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Re: WIW 1970 R/T Challenger 440 4spd 410 Dana [Re: mpt] #3184729
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Powering steering gear box leaks..

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Re: WIW 1970 R/T Challenger 440 4spd 410 Dana [Re: mpt] #3184730
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Here are some images of the car in 1978.. Like you said Cragars and Fat Meats out back.. You know I think it even had thrush mufflers on it...

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Re: WIW 1970 R/T Challenger 440 4spd 410 Dana [Re: A990] #3184775
10/18/23 10:38 AM
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Serious question-
What would this car bring if it was restored to OE Gold level status by some bored money-is-no-object collector?
-1 No buildsheet because LA assembly
-2 Wrong block

Would it hit 6 figures?
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I think the restored value is 70 to 80. The burnt orange interior and wrong motor will hold it back. Even at 40k the math doesn't work out if you do the restoration yourself. As is probably 40-45k

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Re: WIW 1970 R/T Challenger 440 4spd 410 Dana [Re: mpt] #3184803
10/18/23 12:14 PM
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I don't follow E bodies


But the biggest problem I see is the crowd who wants it is getting old.

Imo. Projects are a very hard sell unless dirt cheap in today's market

Re: WIW 1970 R/T Challenger 440 4spd 410 Dana [Re: gtx6970] #3184828
10/18/23 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by gtx6970
I don't follow E bodies


But the biggest problem I see is the crowd who wants it is getting old.

Imo. Projects are a very hard sell unless dirt cheap in today's market


I saw this happen to 57 Chevies. When I was a kid they were selling for $30k Challengers were $500 to $3500.

The people with money were older and could afford the cars the wanted as a kid. As they died off the prices for the 57 Chevies stagnated as their cars were sold by their kids for less and less just to get rid of them. Challengers skyrocketed in price.

Right now there are several 57 Chevies around in good condition in the $30 to $40K range because the people that want them are disappearing fast. Challengers are starting to drop in price now.

Some will say they aren't dropping but when they were worth $40K a few years ago when bread was $2 and a Hyundai was $25K Now bread is $4 and Hyundai's are $80K and that same Challenger is around $40 to $50K it is effectively a price drop. IMHO

As for the Challenger above it is out of my price range but I would love to have it. Fender flares and all.

IF money was no object for me and it was relatively rust free I would go $50K but I may be off the market price. shruggy

Re: WIW 1970 R/T Challenger 440 4spd 410 Dana [Re: IMGTX] #3184829
10/18/23 01:13 PM
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For every guy who says its too high there is always the next guy with money to burn. Its always been this way. Ive never lucked into a good car in the last 25 years or so its been always pay for the right car or the next guy will. 1980 was a long time ago when we used to buy these for very little. Not new info here though.

With all here with newer SRT-s how much value dropped the first day off the lot with that first mile? .... money to burn.


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Re: WIW 1970 R/T Challenger 440 4spd 410 Dana [Re: biggE] #3184846
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Re: WIW 1970 R/T Challenger 440 4spd 410 Dana [Re: A990] #3184893
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I agree with the 40k number as is. U code 440 Magnum cars seem to have fallen through the cracks as far as values are concerned. The should be right in the middle between a 383 car and a 440 Sixpack car, but they are closer in value to a 383 car than a V code 440 Sixpack car. The 4 speed and 4.10 Dana are a big plus, but the interior and exterior colors, ,non matching engine,as well as the mods will hold the car back. 40k still isn't bad for a non matching car that needs restoration.

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Re: WIW 1970 R/T Challenger 440 4spd 410 Dana [Re: wmdj5] #3185123
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Originally Posted by wmdj5
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Running and driving, $40k and I have two buyers lined up for it.


Yeah, I bet there are 2 buyers lined up for it a 40K!
I bet there are a whole lot more! Hell, I'd be in line at $40K!

I'm thinking a bit higher. I wouldn't be surprised by 60s or 70s.
Sorry, a running driving E body 4 spd Dana U code?
Yeah, a lot more than 40.




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Re: WIW 1970 R/T Challenger 440 4spd 410 Dana [Re: migsBIG] #3185282
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Re: WIW 1970 R/T Challenger 440 4spd 410 Dana [Re: MONC] #3185372
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Originally Posted by MONC


Thats a pretty nice looking car from the photos.
Its been for sale for a while at 75K
What do you think you would have in the OP's car to get it to the level of the Blue car..........

Re: WIW 1970 R/T Challenger 440 4spd 410 Dana [Re: Matt M] #3185457
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Originally Posted by Matt M
Originally Posted by MONC


Thats a pretty nice looking car from the photos.
Its been for sale for a while at 75K
What do you think you would have in the OP's car to get it to the level of the Blue car..........




A lot more time and $ than I would spend that's for sure.
Easier to buy a nicely done car, enjoy it now, and IMO in a better color.


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Re: WIW 1970 R/T Challenger 440 4spd 410 Dana [Re: MONC] #3185497
10/21/23 01:44 PM
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That B7 car was mine and I restored it.
I would happily buy it back if I could/had space!
Very nice car.
I sold it in the early 2000’s, but the past 2 owners have been very good to it.

Re: WIW 1970 R/T Challenger 440 4spd 410 Dana [Re: gtx6970] #3185584
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Originally Posted by gtx6970
I don't follow E bodies


But the biggest problem I see is the crowd who wants it is getting old.

Imo. Projects are a very hard sell unless dirt cheap in today's market


The last 11 cars I sold in the past two years went to people 19-35 years old. In fact, I wish I had more project cars because a lot of kids want to build stuff recently. I get a lot of youngest calling for parts and tech, which I am glad to help out.

Re: WIW 1970 R/T Challenger 440 4spd 410 Dana [Re: RP's R/T's] #3185636
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Originally Posted by RP's R/T's
That B7 car was mine and I restored it.
I would happily buy it back if I could/had space!
Very nice car.
I sold it in the early 2000’s, but the past 2 owners have been very good to it.


Nice job on the resto.
How involved was it? A total basket case or a clean car to start?


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Re: WIW 1970 R/T Challenger 440 4spd 410 Dana [Re: migsBIG] #3186207
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Originally Posted by migsBIG
Originally Posted by wmdj5
Originally Posted by migsBIG
Running and driving, $40k and I have two buyers lined up for it.


Yeah, I bet there are 2 buyers lined up for it a 40K!
I bet there are a whole lot more! Hell, I'd be in line at $40K!

I'm thinking a bit higher. I wouldn't be surprised by 60s or 70s.
Sorry, a running driving E body 4 spd Dana U code?
Yeah, a lot more than 40.




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You are correct! No argument from me!
Trying to figure values on this old stuff is worse than herding cats! up

Re: WIW 1970 R/T Challenger 440 4spd 410 Dana [Re: wmdj5] #3186355
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"You are correct! No argument from me!
Trying to figure values on this old stuff is worse than herding cats! "

Agreed! Especially in the last few years.
Prices are all over the place.


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