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Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND R
[Re: Alaskan_TA]
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06/18/09 11:17 PM
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The Warfels from Florida.........These guys have had lot's of rare mopar parts and cars over the years and know as much or more about them as anybody else. They flat out screwed Domingo on the air cleaner and should refund every penny involved including all freight, customs charges etc. Maybe they get a discount on the re-pop air cleaners and they probably make money selling them on e-bay and where ever. They know what the things are and if someone wants a refund because they scammed them then they should do it promptly. No excuses or B.S. about it.
Most people ignore their ads on e-bay but some don't.
Al & Sheila
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Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND R
[Re: Alaskan_TA]
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06/19/09 11:02 AM
06/19/09 11:02 AM
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I printed it out in case they try & sue anyone.
Anyone want scans? 
I also forwarded it to the IAATI & NICB the first day it was listed. 
Barry do these agency's take any action? I'm wondering if you do this for similar listings - I'm thinking of the Canadian seller who always is selling tags or sheets...........
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Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO
[Re: AZ_A12_BEE]
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06/19/09 12:23 PM
06/19/09 12:23 PM
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Well, talked to Dana and even though he is not refunding the cash he is going to throw some extra stuff on the 440 to make it more complete (complete head bolts, intake boltd, oil pan and whatever odds and ends he can he said), plus he is giving me an original 1970 HP 440 cast iron intake in compensation. He says the 440 looks OK with std bore and minimal ridge, crank looks ok, no pitting on the hp exhaust manifolds, 23 spline tranmission is a good used unit, etc. I told him all this stuff is coming to Peru so even if they are not new, they have to be good used parts....he is getting everything ready. Ill post when I get all the stuff. 
Domingo
WOW , he's GIVING you an original cast iron intake , what a guy  , he's GIVING you an intake he's probably been trying to sell for years that's worth maybe 50 bucks ... I'm being generous ... D , he is TAKING ADVANTAGE of you , just like he does everyone else , because you are thousands of miles away .
Maybe these guys went to the Frank Mitchell Charm School
Then they would have charged him $1600 instead $1000. 
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Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO
[Re: domingo]
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06/19/09 12:49 PM
06/19/09 12:49 PM
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OK guys.....this is the pic they sent me when I was buying the air cleaner. Looks pretty original doesnt it??? Now, just before they sent it they said it had been repainted. When I get it turns out it was a BRAND NEW repro from Ben Snobar (which is great quality -dont get me wrong-) its just not what I wanted to purchase...I wanted an original part....And I was charged dearly for it... Do you guys think they actually repainted it b4 shipping it to me???    
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Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND R
[Re: ErikR]
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06/19/09 12:50 PM
06/19/09 12:50 PM
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I printed it out in case they try & sue anyone.
Anyone want scans?
I also forwarded it to the IAATI & NICB the first day it was listed.
Barry do these agency's take any action? I'm wondering if you do this for similar listings - I'm thinking of the Canadian seller who always is selling tags or sheets...........
I'd guess they keep the # on file in case they ever run across a car with that #, so that they'll know to investigate further.
Just a guess.
Tav
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Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO
[Re: domingo]
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06/19/09 01:03 PM
06/19/09 01:03 PM
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OK guys.....this is the pic they sent me when I was buying the air cleaner.
Looks pretty original doesnt it???
[image]https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload2/5302693-taaircleaner..bmp[/image]
Now, just before they sent it they said it had been repainted.
When I get it turns out it was a brand new repro from Ben Snobar (which is great quality -dont get me wrong-) its just not what I wanted to purchase...I wanted an original part.
Do you guys think they actually repainted it b4 shipping it to me???
WOW! that's like a flashback. I think that's the same pic they used on my auction 4 years ago. Must be a stock photo for them.
They said in my auction that it was a before pic and that it had been restored now. When I got it, if you looked closely at the lid, you could see marks on the surface where it looked like it had been in a plastic bag for a while. Sometimes you'll see marks like that on new parts that are stored in plastic bags with a little oil or something to keep rust at bay. The lid wasn't in a plastic bag when they sent it to me though. Looked like it was a new part that they took out of the package and mailed to me. That was the first thing that made me wonder if they had lied to me.
Tav
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Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO
[Re: domingo]
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06/19/09 01:17 PM
06/19/09 01:17 PM
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OK guys.....this is the pic they sent me when I was buying the air cleaner.
Looks pretty original doesnt it???
Now, just before they sent it they said it had been repainted.
When I get it turns out it was a BRAND NEW repro from Ben Snobar (which is great quality -dont get me wrong-) its just not what I wanted to purchase...I wanted an original part....And I was charged dearly for it...
Do you guys think they actually repainted it b4 shipping it to me???
No , it comes from Snobar painted , is that the top you got , the one in the picture ?
They may have learned listing tactics on this from Snobar , he was passing of his REPOP A12 air cleaners as ORIGINAL RESTORED before they cat got let out of the bag .
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Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO
[Re: mccannix]
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06/19/09 03:30 PM
06/19/09 03:30 PM
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I highly doubt that is the top you got.
Pictured is likely the repro base and a used lid with their crooked decals.
Then when you get everything the lid is a new repro as well as the base, both supposedly repainted.
I guess you could drop the 'c' in decals and still use the same phrase above
Thats funny!!!!!!
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Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND R
[Re: ErikR]
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06/19/09 07:33 PM
06/19/09 07:33 PM
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I printed it out in case they try & sue anyone.
Anyone want scans?
I also forwarded it to the IAATI & NICB the first day it was listed.
Barry do these agency's take any action? I'm wondering if you do this for similar listings - I'm thinking of the Canadian seller who always is selling tags or sheets...........
Erik,
I do. Quebec has VERY lax laws on this though. I still keep the agencies informed. In some cases, they can actually block the VIN from ever being registered or insured inside the US. 
Barry
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Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND R
[Re: Alaskan_TA]
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06/19/09 09:19 PM
06/19/09 09:19 PM
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So let me get this straight. These guys continually fleece the Mopar market and continue to be allowed to post on Moparts, while others who add a lot of value to the hobby and share good data get banned?
Does anyone else think that's a bit odd?
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Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND R
[Re: JohnRR]
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06/20/09 01:20 PM
06/20/09 01:20 PM
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So let me get this straight. These guys continually fleece the Mopar market and continue to be allowed to post on Moparts, while others who add a lot of value to the hobby and share good data get banned?
Does anyone else think that's a bit odd?
since they aren't a paying sponsor that explains why this thread is still running ...
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Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO
[Re: Triggerfish]
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06/20/09 01:57 PM
06/20/09 01:57 PM
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here's the lid. Someone must've cut out a piece of the lip to clear an ac compressor.
Triggerfish, that lid has been cut to clear the wiper motor on an A-body.
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Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO
[Re: 69_SIX_PACK]
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06/20/09 08:11 PM
06/20/09 08:11 PM
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Funny how you can get caught misrepresenting something and then call yourself the victim.
I would never buy something from someone who uses deception to sell.
Dave
 it's funny how the guy who gets screwed is always made out to be the "bad guy". You'll find them everywhere. Key is LEARN from it and move on.. 
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Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO
[Re: QuickBpBp]
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06/20/09 08:23 PM
06/20/09 08:23 PM
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Before saying anything, I want to state that this is my last post on this thread. This is the last email I received from Dana today after a couple days of silence. I can't believe the way the guy goes back and forth on what he says. I thought he said he never wanted me to contact him ever again??? Needless to say, I didnt reply. I AM THE ONE THAT DOESNT WANT TO CONTACT HIM EVER AGAIN. Not worth my time. I don't want to deal with them EVER again. Not even for trying to get my money back...Im done with them. Funny how he is all nice and willing to help now, after he was threatening with suing me a couple days ago. Guess somebody realized he screwed up big time, now that everybody know whats their way of dealing with customers. And please take note that I'm not the only one who has had unpleaseant buying experiences with G&D. The posts from other members preceding this one speak for themselves. Quote:
Domingo,
I have been trying to resolve this from the start and still want to resolve it,when you told me on the phone that you were not 100% happy I offered you a refund and that offer still stands,What can we do as I want to know.If you want to keep the air cleaner what can we do.I wanted you happy from the start and I want you happy today. Dana
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