Re: are you smarter than someone with Ph.D.
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Smart and educated are two different things. True. I worked with a lot of educated dummies.
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Re: are you smarter than someone with Ph.D.
[Re: SomeCarGuy]
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Smart and educated are two different things. Same. As an adult in my later years, I equate real world inteligence with FU wealth. Not Elon Musk wealth but mortal $10M+ wealth. I know and have know many with no formal education or college drop outs that were/atre GREAT friends/mentors/people buy wealthy. Have a buddy 10 years younge that dropped out of U of M because he used to tell me "I can't even understand some of these professors and I KNOW I can make more money in the real world". He told me this at like 21. At 51 he "works from home": in Key West 3 months a year while his 150 employees, around the world, keep the $ flowing. He is VERY intelligent even though a drop out.
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Re: are you smarter than someone with Ph.D.
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Well,... 20 years ago I could tune a carb very well. The last vehicle with a carb left here in 2011. Haven't had much practice since then. The old memory isn't as good as it used to be, especially with things I haven't done for a while. That said, sometimes hands on stuff refreshes the memory pretty fast. Maybe I'd do all right, but all bets are off for that 1st one.
Being smarter then someone holding a PH.D has little meaning to me, Who am I to determine who is smart and who isn't? Some people have experiences other do not have. That doesn't make them smarter then someone else, it just means they have more experience with something then someone else has.
Over all, I've not been too impressed lately with people with lots of letters behind their names. I believe the current education system is very good at educating the common sense right out of people. Without common sense, education doesn't seem to accomplish much in real life. We have 6 PH.D holders in my extended family. One of them is still smart.
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Re: are you smarter than someone with Ph.D.
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I'm definitely less educated but smarter???????? Maybe. While developing a gas mix for a high powered Co2 laser I kept telling my PhD boss it needed more of 2 gases. He said no. OK. six months later he went to the fatherland ( Germany) and left me a list of experiments to try. He said if you get through them all try whatever you want till I get back. When he returned he asked how did we do? I said we're done. Excitedly he asked whic of the experiments worked? I replied NONE. Puzzled he asked what did work? I said adding more of the two gases. he then asked have you verified this? I said there are 10 lasers ready for you to test yourself He later said what I did was against the books and that he would have never tried it.
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Re: are you smarter than someone with Ph.D.
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He later said what I did was against the books And so he fired you right? Just kidding but that would most likely have happened in lots of other places, I've seen it a few times.
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Re: are you smarter than someone with Ph.D.
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Smart and educated are two different things. Same. As an adult in my later years, I equate real world inteligence with FU wealth. Not Elon Musk wealth but mortal $10M+ wealth. I know and have know many with no formal education or college drop outs that were/atre GREAT friends/mentors/people buy wealthy. Have a buddy 10 years younge that dropped out of U of M because he used to tell me "I can't even understand some of these professors and I KNOW I can make more money in the real world". He told me this at like 21. At 51 he "works from home": in Key West 3 months a year while his 150 employees, around the world, keep the $ flowing. He is VERY intelligent even though a drop out. I equate wealth with hard work , luck ( right place , right time) and good business sense. My father had a phd in physics and some carpentry skills but he was lousy with money. After he passed people would say to me how brilliant he was. A few years later the team he worked on won a Nobel Prize for discovering some new particle or something. My oldest brother has Masters in EE and became CEO of one the largest chip makers in NA. He can't pour sand out of a boot. My father told him in 1969 to study EE said computers are going to be a thing.
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Re: are you smarter than someone with Ph.D.
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He later said what I did was against the books And so he fired you right? Just kidding but that would most likely have happened in lots of other places, I've seen it a few times. No he didn't and we are god friends to this day. I should have stayed working for him (LONG STORY) as I'd likely be better off in some aspects. The day I left he said, I am not sure which of us learned more from the other. Best man I ever worked for
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Re: are you smarter than someone with Ph.D.
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I helped a few ‘Ds’ (mostly doctors for some reason) with simple house building related stuff, but they had knowledge (info). We talked on a one to one basis and once they realized I knew what I was talking about they left me alone to do the job. Oh, and I self taught myself how to tune a carb 50 years ago (air and fuel bleeds, before screw in bleeds) to make a 2-4 max wedge with Hollys idle at 600 rpm with instant response in gear. Tuning is more than just turning some screws. 3 things I have on my phone
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Re: are you smarter than someone with Ph.D.
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Smart and educated are two different things. Smart, Educated and Wise are three different things.
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Re: are you smarter than someone with Ph.D.
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Every hillbilly in the trailer park is a [censored] genius. Just ask one of them.
So, are you a genius?
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Re: are you smarter than someone with Ph.D.
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Every hillbilly in the trailer park is a [censored] genius. Just ask one of them.
Funny, but sometimes true. I know several people with IQs at or above 200, no common sense though. I could qualify for Mensa membership, but I couldn't possibly care less.
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Re: are you smarter than someone with Ph.D.
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The original Binet IQ test was a good idea - French school teacher Binet used it to decide when to put a child with no birth certificate who did not know his age into first grade, and when to assign a child who we now call “special needs” into classes with special teachers. A truly weird professor at Stanford University, Louis Terman, who previously studied termite mounds modified Binet’s IQ test into what is called the “Stanford-Binet IQ test” and used it in the 1920s to spot what he believed to be the top 2% of children with an IQ score of 140. These kids self-adopted the nickname “Terman’s Termites” There is a book written about them called “Terman’s Kids” https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/joel-n-shurkin/termans-kids/Louis Terman believed they would be the next Nobel Prize winners - but none of these children with 140 IQs did, while two students with 120 IQs that he tested and rejected did win Nobel Prizes. Another professor - this time at Harvard U - studied high IQ Harvard students and compared them to matched Boston children who did not go to college in a long running study. Dr Valiant found that in both the Harvard kids and the Boston kids there was this trend - the higher the IQ the more likely the child would become an alcoholic. Valiant wrote a good book: What You can Change and What You Can’t If you go to a few MENSA meetings the amount of heavy drinking is noticeable, kinda the opposite of AA
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Re: are you smarter than someone with Ph.D.
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If you go to a few MENSA meetings the amount of heavy drinking is noticeable, kinda the opposite of AA
Maybe I should rethink my position.
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
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