there are a lot of people have opinions on everything. i am going to look at a 1985 Honda V65 saber this weekend. a V65 saber is 1100cc liquid cooled V4 with shaft drive. the bike is CHEAP in my mind.. i always wanted one. i almost bought one new. instead i bought a Suzuki GSX 1150F that had been in a light drop and the owner got to many speeding tickets with it so his parents made him sell it. that was the fastest motorcycle i have ever ridden. i found several message boards on these bikes. after searching i couldn't find any real values on it without signing up. according to the seller and pics it hasn't been on the road since 2015. pics show expired plates on that year. bike has 11K miles on it. supposedly the seller relative owned it. been stored inside until he got it 3 months ago. now stored outside. seller says he removed the tank, flushed it out and got bike running.it runs so so needs the carbs cleaned. and things freshened up. he lost his work space so bike is for sale. the pics show a pretty clean bike. the polished side covers look clean and no oxidation on them. the seat looks mint along with the gauge cluster. i know outside storage causes bikes to go downhill fast. so the pics are probably deceiving.
if i do a quick going thru. basically replacing everything rubber. clean the carbs. a good cleaning and buff or possibly a decent paint job. i am a body man so this is no big deal to me. a online search says there parts are reasonably priced. would cost about $1K in parts.
i figure fix it, ride it for a bit then sell for a small profit. what would a really nice looking bike sell for these days in riding saeson.? my gut says about $3500. am i carzy?
i have checked both facebook and craigs list, actually search tempest. there are no nice ones for sale. only projects. also checked Ebay. no comparables. the 3 listed guides don't go back to the 80's.
Without being able to ride it I would be cautious on money. Those bikes were parked a lot because of transmission issues, usually 2nd gear out. With what you know it needs already you'd be better off in it at about $2K.
2 bikes I’m looking for are the Honda 6 cylinder (80s I think) and Harley XLCH (early 60s) Both are hard to find but maybe someday. Like said if it can’t be ridden low ball it. Pig in a poke deal. My first ‘wheels’ was a year old 67 305 Super Hawk. the ladies loved that bike!
Stabbing the carbs is a lot of fun on those V4's between the V of the cylinders. I did a V45 Sabre restore that had been sitting and I was not very impressed with the bike so I soon sold it. The 65 is supposed to be better. Just guessing I wouldn't pay over $1,500 if its pretty clean. Make sure the tank is not rusty. When it comes to street bikes I like inline 4 cylinders to work on and ride.
If everything mechanical is good and the tank is not rusted internally - in other words the bike truly needs only a rider I think $3500 is not bad-although Id try and negotiate it down. It really needs to be ridden to rule out serious issues like the mentioned transmission problems. In 2021 I sold a very very clean and nice 1983 Suzuki GS1100E for $3,000. It had 19,000 miles and ran flawlessly.
Keep old mopars alive.
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[Re: 2boltmain]
#3205813 01/18/2407:53 AM01/18/2407:53 AM
THANKS for the replies. first off IF i buy it it will be significantly less than the $3500 i mentioned. this # is what i figure it will be worth once it's finished and looking new again. actually i can buy if for $600. i figure i will have to pay about $1000 in parts to make it nice. i figure it will take about 50-60 hours to do the work. if it turns out to be a turd i can easily sell it off in parts and still make a few $$$. during my searches i have found a lot of bad 2nd gear problems. also clutch master and brake master cylinder leaks. these seem to be the biggest weak spots on these bikes.
have done some searching and i can't find any real sales of nice bikes. i guess i should have phrased the question differently. what would you pay or what do you think it will be worth for a nicely restored V65 saber with 11K miles on it during riding season.
THANKS for the replies. first off IF i buy it it will be significantly less than the $3500 i mentioned. this # is what i figure it will be worth once it's finished and looking new again. actually i can buy if for $600. i figure i will have to pay about $1000 in parts to make it nice. i figure it will take about 50-60 hours to do the work. if it turns out to be a turd i can easily sell it off in parts and still make a few $$$. during my searches i have found a lot of bad 2nd gear problems. also clutch master and brake master cylinder leaks. these seem to be the biggest weak spots on these bikes.
have done some searching and i can't find any real sales of nice bikes. i guess i should have phrased the question differently. what would you pay or what do you think it will be worth for a nicely restored V65 saber with 11K miles on it during riding season.
At $600 I'd go for it. As you said you can easily make more back as a parts bike even if you find another for a little more to use the parts for that project.
2 bikes I’m looking for are the Honda 6 cylinder (80s I think) and Harley XLCH (early 60s) Both are hard to find but maybe someday. Like said if it can’t be ridden low ball it. Pig in a poke deal. My first ‘wheels’ was a year old 67 305 Super Hawk. the ladies loved that bike!
For sure, the Super Hawk was a great looking bike, still is. I had a new '67 305 Scrambler back then as my second bike. I have two 305 Scramblers now. Just found a perfect 5200 mile garage find 305 Scrambler. Found on FBMP by accident looking for another bike. Was a "make offer" so I threw out a stupid really low offer and the person took it. Thought it might be a scam but it turned out the person was absolutely a great guy. He was helping an older woman from his church to clear out her garage as her husband owned it and just want to get her some money quickly. Was missing the ignition key but you can get keys cut by the lock number stamped into it. $12 bucks a key and works perfect. Here's the seller when he was loading it up at the woman's home, EVERYTHING is there except the rubber footpeg covers, all of the original air in the tires and off course the keys Even has an original 1971 Michigan license plate still on it.
Mike
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#3205826 01/18/2409:33 AM01/18/2409:33 AM
You probably already know this, but the website CommonMotorCollective specializes in parts for old Honda twins, your bike isn't listed specifically, but they do stock the square style footpeg rubber that it looks like your bike has. I just got a shipment from them last week to redo my '75 Scrambler's bars, rebuild the petcock, and replace the throttle cables. They also have an electronic ignition conversion kit that would probably also work on your 305's.
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[Re: 73DAD]
#3205839 01/18/2410:44 AM01/18/2410:44 AM
Those V65s had camshaft issues that were never resolved. Lifetime parts warranty for the original owner but I don't know about future owners or if parts are even available now.
My cousin had one and went for his first warranty claim at 25,000 miles. The dealer thought he wasn't aware of the warranty policy and wanted his receipts for the 2 previous sets of cams he must have bought so he could get him a refund.
When it was confirmed there had been no others, Honda Corporate called to ask how he had managed to get 25k out of a part that was guaranteed to fail before 7500. The short answer was Mobil1 and they said thank you and never called again.
2 bikes I’m looking for are the Honda 6 cylinder (80s I think) and Harley XLCH (early 60s) Both are hard to find but maybe someday. Like said if it can’t be ridden low ball it. Pig in a poke deal. My first ‘wheels’ was a year old 67 305 Super Hawk. the ladies loved that bike!
For sure, the Super Hawk was a great looking bike, still is. I had a new '67 305 Scrambler back then as my second bike. I have two 305 Scramblers now. Just found a perfect 5200 mile garage find 305 Scrambler. Found on FBMP by accident looking for another bike. Was a "make offer" so I threw out a stupid really low offer and the person took it. Thought it might be a scam but it turned out the person was absolutely a great guy. He was helping an older woman from his church to clear out her garage as her husband owned it and just want to get her some money quickly. Was missing the ignition key but you can get keys cut by the lock number stamped into it. $12 bucks a key and works perfect. Here's the seller when he was loading it up at the woman's home, EVERYTHING is there except the rubber footpeg covers, all of the original air in the tires and off course the keys Even has an original 1971 Michigan license plate still on it.
Mike
I am envious to say the least, I wanted one of those so bad too. I weighed 150 then lol now 250 might look funny on it now! My buddy had one then, no muffler just the little throttle blades thing he could turn to make quite
Being a long-time Harley owner, I turned up my nose at the Japanese offerings until the liquid-cooled V4's appeared. Rode the V65, V-Max and settled on the Suzuki GV1200 Madura.
The 85 Sabre, Magna and Interceptor Hondas with the V4 engine were known to have camshaft problems. The cam lobe were not hardened properly and suffered cam wear issues. If this bike has the Honda updated cams in it, its a typical reliable Honda engine. But it is also a complicated bike to work on, and if you do the work yourself its just time consuming. If you need work done that you can't do yourself, better find yourself a very good independent shop. Most Honda dealers won't even touch a vintage complicated bike over ten years old. These days labor rates at cycle shops are in the $125/hour. If that bike requires carb work, it can take an hour just to get the carbs out and ready for service. A complete carb cleaning/tuning could cost you nearly $500. Regardless of low miles, a near perfect 1985 Magna is at most a $1500 motorcycle, I wouldn't offer a dime more.
Don't get me wrong, I always thought the Honda V4 engines were fascinating. I've been involved in cycles since the early 70s, and I recall when the Honda V4s came out, like WOW! But just be ready for what you may be getting into. Also, a bike with low miles for its age is not always the best. Average yearly miles nationwide is about 2,500, so a bike 37 years old if ridden normally would have something well over 50,000 miles. If a bike sits for many years and is not regularly ridden and maintained the internal rubber parts dry out, fuel pumps get gummed up and rusty. Hondas require specific coolant to make sure the water pump seals don't fail, so the bike should be checked for the cooling system. Don't be too certain that buying it and parting it out is a money gain. There just is very little market for the mid 80's V4 Hondas other than the very desireable 500 Interceptor, maybe the 750 Interceptor (not the 700).
I have always done all my own work on my bikes. If I buy a bike I fully expect to get deep into it to make sure everything is right, and I'll buy a non-runner with the intent to make it run again. I bought a 64 Honda 305 Superhawk about eight years ago, engine rusted stuck, but near complete, for $250. Its a project in waiting for my shop, cylinders soaked in 50/50 Acetone/ATF. Along with the 72 CB350F (had one in hig schol back in 74) that I bought, running, near complete, with title for $300. My rough guide price wise is $1 per CC.
i don't have a clue ! i haven't ridden a bike for over 25 years because of my MS, but i still have the MC rider on my license. if i was on one, when i came to a stop i would fall over and couldn't get up.
2 bikes I’m looking for are the Honda 6 cylinder (80s I think) and Harley XLCH (early 60s) Both are hard to find but maybe someday. Like said if it can’t be ridden low ball it. Pig in a poke deal. My first ‘wheels’ was a year old 67 305 Super Hawk. the ladies loved that bike!
For sure, the Super Hawk was a great looking bike, still is. I had a new '67 305 Scrambler back then as my second bike. I have two 305 Scramblers now. Just found a perfect 5200 mile garage find 305 Scrambler. Found on FBMP by accident looking for another bike. Was a "make offer" so I threw out a stupid really low offer and the person took it. Thought it might be a scam but it turned out the person was absolutely a great guy. He was helping an older woman from his church to clear out her garage as her husband owned it and just want to get her some money quickly. Was missing the ignition key but you can get keys cut by the lock number stamped into it. $12 bucks a key and works perfect. Here's the seller when he was loading it up at the woman's home, EVERYTHING is there except the rubber footpeg covers, all of the original air in the tires and off course the keys Even has an original 1971 Michigan license plate still on it.
Mike
I am envious to say the least, I wanted one of those so bad too. I weighed 150 then lol now 250 might look funny on it now! My buddy had one then, no muffler just the little throttle blades thing he could turn to make quite
"Snuff-or-Not" they were called, had the too. The 305 Scrambler exhaust with the big muffler on the end removed and nothing in the end of both pipes was "MUSIC".
I would love to find a decent used Kawasaki (SP?) 750 CC three cylinder two stroke to ride now and then,, I would probably end up killing myself on it I've never ridden one of them, I have ridden the 1969,1970 and 1971 Kawasaki 3 cylinder 500 cc two stroke bikes, I liked them a lot but they had no low end power below 5000 RPM, I was told that the 750 CC motors fix that but none of the dealer I went to in SO CA back then would let you ride one before buying it Oh well Probably was the best thing for me, that might have saved my life or a lot of tickets and pain from crashing on one of them
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
i don't have a clue ! i haven't ridden a bike for over 25 years because of my MS, but i still have the MC rider on my license. if i was on one, when i came to a stop i would fall over and couldn't get up.
There's a few nice 3-wheeler Harleys and Honda Gold Wings, just saying
Go to around minute 4:26 ( ) and listen to the sound of an unsilenced 305 SCRAMBLER. Then moparx you should go to the 7:00 minute and I'll post a bit of Jim Morrison trivia and why he was really cool.
Nothing wrong with riding a three wheel motorcycle. Since I lost my right leg in "92" that's all I have ridden. I'm 78yo and still in the wind and the wife feels safer and more comfortable. Latest trike is a home built 2003 Kawasaki 1600 Vulcan fuel injected, liquid cooled, shaft drive.Rides super smooth at freeway (plus ) speeds.
I had 2 750 H-2 triples over the years. You really had to pay attention to throttle control and rpm. It was really easy to have the front wheel a foot off the ground and not even realize it.
I had a neighbor who built up a Mach IV and would get the parts he outgrew. Denco chambers sounded otherworldly. Cops were not fond of me.
The 85 Sabre, Magna and Interceptor Hondas with the V4 engine were known to have camshaft problems. The cam lobe were not hardened properly and suffered cam wear issues. If this bike has the Honda updated cams in it, its a typical reliable Honda engine. But it is also a complicated bike to work on, and if you do the work yourself its just time consuming. If you need work done that you can't do yourself, better find yourself a very good independent shop. Most Honda dealers won't even touch a vintage complicated bike over ten years old. These days labor rates at cycle shops are in the $125/hour. If that bike requires carb work, it can take an hour just to get the carbs out and ready for service. A complete carb cleaning/tuning could cost you nearly $500. Regardless of low miles, a near perfect 1985 Magna is at most a $1500 motorcycle, I wouldn't offer a dime more.
Don't get me wrong, I always thought the Honda V4 engines were fascinating. I've been involved in cycles since the early 70s, and I recall when the Honda V4s came out, like WOW! But just be ready for what you may be getting into. Also, a bike with low miles for its age is not always the best. Average yearly miles nationwide is about 2,500, so a bike 37 years old if ridden normally would have something well over 50,000 miles. If a bike sits for many years and is not regularly ridden and maintained the internal rubber parts dry out, fuel pumps get gummed up and rusty. Hondas require specific coolant to make sure the water pump seals don't fail, so the bike should be checked for the cooling system. Don't be too certain that buying it and parting it out is a money gain. There just is very little market for the mid 80's V4 Hondas other than the very desireable 500 Interceptor, maybe the 750 Interceptor (not the 700).
I have always done all my own work on my bikes. If I buy a bike I fully expect to get deep into it to make sure everything is right, and I'll buy a non-runner with the intent to make it run again. I bought a 64 Honda 305 Superhawk about eight years ago, engine rusted stuck, but near complete, for $250. It’s a project in waiting for my shop, cylinders soaked in 50/50 Acetone/ATF. Along with the 72 CB350F (had one in hig schol back in 74) that I bought, running, near complete, with title for $300. My rough guide price wise is $1 per CC.
If you were closer I’d give you a 305 engine, can’t remember the name but something was added to make it bigger? Don’t know its condition, been in a car trunk for over 40 years. Why I hang on to this stuff I’ll never know! Also some extra parts, speedo cluster, coils, starter. I got mine up to 100 mph around 10,000 rpm chest laying on tank, never did tha again very unstable (no helmet either) young and dumb.
Re: vintage motorcycle value?
[Re: Andyvh1959]
#3206144 01/19/2410:51 AM01/19/2410:51 AM
The 85 Sabre, Magna and Interceptor Hondas with the V4 engine were known to have camshaft problems. The cam lobe were not hardened properly and suffered cam wear issues. If this bike has the Honda updated cams in it, its a typical reliable Honda engine. But it is also a complicated bike to work on, and if you do the work yourself its just time consuming. If you need work done that you can't do yourself, better find yourself a very good independent shop. Most Honda dealers won't even touch a vintage complicated bike over ten years old. These days labor rates at cycle shops are in the $125/hour. If that bike requires carb work, it can take an hour just to get the carbs out and ready for service. A complete carb cleaning/tuning could cost you nearly $500. Regardless of low miles, a near perfect 1985 Magna is at most a $1500 motorcycle, I wouldn't offer a dime more.
Don't get me wrong, I always thought the Honda V4 engines were fascinating. I've been involved in cycles since the early 70s, and I recall when the Honda V4s came out, like WOW! But just be ready for what you may be getting into. Also, a bike with low miles for its age is not always the best. Average yearly miles nationwide is about 2,500, so a bike 37 years old if ridden normally would have something well over 50,000 miles. If a bike sits for many years and is not regularly ridden and maintained the internal rubber parts dry out, fuel pumps get gummed up and rusty. Hondas require specific coolant to make sure the water pump seals don't fail, so the bike should be checked for the cooling system. Don't be too certain that buying it and parting it out is a money gain. There just is very little market for the mid 80's V4 Hondas other than the very desireable 500 Interceptor, maybe the 750 Interceptor (not the 700).
I have always done all my own work on my bikes. If I buy a bike I fully expect to get deep into it to make sure everything is right, and I'll buy a non-runner with the intent to make it run again. I bought a 64 Honda 305 Superhawk about eight years ago, engine rusted stuck, but near complete, for $250. Its a project in waiting for my shop, cylinders soaked in 50/50 Acetone/ATF. Along with the 72 CB350F (had one in hig schol back in 74) that I bought, running, near complete, with title for $300. My rough guide price wise is $1 per CC.
I have a good friend that is a chemical engineer and has worked with Honda, KTM, Yamaha etc. that reminded me a week ago that one of the best things to soak the cylinders in is a 50/50 blend of diesel and ATF. I thought I remembered him telling me years ago (for my '68 RR) to use a 50/50 of Techron and diesel and when I asked a week ago he said that Techron is not so good for old gaskets. Don't know how good acetone might be but if you're going to tear it done I guess it doesn;t much matter. Hey when you do tear it down how about posting a few photos on how it worked? Thanks. Oh and he said the mixture of diesel and ATF will soften rust too and to try it on my exhaust.
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#3206146 01/19/2410:56 AM01/19/2410:56 AM
My other 305 Scrambler I bought a few years ago out of Arizona for $500 bucks. Note the typical vinyl (car interior) rot from the Southwest I have since taken it apart and done some pieces, parts paint work but got a surprise when I went looking for some manuals and info from a guy that calls himself "Mr Vintage Honda" out on the west coast. He asked me what color it was and I of course said silver tank and silver side panels, along with front and rear CHROME fenders. To which he said the only Scramblers that had CHROME fenders were the candy color bikes. So I grabbed one of the side panels and sure enough under the red primer oxide was CANDY ORANGE paint They did the final run of 305 Scramblers in late '67 in candy orange and candy blue that I know of. One of my best friends Frankie bought the local dealers last one in candy orange. I think I still have a photo of it back in the day. Really sharp looking.
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#3206156 01/19/2411:23 AM01/19/2411:23 AM
My other 305 Scrambler I bought a few years ago out of Arizona for $500 bucks. Note the typical vinyl (car interior) rot from the Southwest I have since taken it apart and done some pieces, parts paint work but got a surprise when I went looking for some manuals and info from a guy that calls himself "Mr Vintage Honda" out on the west coast. He asked me what color it was and I of course said silver tank and silver side panels, along with front and rear CHROME fenders. To which he said the only Scramblers that had CHROME fenders were the candy color bikes. So I grabbed one of the side panels and sure enough under the red primer oxide was CANDY ORANGE paint They did the final run of 305 Scramblers in late '67 in candy orange and candy blue that I know of. One of my best friends Frankie bought the local dealers last one in candy orange. I think I still have a photo of it back in the day. Really sharp looking.
The buddies scrambler I mentioned was candy blue and I thought it was kustom painted?! It had chrome fenders too!
i don't have a clue ! i haven't ridden a bike for over 25 years because of my MS, but i still have the MC rider on my license. if i was on one, when i came to a stop i would fall over and couldn't get up.
There's a few nice 3-wheeler Harleys and Honda Gold Wings, just saying
and to include stumpy as well................
i have a couple of caravans in my buddy's junkyard with good running drivetrains, [the body's are rusted off 'em], and i have thought many times about building a trike. however, i have too many projects already that need completed, and my "shopping days" are fast running out, [did you notice it's friday AGAIN already ? ], i really can't justify building [or buying for that matter] a trike. if i did build one, it would HAVE to be MOPAR powered !
My other 305 Scrambler I bought a few years ago out of Arizona for $500 bucks. Note the typical vinyl (car interior) rot from the Southwest I have since taken it apart and done some pieces, parts paint work but got a surprise when I went looking for some manuals and info from a guy that calls himself "Mr Vintage Honda" out on the west coast. He asked me what color it was and I of course said silver tank and silver side panels, along with front and rear CHROME fenders. To which he said the only Scramblers that had CHROME fenders were the candy color bikes. So I grabbed one of the side panels and sure enough under the red primer oxide was CANDY ORANGE paint They did the final run of 305 Scramblers in late '67 in candy orange and candy blue that I know of. One of my best friends Frankie bought the local dealers last one in candy orange. I think I still have a photo of it back in the day. Really sharp looking.
The buddies scrambler I mentioned was candy blue and I thought it was kustom painted?! It had chrome fenders too!
There's one more "telltale" that was part of the candy color 305 Scrambler (before restoration) and this one is missing it, as many restored ones do too. The seat cover should have chrome pipping around the top of the seat. This one is missing it as I say many use the silver gas tank non-pipping seat cover. I found the only place that reproduces the chrome pipping covers in Florida after months and months of searching. Here's a blue 305 Scrambler with the correct chrome seat pipping. The candy orange 305 also has the correct seat pipping. I'll dig up the seat cover vendor's info if anyone wants or needs a source of a correct cover for your project? What is really nice about this M/C seat cover company and I forgot until I just opened the box is they included everything to do it correctly. Included is the chrome for around the bottom of the seat and it's preformed, along with the chrome pipping on the cover and even the passenger's strap hand hold.
Speaking of the correct seat pipping and chrome front and rear fenders so you can spot an original "candy paint" 305 Scramble, here's a little trivia. Who was the famous painter back in the day and who owned this bike back then?
i guess this thread was for nothing. i got up this am and read a email from the seller telling me the bike is sold. seller said he was digging the bike out of the snow bank. someone was driving by. they stopped, looked at it. he told him someone was going to buy it on Saturday. he made him a offer he couldn't refuse so he sold it.
i was supposed to look at it last weekend. needless to say driving 200 miles 1 way in sub zero weather. then digging the bike out of a snow bank in sub zero weather. then trying to get it started wasn't on the top of my list of things i wanted to do. like a rational person i rescheduled to today. OH well i guess it wasn't meant to be.
Looking back IMO it may have been for the better. Especially if that seller didn't have the courtesy to let you know well in advance that someone else made him an offer and didn't let you maybe make a counter offer knowing you were willing to drive 400 miles to pick it up and bring it home. Hmmmmm I wonder how second gear is in it, I bet that seller knows
No it wasn't for nothing, shoot I hi-jacked it early on and having a great time with my VINTAGE MOTORCYCLES and their VALUES and I think maybe a few other members?
Hey we'll all keep an eye and ear out for another one for you.
Mike
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#3206459 01/20/2411:29 AM01/20/2411:29 AM
Looking back IMO it may have been for the better. Especially if that seller didn't have the courtesy to let you know well in advance that someone else made him an offer and didn't let you maybe make a counter offer knowing you were willing to drive 400 miles to pick it up and bring it home. Hmmmmm I wonder how second gear is in it, I bet that seller knows
Mike
IMO it isn't that big of a deal to me. at least he let me know it was sold before i left to look at it. finally owning a V65 might be nice. but i have owned and driven multiple extremely fast bikes. a 77 Suzuki GT750 2 stroke, a couple of 80's CB 900F's. a KZ 900, KZ 1000, a XS1100, a V65 interceptor, a v30 interceptor, a Suzuki GSX 1150F that i got busted for driving 100+mph over the limit. spent 1 year in work release prison for that one. sure it was somewhat rude to sell it out from under me. but in all reality driving 400 miles in single digit weather is' better than sub 0 temps. but it still isn't that high on my list either. there will be more. it's not like that was the only one for sale.
my friend has been restoring multiple old Yamaha DT dirt bikes. i have painted all of the parts for him. after his 5 one i started to get the motorcycle itch again
Looking back IMO it may have been for the better. Especially if that seller didn't have the courtesy to let you know well in advance that someone else made him an offer and didn't let you maybe make a counter offer knowing you were willing to drive 400 miles to pick it up and bring it home. Hmmmmm I wonder how second gear is in it, I bet that seller knows
Mike
I think you need to reread what he posted. Looks to me like the seller let him know as soon as possible. Especially since the OP was supposed to come by last weekend and decided to reschedule. As a seller I ain't holding anything for anyone unless you want to put a nonrefundable deposit of substance down on it. Too many flakes out there, not saying the OP is a flake, but short of a deposit there is no reason to hold off on a good cash in hand offer.
I think you need to reread what he posted. Looks to me like the seller let him know as soon as possible. Especially since the OP was supposed to come by last weekend and decided to reschedule. As a seller I ain't holding anything for anyone unless you want to put a nonrefundable deposit of substance down on it. Too many flakes out there, not saying the OP is a flake, but short of a deposit there is no reason to hold off on a good cash in hand offer. [/quote]
I AGREE 100% with this. i try to sell a lot of stuff. my rule is who has the cash first wins. there are a LOT of people who skip and never show when they say they will. i as a buyer kept in regular contact with the seller. the seller agreed with me messing with the bike on a sub 0 day was foolish. after digging it out of the snow bank. chances of getting a warm weather motorcycle started in sub 0 temps is next to none. i made it perfectly clear i wasn't buying unless it was running and it could put it on the center stand and run it thru the gears first. i have 0 problems with the seller doing what he did..
Von Dutch indeed ! i have some magazines from the late 50's and early 60's that show him doing work. the picture that i always remember best of him was him sitting around "the campfire" of painting supplies, playing a flute, with a striping brush sticking out of his ear.
Any guesses as to which world-famous long distance off-road race the slightly smaller displacement version of the CL77 305 Scrambler the CL72 250 Scrambler was the inspiration for?
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#3208946 01/29/2403:21 AM01/29/2403:21 AM
Any guesses as to which world-famous long distance off-road race the slightly smaller displacement version of the CL77 305 Scrambler the CL72 250 Scrambler was the inspiration for?
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and off course the keys 
Even has an original 1971 Michigan license plate still on it. 
Oh well 
Probably was the best thing for me, that might have saved my life or a lot of tickets and pain from crashing on one of them 
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"Hey what's that under that stuff in your garage, Martha?" 
They did the final run of 305 Scramblers in late '67 in candy orange and candy blue that I know of. One of my best friends Frankie bought the local dealers last one in candy orange. I think I still have a photo of it back in the day. Really sharp looking.
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