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Re: Beware of the knock offs [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #3227517
04/16/24 04:51 PM
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Summit still shows over 1400 speed master products currently. Speed master shows that VB on there site but without the guys name on it.

SOS.

And folks are upset over a valve body? We cant even protect our own state secrets.


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Re: Beware of the knock offs [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #3227537
04/16/24 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr PotatoHead
Summit still shows over 1400 speed master products currently. Speed master shows that VB on there site but without the guys name on it.

SOS.

And folks are upset over a valve body? We cant even protect our own state secrets.


Digital technology has made it possible to recreate old parts and make quick prototypes, but it also allows plagiarizers to copy designs and measurements from as little as a picture. Summit knows if they don't sell it, the people in that price range will just go to ebay or amazon to get it, so they're almost forced to carry it to appeal to all shoppers. The only punishment the public has, is not to buy it.

Re: Beware of the knock offs [Re: Uberpube] #3227565
04/16/24 07:59 PM
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We have a couple of large speedshops in Australia, one if more on the wholesale side of things, the other predominantly retail. Both carry their own brand of products, all parts are made in China. Most are copies of other companies parts. One brand went as far as copying the part number as well on some parts. Prices aren't much cheaper. It's corperate greed and nothing more, capitolism/consumerism at it's finest. I won't buy from either company.

In regards to the defense side of things, I work in additive manufacturing research, we work with Defense based contractors and government agencies etc. The theft of defense systems by the Chinese is of great concern at the moment. We see it also in many areas of research as well, it's gone as far as academic and research staff working for a local university, but also working for the Chinese government and then sending secrets back.

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Re: Beware of the knock offs [Re: LA360] #3227670
04/17/24 11:28 AM
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/sarcasm

Why should Speedmaster, Summit or any entity in the United States make 50 cents if it comes out of your pocket?
Buy direct from Ximeng, cut out the middleman!

Speedmaster is too expensive!
When you buy Speedmaster, you're only paying for a name!

/sarcasm

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/_1600966307594.html?spm=a2700.7724857.0.0.551269eb1yjRLe


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Re: Beware of the knock offs [Re: ZIPPY] #3227691
04/17/24 12:30 PM
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/ sarcasm

But the shipping is a killer.....
Who wants to set up a group buy?

Shipping
From
$231.92
Shipping Time 15-25 days
To United States of America by Ocean+Express US (Premium)

There really does need to be a sarcasm font

Re: Beware of the knock offs [Re: BDW] #3227723
04/17/24 03:06 PM
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There are many companies flipping the alibaba junk. Look up Al rads. Fuel Cells and others. The China Ebay sellers beat speed masters cost by a lot. Classic Industries sells the china AL radiators that are $150 on ebay and poof $600 from CI.

Self created but encouraged and its all about money.




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Re: Beware of the knock offs [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #3227769
04/17/24 08:13 PM
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Here you go.

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Re: Beware of the knock offs [Re: pittsburghracer] #3227795
04/17/24 10:55 PM
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Wow..

As a (too) frequent Summit shopper, I'm impressed.

Re: Beware of the knock offs [Re: Uberpube] #3227831
04/18/24 07:41 AM
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great job summit,if more would do the same to knockoffs.

Last edited by GarageDodge; 04/18/24 07:42 AM.
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