How would YOU order a new Mopar?
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In the GYC discussion, it was brought up that Mark Worman, is building a clone to his original 1970 Dodge Charger. On the show, Mark also talked about adding some factory options to the car, because he can. This is similar to how I am rebuilding MY first car, a 1969 Sport Satellite. I want to build it as if i was to walk into a dealership in late 1968-early 1969, and sit down, and order the car how I wanted. Yeah we all would love to order that One of One HEMI car, but I'm talking something the was realistic in the day. Remember most young people back then, made around $1.25 an hour, and while that HEMI option might seem cheap now, but it sure wasn't then. Plus add in insurance costs, and you see why so many of these cars were littering the for sale ads a few months after being bought new.
Here is how I would have ordered mine, and building today:
1969 Plymouth Sport Satellite
383 4 Bbl Super Commando
4 speed
B7 Blue with Black interior (although Pewter interior has crossed my mind)
Center console
Interior light package
Tachometer
AM 8 track stereo
3.23 Sure Grip rear
Disc Brakes
Tinted glass
3 speed wipers
I'd get the basic wheels, ONLY because I'd be installing new Keystone Kustomags mags the day it was delivered.
So, how would YOU order your new Mopar???
69 GTX
68 Road Runner
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Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar?
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How I would order a Mopar Back In The Day: 1969 RM23 Road Runner Hardtop 383, 4bbl, 335 HP RR engine F5 Limelight Poly GREENBlack (Bucket Seat) Interior (C65) Bucket Seats with Console C16 Console V21 Performance Hood Stripes 727 TorqueFlite A31 High Performance Axle Package 3.91 rear A01 light package N96 Air Grabber (requires 3-speed wiper *B41/B51 Power Disc Brakes *G11 All Tinted Windows R11 Solid State AM Radio (Add higher quality aftermarket 8-Track and FM receiver hidden in glovebox ) G33 Mirror: Remote Control Left Outside *G31 Manual-Right Outside (Mirror) S77 Power Steering *N85 Tachometer T85 F-70/14 Red Fiberglass Belted Funny thing, I did sit down at the hometown Plymouth dealership "Back In The Day" in early spring of 1969 and order this RM23 Road Runner. Everything on the list except for the four *asterisk* items that looking back wished I would have added. Re-thinking I would now probable ordered a passenger's side outside rearview mirror. BTW speaking of GYC this was pretty close to what Mark and the Mopar Dealer Don Jones sat down and spec'd out for his A4 Road Runner in the episode "Jonesing for a Road Runner" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CsF3HpfIw4&t=344s
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Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar?
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71 Hemi Challenger R/T
N94 hood M51 Sunroof black top EV2 paint orange stripe Front and Rear rubber bumpers 4 speed 15x7 rallyes Orange cloth seat inserts No console Front and Rear spoilers louvers dual painted mirrors
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Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar?
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I've been fortunate to own a few '68-'69 Road Runners and at least one '68 Charger that were/are as I'd have ordered them:
Early '68 Hemi 4speed RR coupe in QQ1, no other options Later & currently same combo except 383, light group & AM radio I never listen to A couple other '69 RRs like a triple-green 383/4-speed HT with AC, & current Y2 Decor coupe, AG 383/4-speed The Q5/white bench 383 AG HT was a great combo, but was an AT car, or I'd have kept it... And my favorite of my 2nd-gen Chargers: red, white interior, 383/4-speed w/AC There have been many others that weren't necessarily what I'd have ordered but were very enjoyable. At times I'd have 6-8 of them in different colors & spec, but that was too much to maintain.
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Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar?
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Re-thinking I would now probable ordered a passenger's side outside rearview mirror.
I've been thinking of adding a RH mirror as well. Already have a LH remote mirror.
69 GTX
68 Road Runner
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Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar?
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Re-thinking I would now probable ordered a passenger's side outside rearview mirror.
I've been thinking of adding a RH mirror as well. Already have a LH remote mirror. I have to add G33 Left Outside remote mirror as my RR did have that BITD didn't know I ordered it but just now realized it had it. Thanks for the reminder.
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Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar?
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if where are talking Muscle car era cars. Here goes 1969 GTX convertible. 440 , auto, factory air, power steering and disc brakes. Power window car . AO1 light pkg, perf hood stripes B5 Blue with blue and white interior. R6 red would be a very close 2nd A very close 2nd would be 1967 GTX conv, optioned about the same . In either EE1 blue and same interior. OR maybe QQ1 Burgandy with all red interior If modern ride. This pretty much nails it, except add a sunroof https://www.larrymillerdodgeramtucs...ger-cf43d03e0a0e0a99401762ce630b2df7.htm
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Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar?
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In the GYC discussion, it was brought up that Mark Worman, is building a clone to his original 1970 Dodge Charger. On the show, Mark also talked about adding some factory options to the car, because he can. This is similar to how I am rebuilding MY first car, a 1969 Sport Satellite. I want to build it as if i was to walk into a dealership in late 1968-early 1969, and sit down, and order the car how I wanted. Yeah we all would love to order that One of One HEMI car, but I'm talking something the was realistic in the day. Remember most young people back then, made around $1.25 an hour, and while that HEMI option might seem cheap now, but it sure wasn't then. Plus add in insurance costs, and you see why so many of these cars were littering the for sale ads a few months after being bought new.
Here is how I would have ordered mine, and building today:
1969 Plymouth Sport Satellite
383 4 Bbl Super Commando
4 speed Adds $$ ?
B7 Blue with Black interior (although Pewter interior has crossed my mind)
Center console Adds $$ ?
Interior light package Adds $$ ?
Tachometer Adds $$ ?
AM 8 track stereo Adds $$ ?
3.23 Sure Grip rear
Disc Brakes Adds $$ ?
Tinted glass Adds $$ ?
3 speed wipers Adds $$ ?
I'd get the basic wheels, ONLY because I'd be installing new Keystone Kustomags mags the day it was delivered.
So, how would YOU order your new Mopar???
Making only $1.25/Hr, many didn't check many options because of added cost.
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Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar?
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A87 decor package A01/L31 lights G31 pass mirror S81 sport wheel J25 3 speed wipers N96 Tach maybe, but a Don Garlits would be available back then, right? Hemi suspension, think that gets you 3.91s as well G11 Tinted glass
Four speed
W1 with blue buckets with buddy seat.
Game time decision on ps, pb, and/or discs. Also depending on negotiations, am/fm, rear speaker, and the six way.
Great car for a daily. Hemi would be what most would want, but I’m thinking for everyday this would do.
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Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar?
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Mine would be: 1970 Sport Satellite 383 Super Commando 727 3.55 8 3/4 Column shift Bench seat w/fold-down center armrest B5 blue Black vinyl top B5 blue cloth interior PS/PB AM/FM w/rear speaker 15" Rally wheels Auxiliary light package A kid that I was friends with growing up (he lived right behind me) had this very car in 1975 when we were 18 years old. After he let me drive it a couple times, I knew I wanted that car badly and he knew it as well. He was not a car nut type of person like I was so he didn't have any attachment to the car. To him it was just another car. In a matter of months from the time he bought it, he sold it to another kid from our high school without even telling me he was selling it (some friend huh?). Saw the kid who bought it driving it one time after that on Gratiot Avenue and never saw the car again. No idea what happened to it. Nearly 50 years later, I still think of that car regularly. I've never had such a strong desire or passion for any other car like I did/still do for that one. I've been looking for a duplicate of it ever since, even posting wanted ads from time to time but never found one. Now, at my age, I doubt I ever will.
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Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar?
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1967 Coronet R/T convertible 440 (standard) 4-speed manual (standard) Standard sure-grip rear (3.54?) Center console with tach. Turbine Bronze White interior (includes black carpet and dash) Black convertible top Air conditioning (not recommended with 4-speed, should still be able to be ordered) AM/FM radio Magnum 500 wheels Power steering Power brakes LH remote mirror RH mirror Fender-mounted turn signal indicators
Paul 68 Sport Fury ragtop 67 Fury III 4-dr HT 11 Charger Rallye 17 Challenger SXT Plus
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Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar?
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In the GYC discussion, it was brought up that Mark Worman, is building a clone to his original 1970 Dodge Charger. On the show, Mark also talked about adding some factory options to the car, because he can. This is similar to how I am rebuilding MY first car, a 1969 Sport Satellite. I want to build it as if i was to walk into a dealership in late 1968-early 1969, and sit down, and order the car how I wanted. Yeah we all would love to order that One of One HEMI car, but I'm talking something the was realistic in the day. Remember most young people back then, made around $1.25 an hour, and while that HEMI option might seem cheap now, but it sure wasn't then. Plus add in insurance costs, and you see why so many of these cars were littering the for sale ads a few months after being bought new.
Here is how I would have ordered mine, and building today:
1969 Plymouth Sport Satellite
383 4 Bbl Super Commando
4 speed Adds $$ ?
B7 Blue with Black interior (although Pewter interior has crossed my mind)
Center console Adds $$ ?
Interior light package Adds $$ ?
Tachometer Adds $$ ?
AM 8 track stereo Adds $$ ?
3.23 Sure Grip rear
Disc Brakes Adds $$ ?
Tinted glass Adds $$ ?
3 speed wipers Adds $$ ?
I'd get the basic wheels, ONLY because I'd be installing new Keystone Kustomags mags the day it was delivered.
So, how would YOU order your new Mopar???
Making only $1.25/Hr, many didn't check many options because of added cost. That is true. Does anyone know where the original option cost breakdown can be found online?
69 GTX
68 Road Runner
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Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar?
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In the GYC discussion, it was brought up that Mark Worman, is building a clone to his original 1970 Dodge Charger. On the show, Mark also talked about adding some factory options to the car, because he can. This is similar to how I am rebuilding MY first car, a 1969 Sport Satellite. I want to build it as if i was to walk into a dealership in late 1968-early 1969, and sit down, and order the car how I wanted. Yeah we all would love to order that One of One HEMI car, but I'm talking something the was realistic in the day. Remember most young people back then, made around $1.25 an hour, and while that HEMI option might seem cheap now, but it sure wasn't then. Plus add in insurance costs, and you see why so many of these cars were littering the for sale ads a few months after being bought new.
Here is how I would have ordered mine, and building today:
1969 Plymouth Sport Satellite
383 4 Bbl Super Commando
4 speed Adds $$ ?
B7 Blue with Black interior (although Pewter interior has crossed my mind)
Center console Adds $$ ?
Interior light package Adds $$ ?
Tachometer Adds $$ ?
AM 8 track stereo Adds $$ ?
3.23 Sure Grip rear
Disc Brakes Adds $$ ?
Tinted glass Adds $$ ?
3 speed wipers Adds $$ ?
I'd get the basic wheels, ONLY because I'd be installing new Keystone Kustomags mags the day it was delivered.
So, how would YOU order your new Mopar???
Making only $1.25/Hr, many didn't check many options because of added cost. So true. When I look back at when I sat down in '69 to order my RR I had aleady driven a friend's '68 RM21 bare bones NO OPTIONS HEMI Road Runner with a 3.23 OPEN 8-3/4 727 and yes the HEMI motor was impressive but I just couldn't deal with how bare bones no options it was. I think the HEMI option was around $814 and that's just about what I paid for all of the options on my base $3083 RM23 383 Road Runner back then at around $3700+ out the door. I'm pretty impressed so far with the level headed builds members have been posting
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Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar?
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I'd either order a 71 RR or GTX, curious yellow, steel wheels, 440-6 or Hemi, four speed, Dana all options. Or maybe a 69 Dart, 340, 727, 3.91's, bare bones, rubber floor mat instead of carpet, no radio, just the bare minimum. Then I'd go big block hunting.
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Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar?
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In 68 or 69, I would have ordered a 4 speed because I 100% knew real race cars had stick shift transmissions. Come 1976, when I was going faster with an automatic, using the same engine in a heavier car, I realized that between the breakage, the slower e.t.'s and inconstancy, a 4 speed wasn't really all it was bragged up to be. My big screw-up was turning down the name brand racing automatic and matching converter that one of my sponsers offered me in 1970. That was a real bone head move.
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Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar?
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Somebody wanted a price list, here’s one for 69 RR/GTX and probably same exact stuff for Satellite.
As for the wage thing, costs are waaaaaayyyyy higher today. For instance, a college professor I had went to grad school at ucla in 1964. He worked a summer job and payed cash for it, with plenty left over so he didn’t work during school. Minimum wage was about a dollar an hour, the grad school cost him 40 bucks! People make more today of course, but costs have risen all over the board at a higher clip percentage wise.
I want my fair share
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Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar?
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Mine would be:
1976 Plymouth Trailduster SUV Fulltime 4wd 440-4v 727 Factory Air Conditioning, AM/FM radio Sport package Russet Red with White top, white wheels with Dog Dish hubcaps
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76 Dodge Adventurer Sport Power Wagon W100 318, 727, NP203 Fulltime 4x4 Russet Red 06 Jeep Commander Ltd 4x4, 5.7L Hemi, QuadraDrive II 06 Chrysler 300C AWD 5.7L Hemi 10 Mopar 10 Challenger R/T, #483/500, 5.7L HEMI 10 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd 4x4 5.7L HEMI 11 Dodge Ram 1500 LoneStar Quad Cab, 5.7L HEMI, Fulltime 4x4, Deep Cherry Red 16 Jeep Cherokee Limited 3.2L Pentastar V6, 9 Speed Torqueflite, 4x4, Black
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Re: How would YOU order a new Mopar?
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Somebody wanted a price list, here’s one for 69 RR/GTX and probably same exact stuff for Satellite.
As for the wage thing, costs are waaaaaayyyyy higher today. For instance, a college professor I had went to grad school at ucla in 1964. He worked a summer job and payed cash for it, with plenty left over so he didn’t work during school. Minimum wage was about a dollar an hour, the grad school cost him 40 bucks! People make more today of course, but costs have risen all over the board at a higher clip percentage wise. Thank you. Now if I can figure out the extra cost of the 383 4 Bbl for a Sport Satellite.
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68 Road Runner
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