Ok, boys, Anyone know this car by chance?


Pick it apart - https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/plymouth/satellite/2712124.html

Its at a dealer. I don't need to see anymore .

Dodge dog dish hub caps on a Plymouth?

Lots of not mopar high knowledgeable errors.

But something to really consider is what looks like a water stain on the rear portion of the headliner. Maybe rear window seal? But was this car left outside in rain? Or was it in high moisture environment.

I kind of wondered if they could've gotten more foam on the drivers lower seat cushion

I've gone over it a few times.

A local guy here is interested.

And most of what I see is minor restoration errors .mainly stuff painted over.


99% of which are easy to correct.

I've told this guy be prepared to spend $1000 on any car he buys to fix details.

What is the deal with the 'stain' on the ceiling? I would think fixing that correctly would be more than $1K alone

Almost looks like mold!!!

Yes, my worry is was some sort of very high moisture environment (dripping garage, partial flooding, etc).

That have a bunch of hidden deep down issues.

I'd take one of those endoscope cameras and look behind rear seat, quarter panels, inside holes in frame rails.

And take real close with high quality close up pictures around inside and outside of rear window gasket. Then blow them up on computer screen to see if there are traces of leakage or rust.

Also flash pictures from under the dash looking up into it. You can see rust from moisture buried under the dash frame area. There's always some flash rust. But looking for heavy fresh rust.

Yes, gas cap is on upside down, forget it

Not to mention....even wrong color

The dealer is in Montreal. Does your buyer really want to deal with the hassle of getting a car from there? Surely, there is a 66-67 hemi car for sale in this country, which would make things less complicated.

I have found most guys that have money just buy they car they want and worry later.
If they have big car $ they have the $ to pay to fix it.

Agreed, But this particular car cks all of this mans boxes. He wants real hemi, real 4spd 66-67 Plymouth B body.
Plus its in his reach budget wise . After looking for nearly a year. He had even resolved to the notion to just buy a clone. Or a very very nice 440 4spd 67 GTX if something came up.
But even they are $50k or more which was his original budget and he has decided to raise the budget a tad. But $75k is absolute top dollar So that puts this car within reach

He was told approximately $3200 - $3500 all in to get it across the border and delivered to Southern AZ



There is a 66 Coronet in Phoenix he may call on. But its asking $81k , and its a Dodge and an auto. neither of which is high on the desirability list. But its close and he is considering a ride up to take a look. And maybe see what its actually going to take to buy it.

That seems low for the distance involved, not to mention the processing at the border.

The same dealer has this 67 Hemi GTX listed:

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/plymouth/gtx/2016668.html

The copper one is $125k meanwhile the red one is $75k. There's a reason or reasons, there's a $50k difference.

I realize your friend is looking for a 4-speed so that rules out the copper one but there's more to the story with the red one.

Mike.

He likes the copper/copper 67 GTX A LOT. But no way can / or will he write that ck.

C'mon, a quick trip to Montreal for your friend and yourself to check out both cars...

That copper X has the wrong speedometer housing.

Would be nice Mike, But dont see that happening now


Just got off the phone with a former owner of the Satellite.

My recommendation will be take the car is off the list.
Decent car , is real but he feels a weak driver at best. But its fast . But typical of a 30 year old refurbishment , Basically a lower quality single stage paint. Some interior work back then to a decent car.
Lifelong Canadian car so it most likely has issues on the bottom side. And he feels every piece of trim needs redone / replaced. And thats expensive on these cars

Better double that and add a zero unless he's doing it all himself even the it could be 20K

I was at a recent car show here in Michigan (Frankenmuth, MI) which has turned into a huge show. Saw at least two (think it was actually three) '66-'67 Hemi Coronets there alone. One was an all original one from Canada that the guy had brought to the show. Super low miles, all original paint. Talked to the guy for a while (I would guess in his 70's) and he said he has more at home in Canada. Is it really that hard to find one of these?

Issue is finding a solid clean car that reasonable money AND still in his price range. And still ck a lot of the boxes this man wants for options.
This Satellite cks just about ALL his want boxes , for options , color , price etc etc

I talked to a previous owner of the Satellite last nite and he verified the car is real, believed to be all original drivetrain. But its an older build. He feels like most of the trim needs replaced or professionally redone at a minimum. The paint is at least 30 years old and is showing its age in person. Thus feels its a mid $50s price point car at best . He wasnt aware of any stains in the headliner so thats remains an unknown. And its probably been 5 years or more since he has seen the car in person. So a lot can change in the time.



I have him thinking about a semi local Hemi Coronet. It just isn't the ideal car. ,,,,,, BUT might ck enough boxes to allow him to scratch the hemi car itch.

As always, each and every car stands( or doesn’t stand) on its own merit.
For sale by private party doesn’t make it a good car, nor does by dealer make it a bad car.
Any expensive old car should be checked out by a 3rd party qualified to do so.
As a dealer myself, with an excellent reputation, I kinda get sick of people throwing a stupid blanket statement like the above out there.
Anybody who personally knows me, wouldn’t question my integrity, why question someone else’s you likely know nothing about.

Everyone is allowed an opinion. I stand by mine.

Last two Mopars I have bought( and at 68 years old I have had many, starting with a 69 GTS I bought as a junior in high school in 1972) were both from private parties.
71 Duster I bought, guy told me it had a 340 in it, it didn’t, had a 318. In fairness to him, I don’t think he knew. It was represented to him as having a 340 in it when he purchased it at Carlisle several years before I bought it from him.
And my current car( I will die with this one) guy told me it had a 340 stroker in it. It didn’t, stock stroke 360 was in it. And he was most definitely a liar.
Again, every car, no matter who has it, needs looked at by someone the potential buyer trusts. If it checks out as a good car, it’s a good car, if it doesn’t, it doesn’t. It’s pretty simple really.

My experience has been the performance car dealers sell on consignment and jack the prices way up. If you don't you are one of the few.

I have nothing to do with performance cars, we are a Subaru specialist..lol
Regards consignment dealers, often times( but certainly not always) the reason prices are out of line can be because the consigned is overly proud of what he has, price wise.
As the dealer has no money tied up in a consignment, they do try to make it worthwhile to fool with. If it sits around and rots no skin in the game
It’s makes one wonder why such people don’t try to get rid of cars they overprice themselves.
Sometimes, I think such dealers should pass on such cars that don’t have any valid meat left on the bone.

You may be an exception to the rule but Classic car dealers in general have a bad rep and I've seen many examples of why in the last 20 -25 years. All were overpriced and several not even safe to be driven on public roads due to rusted frames/unibody and a multitude of other reasons etc.
You ask why people don't sell it themselves?
1. Because they know its a POS and don't want any comebacks. This is also why many are sold through auctions.
2. They consignors make outrageous claims on the cars value
3. They don't want to be bothered with listing, calls, emails etc.
Attached are a few pic's of a unibody structure that was Bondo'ed over and covered with bedliner material. Another had duct tape over the hole(s) covered again with bedliner spray bomb. The real favorite is thick undercoating
My hat's off to you for being legit but I'll bet the cars you sell are not the norm.

I don't care if its dealer or private seller.
All can sell junk. All can sell top shelf stuff ( pun intended)


If either one has the car I want . I'm a potential buyer if price is right