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Need .010 under T-chain #360849
06/28/09 07:23 PM
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Anyone know where to get .010 under T-chain for a 440? Preferably with a 9 way crank gear.


PSO headed 632 from MM. Cracked cylinder, loose valve seats, low oil pressure, low cylinder pressure.
..... Now its a door stop....
Re: Need .010 under T-chain [Re: steve660] #360850
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Cloyes has a 10 under timming chain, I just received mine last week. They are special order so you will have to wait awhile.

9-1104 Street True® Roller Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
3 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
w/Single Bolt Cam

9-1104 Street True® Roller Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
3 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
w/Single Bolt Cam

9-1125 Street True® Roller Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
3 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
w/3 Bolt Cam

9-1125 Street True® Roller Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
3 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
w/3 Bolt Cam

9-3104 Original True® Roller Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
3 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
w/Single Bolt Cam
Standard Center Distance

9-3104 Original True® Roller Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
3 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
w/Single Bolt Cam
Standard Center Distance

9-3104-10 Original True® Roller Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
3 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
w/Single Bolt Cam
.010 in. Reduced Center Distance

9-3104-10 Original True® Roller Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
3 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
w/Single Bolt Cam
.010 in. Reduced Center Distance

9-3104-5 Original True® Roller Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
3 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
w/Single Bolt Cam
.005 in. Reduced Center Distance

9-3104-5 Original True® Roller Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
3 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
w/Single Bolt Cam
.005 in. Reduced Center Distance

9-3125 Original True® Roller Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
3 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
w/3 Bolt Cam
Standard Center Distance

9-3125 Original True® Roller Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
3 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
w/3 Bolt Cam
Standard Center Distance

9-3125-10 Original True® Roller Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
3 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
w/3 Bolt Cam
.010 in. Reduced Center Distance

9-3125-10 Original True® Roller Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
3 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
w/3 Bolt Cam
.010 in. Reduced Center Distance

9-3125-5 Original True® Roller Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
3 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
w/3 Bolt Cam
.005 in. Reduced Center Distance

9-3125-5 Original True® Roller Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
3 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
w/3 Bolt Cam
.005 in. Reduced Center Distance

9-3125A Hex-A-Just® True® Roller Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
3 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
w/3 Bolt Cam
Needle Bearing
w/3 Bolt Cam
Standard Center Distance

9-3125A Hex-A-Just® True® Roller Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
3 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
w/3 Bolt Cam
Needle Bearing
w/3 Bolt Cam
Standard Center Distance

9-3125A-10 Hex-A-Just® True® Roller Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
3 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
w/3 Bolt Cam
Needle Bearing
w/3 Bolt Cam
.010 in. Reduced Center Distance

9-3125A-10 Hex-A-Just® True® Roller Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
3 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
w/3 Bolt Cam
Needle Bearing
w/3 Bolt Cam
.010 in. Reduced Center Distance

9-3125A-5 Hex-A-Just® True® Roller Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
3 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
w/3 Bolt Cam
Needle Bearing
w/3 Bolt Cam
.005 in. Reduced Center Distance

9-3125A-5 Hex-A-Just® True® Roller Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
3 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
w/3 Bolt Cam
Needle Bearing
w/3 Bolt Cam
.005 in. Reduced Center Distance

9-3504X9 Billet True® Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
9 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain

9-3504X9 Billet True® Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
9 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain

9-3525TX9 Billet True® Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
9 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
For Use w/3 Bolt Cam
Captured Needle Bearing

9-3525TX9 Billet True® Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
9 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
For Use w/3 Bolt Cam
Captured Needle Bearing

9-3604X9 Premium Billet True® Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
9 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain w/0.25 Rollers
w/1 Bolt Cam

9-3604X9 Premium Billet True® Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
9 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain w/0.25 Rollers
w/1 Bolt Cam

9-3625TX9 Premium Billet True® Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
9 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
Captured Needle Bearing
3 Bolt Cam

9-3625TX9 Premium Billet True® Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
9 Keyway Crank Sprocket
Roller Chain
Captured Needle Bearing
3 Bolt Cam

C-3044 Heavy Duty Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
Crank Sprocket
Double Roller Chain
w/Single Bolt Cam

C-3044 Heavy Duty Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
Crank Sprocket
Double Roller Chain
w/Single Bolt Cam

C-3045 Heavy Duty Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
Crank Sprocket
Double Roller Chain
w/3 Bolt Cam

C-3045 Heavy Duty Timing Set
Incl. Cam Sprocket
Crank Sprocket
Double Roller Chain
w/3 Bolt Cam

Re: Need .010 under T-chain [Re: GLR] #360851
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Rollmaster used to have undersize timing sets.

Re: Need .010 under T-chain [Re: abodyman] #360852
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Any idea where to get a Rollmaster chain??


PSO headed 632 from MM. Cracked cylinder, loose valve seats, low oil pressure, low cylinder pressure.
..... Now its a door stop....
Re: Need .010 under T-chain [Re: steve660] #360853
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Sorry...No I don't ...other than contacting Wayne Brewer (guy who sells 4-speed transmission parts in Ohio) He sold me a used std. Roll master timming chain and gear set.

Re: Need .010 under T-chain [Re: GLR] #360854
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I got a 10 under Cloyes through an engine shop. It got the chain "just right" on my line bored steel capped block.

Re: Need .010 under T-chain [Re: steve660] #360855
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Any idea where to get a Rollmaster chain??




Are they from OZ?


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Re: Need .010 under T-chain [Re: Rug_Trucker] #360856
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Yeah from the land of Oz
I see Muscle Motors no longer has them?

Re: Need .010 under T-chain [Re: GLR] #360857
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I know that this sounds dumb, but is there an easy way to tell which (.005 or .010) reduced distance is needed? The new stock length chain is way loose and I know that the engine was line bored but no longer have the paperwork.


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Re: Need .010 under T-chain [Re: rbstroker] #360858
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Is the chain shorter or are the gears larger in diameter?

Re: Need .010 under T-chain [Re: steve660] #360859
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Any idea where to get a Rollmaster chain??


Dave Hughes used to be a fan of them. Shorter links I believe. www.hughesengines.com


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Re: Need .010 under T-chain [Re: steve660] #360860
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I've never heard of a .010 under timing chain. Please school me on what this is and why you need it for my future referance. Thanks

Re: Need .010 under T-chain [Re: JoesMopar] #360861
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Not an expert on this but if you line BORE (not hone) the mains on your block because you have missmatched main caps or new main caps, the boring changes where the center line of the crank rides in relation to your deck height. Therefore the distance between the center line of you crank is closer to the center line of you cam, therefore a standard length timing chain will be loose.

That's muy understanding

Frank


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Re: Need .010 under T-chain [Re: Chi_Town_Runner] #360862
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Cool, thanks. I never knew that but makes perfect sense.

Re: Need .010 under T-chain [Re: Snoopy] #360863
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Is the chain shorter or are the gears larger in diameter?




Gears larger, chain stock is standardized AFAIK.

Re: Need .010 under T-chain [Re: CokeBottleKid] #360864
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Gears larger, chain stock is standardized AFAIK.


got it . that would make more sense than having oddball chain sizes which would probably require smaller(spaced) gear teeth to match it.


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Re: Need .010 under T-chain [Re: RapidRobert] #360865
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How about just using a Mopar chain tensioner? Used from the factory for V6 & Magnum's.


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Re: Need .010 under T-chain [Re: express] #360866
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How about just using a Mopar chain tensioner? Used from the factory for V6 & Magnum's.




Not on a 440


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Re: Need .010 under T-chain [Re: rbstroker] #360867
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Quote:

I know that this sounds dumb, but is there an easy way to tell which (.005 or .010) reduced distance is needed? The new stock length chain is way loose and I know that the engine was line bored but no longer have the paperwork.




Cloyes has the center distance spec. listed in their catalogue. Measure across the crank and cam noses (or between them) and do the math.

Randy

Re: Need .010 under T-chain [Re: GLR] #360868
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Anybody try 440 source part yet?

http://store.440source.com/Dual-Idler-Gear-Drive-New/productinfo/113-1013/

I assume that it is Chinese based on the price.


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