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Well, talked to Dana and even though he is not refunding the cash he is going to throw some extra stuff on the 440 to make it more complete (complete head bolts, intake boltd, oil pan and whatever odds and ends he can he said), plus he is giving me an original 1970 HP 440 cast iron intake in compensation. He says the 440 looks OK with std bore and minimal ridge, crank looks ok, no pitting on the hp exhaust manifolds, 23 spline tranmission is a good used unit, etc. I told him all this stuff is coming to Peru so even if they are not new, they have to be good used parts....he is getting everything ready. Ill post when I get all the stuff.

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Wow so he is throwin some bolts and an intake he probably couldn't give away let alone get $200 for..Great guy. I Don't think he is making it right and more than likely the block looks good to the naked eye wait till it's magged...He'll probably have to send a coil bracket then to match the Intake to make it right for the cracked block...I wouldn't be so naive about no-one knowing that was a repo....

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from Domingo Cicirello <domingo426@gmail.com>
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date Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 1:01 PM
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Dana,

I see you refunded the Pay Pal payment. Thanks.

I didnt want a full refund on the part because it was already in Peru with me, shipping it back would have only cost me even more money. I will find a use for this overpriced and incomplete reproduction, just not on my original TA or AAR.

What would have worked out for me was a refund of the excess I was charged for the part, I suggested it, but you didnt agree to that.

This is just to clear things up, I don't want, nor have the time to keep on going with this.

This is my last email as the issue has been resolved.

Best Regards,

Domingo Cicirello
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On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:37 PM, floridaguyone <floridaguyone@yahoo.com> wrote:

We are finished.I have a list of mopar dealers a mile long that say your nuts and I see that.I will pay pal you back on the engine at this moment.I offered you a refund on the air cleaner and you refused,I'm not sure what your deal is but I want no part of it.Please don't ever call or contact me again.We are done. Dana









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From: Domingo Cicirello <domingo426@gmail.com>
Subject: Re:
To: "floridaguyone" <floridaguyone@yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 10:59 AM

You know Dana...

We were discussing last night about all this whole deal, and then I get an email from you at 7am stating that I need to pay the balance for the order.

Now I get this email at 8am stating that you took the parts to the machine shop and had everything checked, and you are saying that one of the cylinders has a pit and that it has no cracks, etc. And that you are documenting eveything with this order. There would have been no time for you to haul all the stuff to that machine shop you are talking about, and to have everything checked properly -the way a reputable machine shop would do it-....even more, this is when you said you had almost everything wrapped up and ready to go. No machine shops work at night and most machine shops will open their doors at 8am or 9am aproximately. There would have been no time to do all of this and then get back to me via email.

You know what, I have decided I dont want to proceed with the purchase because it's not going as smoothly as I would have like it to go and I'm not happy about how things are being handled by you and your company -starting with the TA air cleaner deal, and now with this 440 engine purchase-

I am willing give you a chance to make up for the price difference on the TA air cleaner you sold me -without knowing it was a reproduction- on a future order, when the waters are calm again. Thats of course if you are willing to do it, because that is really just up to you.

Please I'd like to see the $600 reimbursed into my pay pal account today at the latest. If not I'd like our lawyer's to get in contact so they can solve this matter. I really don't have the time to keep going on this matter. I'll let our company's lawyer buffet handle the situation.

Hope we can work again in the future.

Best regards.

Domingo Cicirello

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:01 AM, floridaguyone <floridaguyone@yahoo.com> wrote:

We did take all the parts to the machine shop and had them checked,and they did notice a very tiny pit in one cylinder,its past piston travel,and they did assure me the block would need bored as we talked on the phone and there were no cracks,I am documenting everything with this order,pictures will also be taken with items straped on the pallet. Dana








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From: Domingo Cicirello <domingo426@gmail.com>
Subject: Re:
To: "floridaguyone" <floridaguyone@yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 2:04 AM

Dana,

I am sorry but I won't do that.

I only want to know if you want to go ahead with the ongoing 440 engine deal or not.

If you do, please let me know and I will send the $625 balance due tomorrow via western union.

If not, please reinburse the $600 I sent you via Pay Pal.

Best Regards,

Domingo Cicirello


On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:42 AM, floridaguyone <floridaguyone@yahoo.com> wrote:

I am also a member and you started the thread and you will need to end it.I will not do anything else until that is taken care of,and no future threads will be started,you need to agree with that.I am not here to play games Domingo I am here to run my company.Please do what I have ask and everything will be fine.I know if I was unhappy with one of your products I would not run and start a post I would be a man about it and deal with you directly.I want both of us happy,so again please stop the thread and and have the moderator remove it. Thanks,Dana





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From: Domingo Cicirello <domingo426@gmail.com>
Subject: Re:
To: "floridaguyone" <floridaguyone@yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 12:47 AM

Dana,

If you think your best next move is to sue me, then just go ahead, but please don't threaten me, there is no need for it as in I havent done anything wrong.

If you want this thread cancelled

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...0&fpart=all

please contact that website (www.moparts.com) administrator. I do not manage that website, I'm just a regular user. I have no control, and no particular influence or bond with the website or their ownvers/aministrators other than being a regular user.

I have all recorded back and foth emailing between me and you/Amanda on the TA air cleaner deal and the ongoing 440 deal. Those are the FACTS that match exactly what I have stated on the forementioned moparts thread.

I'm calling my IT guy to capture that thread that's on moparts right now and certify it in case it gets erased from that website. I'ts being saved right now as I type.

I have all receipts made for payments to you recorded on Pay Pal for delievered, and also, yet underlivered merchandise.

Also, I'd like to continue with the ongoing 440 purchase, if you are also willing to continue with it, of course. I do plan on posting about my experience after the deal is finished and I receive the parts. I think it would be postive for you, as it would help shut the mouth of everyone that made negative comments about G&D on that thread.

If you dont want to proceed with the purchase please I'd like to see the $600 payment I did on Pay Pal be refunded. Please get back to me ASAP on this subject.

Best Regards,

Domingo Cicirello

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:06 PM, floridaguyone <floridaguyone@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi,
I just got off the phone with my lawyer and he said you need to have the website stop and delete the thread.If you do not do that I will need your address so that I can file charges against you for this.I've sued for slander in the past and won and I will do it again.Please contact me asap on this matter. Thanks,Dana

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Well, talked to Dana and even though he is not refunding the cash he is going to throw some extra stuff on the 440 to make it more complete (complete head bolts, intake boltd, oil pan and whatever odds and ends he can he said), plus he is giving me an original 1970 HP 440 cast iron intake in compensation. He says the 440 looks OK with std bore and minimal ridge, crank looks ok, no pitting on the hp exhaust manifolds, 23 spline tranmission is a good used unit, etc. I told him all this stuff is coming to Peru so even if they are not new, they have to be good used parts....he is getting everything ready. Ill post when I get all the stuff.

Domingo

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WOW , he's GIVING you an original cast iron intake , what a guy , he's GIVING you an intake he's probably been trying to sell for years that's worth maybe 50 bucks ... I'm being generous ... D , he is TAKING ADVANTAGE of you , just like he does everyone else , because you are thousands of miles away .

edit .... didn't read down seeing what happened next ... D you are LUCKY he refuned the 600 , I was expecting to see he was going to keep it to pay the machine shop for doing all the checking of that block overnight ..

I'll say this your a freaking IDIOT if you ever buy anything from them after all this .

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Well, talked to Dana and even though he is not refunding the cash he is going to throw some extra stuff on the 440 to make it more complete (complete head bolts, intake boltd, oil pan and whatever odds and ends he can he said), plus he is giving me an original 1970 HP 440 cast iron intake in compensation. He says the 440 looks OK with std bore and minimal ridge, crank looks ok, no pitting on the hp exhaust manifolds, 23 spline tranmission is a good used unit, etc. I told him all this stuff is coming to Peru so even if they are not new, they have to be good used parts....he is getting everything ready. Ill post when I get all the stuff.

Domingo

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WOW , he's GIVING you an original cast iron intake , what a guy , he's GIVING you an intake he's probably been trying to sell for years that's worth maybe 50 bucks ... I'm being generous ... D , he is TAKING ADVANTAGE of you , just like he does everyone else , because you are thousands of miles away .

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Well, talked to Dana and even though he is not refunding the cash he is going to throw some extra stuff on the 440 to make it more complete (complete head bolts, intake boltd, oil pan and whatever odds and ends he can he said), plus he is giving me an original 1970 HP 440 cast iron intake in compensation. He says the 440 looks OK with std bore and minimal ridge, crank looks ok, no pitting on the hp exhaust manifolds, 23 spline tranmission is a good used unit, etc. I told him all this stuff is coming to Peru so even if they are not new, they have to be good used parts....he is getting everything ready. Ill post when I get all the stuff.

Domingo

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WOW , he's GIVING you an original cast iron intake , what a guy , he's GIVING you an intake he's probably been trying to sell for years that's worth maybe 50 bucks ... I'm being generous ... D , he is TAKING ADVANTAGE of you , just like he does everyone else , because you are thousands of miles away .

edit .... didn't read down seeing what happened next ... D you are LUCKY he refuned the 600 , I was expecting to see he was going to keep it to pay the machine shop for doing all the checking of that block overnight ..

I'll say this your a freaking IDIOT if you ever buy anything from them after all this .

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They are sneaky with all their descriptions. I called them on hemi pulleys. I asked them if they were real. They replied...Well, they look real to me. They were re-pops. Weasels.

Gouge and Deceive

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I bought my air cleaner from them about 4 years ago I think, around when snobar first came out with them. G&D has been doing this WAY to long for it to be a mistake. They always seem to have one of those air cleaners listed on Ebay. Their constant supply of these would indicate they're getting them directly from Ben Snobar and reselling them, which would mean that G&D IS aware they're selling repos. Here's another one now...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/340-SIX-P...sQ5fAccessories

Note that the condition is listed as USED!

Sometimes I run across their auctions while looking for other parts on Ebay. Repro parts are often listed as restored original or NOS. The real parts that they have are often in poor shape with the description ramped up to make the part sound better.

Tav

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They have a VIN tag for sale on Ebay right now if you want to report them to the Feds;

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/71-BARRAC...A1%7C240%3A1318

Hard to sue anyone from prison.

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That auction didn't last long.