some spots are primered or has putty.

You think I can pull it off with mineral spirits mixed with it?

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There's still a few of them around, guy here in town has one that he races, V8, nitrous the works, trying to talk him into rolling his.





Was he on Pinks? I saw a LUV that really moved out on the Pinks All Out in Dallas.

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Toolbox, It's a 1965 3-spd and thanks. I like it a lot. It does have locking hubs/full floating conversion in back and let me tell you it was a bear getting the right axle seals and inner bearing/hub seals. I can't say enough good things about the local NAPA parts store and one guy in particular who welcomed the challenge.

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1) Do I take all the paint off of the bicycle frame so it is bare metal showing and then prime it?




No. Only take it down to metal if you have weld or fill.

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Or would it be better to just sand it down a fair bit and leave some of the old paint for the new paint to cling on to?




Not even that much. Clean it, remove the dead surface, then scuff the rest for adhesion.

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