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End of the line for the very last 100% Chrysler vehicle #3173733
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Re: End of the line for the very last 100% Chrysler vehicle [Re: ZIPPY] #3173736
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I dunno, the metrics listed for the new tank seem hard to balance.

Better economy, probably a hybrid. Ok, what will the weight of the power train system be? more or less? Probably more with the added electrical generation and storage. Probably going to cut into fuel storage as well.

Silent running in electrical mode? Yeah, treads aren't quiet and has a unique sound that screams "tank" on the battle field. I imagine they don't clank around like a Sherman tank, but the Pattons I am more familiar with aren't exactly stealthy sound wise. Yeah, the Corps was still using Pattons when I was in.

Less weight? Hmm, that must mean less armor, less ammo, less something because the power train isn't going on a diet. Bet they cut the manning numbers forgetting that tanks need regular maintenance and the bodies to do it.

Better protection, well how is that going to happen with the less weight/better economy desires? There is a limit to how cleverly you can sculpt the body to deflect blasts and such. Last I looked we were already using the best armor available and I haven't heard of any magic elvish armor that is less heavy and protects better?

Who knows, the article is seriously short on any details.

Maybe they will be drone tanks, remotely controlled.

Re: End of the line for the very last 100% Chrysler vehicle [Re: ZIPPY] #3173781
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that's gonna cost us some $$$$$ Wonder which company will get the contract (UHH BONEUS) ??? 🤑🤑 Hmm maybe they could have it made in china ???

Hope this humor isn't too political. If so please delete or move wink

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The tank project may be more closely watched than the littoral ships fiasco was; in this case, the “leaking cracked ships” are being built, repaired, and scrapped in record time (the latest took just four years from launch to scrapping, including time spent repairing the combining gear, an $8 million process).

Re: End of the line for the very last 100% Chrysler vehicle [Re: ZIPPY] #3173840
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A new tank does need to drop from 78 tons to the 58 tons that our military cargo aircraft can transport across an ocean.

But ... I cannot see how they are ever going to be able to design a new tank that a Javelin type missile cannot destroy,
or a low cost tank land mine cannot disable or flip over.

Re: End of the line for the very last 100% Chrysler vehicle [Re: 360view] #3173881
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Originally Posted by 360view
A new tank does need to drop from 78 tons to the 58 tons that our military cargo aircraft can transport across an ocean.

But ... I cannot see how they are ever going to be able to design a new tank that a Javelin type missile cannot destroy,
or a low cost tank land mine cannot disable or flip over.


Left to some of these "visionary" people in the military, even cargo transport won't suffice.
They'll want a Tank with Wings, to fly itself anywhere.
Doubt we'll see another Persian Gulf War tank battle in the future.
So why design a weapon that'll be obsolete, or have limited use.
There has to be a ceiling put on military spending in this country.
The cost to design/produce/maintain these weapons are becoming stratospheric.

Re: End of the line for the very last 100% Chrysler vehicle [Re: PhillyRag] #3173900
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Originally Posted by PhillyRag
Left to some of these "visionary" people in the military, even cargo transport won't suffice.
They'll want a Tank with Wings, to fly itself anywhere.
Doubt we'll see another Persian Gulf War tank battle in the future.
So why design a weapon that'll be obsolete, or have limited use.
There has to be a ceiling put on military spending in this country.
The cost to design/produce/maintain these weapons are becoming stratospheric.

iagree especially when they don't do what they are contracted to do twocents

Re: End of the line for the very last 100% Chrysler vehicle [Re: TJP] #3173921
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Maybe they’re ‘designed’ to be left in the opposing forces hands so they go bankrupt instead, like the last withdrawal

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Re: End of the line for the very last 100% Chrysler vehicle [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #3174053
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Re: End of the line for the very last 100% Chrysler vehicle [Re: 360view] #3174146
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Perhaps the “APS” systems will get good enough that thin metal that can only stop bullets can be used.

Without doubt, all the types of offensive drones that are being improvised now have to have countermeasures designed.

Perhaps future maned tanks will be like mobile “beehives”
with a cloud of protective drones swarming around above them,
and V shaped bottoms to deflect mines below.







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