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which rear end to choose #316923
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Ok here is the scenerio.

My father has a 69 coronet 2 door currently with a 4bbl 318. The rear is a 7-1/4 (I believe, need to double check).

I have a 4 door 69 coronet sunday cruiser with a 318 2bbl, but mine has the 8-3/4 rear.

My father is planning an upgrade to a 440 auto combo, so the 7-1/4 definately will need to be swapped out.

Originally I wanted to do a simple rear end swap with our two cars, but the 7-1/4 makes me a little leery of doing so.

Now, here is my question. We do have a 8-3/4 rear out of a chrysler station wagon that we could use in his coronet, but it will need to be slightly narrowed to stock width.

What kind of a shop will do this? When I call around, general answers are rebuilds, services, etc. But no narrowing really. Where do I need to look for this service? When I call the speed shops, all I get is stuff for "NOSS", big bling rims, low profile tires, and fart pipes for imports.

I wouldn't mind cutting the axles and housing down, but where to go? Or should I just do the swap between the two cars and see what happens?

suggestions, comments, etc?

Thanks in advance

eight

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Re: which rear end to choose [Re: eightlitermopar] #316924
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Look around for another B body 8 3/4, they can be bought cheap if you look around.

Re: which rear end to choose [Re: eightlitermopar] #316925
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Since yours is a 2bbl sunday cruiser I'd just swap yours for his. His 7&1/4 will be plenty adequate for what you have. If not Moser in Portland Indiana does narrowing/perch rewelding & maybe some offset rims would let the wagon 8&3/4 fit as is(except for the spring perch width probably needing to be changed). PS a 7&1/4 has 9 bolts(Some later ones MAY have 10) & if it's not a 7&1/4 thats even better


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Re: which rear end to choose [Re: RapidRobert] #316926
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7-1/4 in a B body? I never thought they came that way; (I could be wrong though) I woulda thunk an 8-1/4 would be the "weakest" they'd go there that the 7-1/4 was an "A body thing" in those days.

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Re: which rear end to choose [Re: volaredon] #316928
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Quote:

7-1/4 in a B body? I never thought they came that way; (I could be wrong though) I woulda thunk an 8-1/4 would be the "weakest" they'd go there that the 7-1/4 was an "A body thing" in those days.




never seen one either, either way if you swaped the two you'd be ok. If it were me I'd look for a b-body unit and get a set of gears that match your 440 set-up.

Re: which rear end to choose [Re: Mr.Yuck] #316929
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the all can hook you up with narrowing and resplining axle

or custom axle packages

would be easyer to find a housing

I have a couple diff one..how wide you need flange to flange on the housing

trucks are same as c-bodys

and there are early B-body and later b-body housing and station wagons

along with e-body which may fit

I am willing to bet you gots an 8 3/8 thats called an 8 1/4 most times

9 bolt in cover for 7 1/4
10 bolts on cover for 8 3/8 called 8 1/4
12 bolts on cover for 9 1/4 and cover is octogone shaped
12 bolt on cover D-60


Re: which rear end to choose [Re: scratchnfotraction] #316930
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I looked under the car yesterday after work, it appears to be an 8-1/4.

I doubt this is stock for this car but who knows?

Anyway, this should be sufficient for my 2bbl 318 sunday cruiser.

We'll see how it turns out

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Re: which rear end to choose [Re: eightlitermopar] #316931
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yes it would be stock for it

yes they would swap out and be fine

they 8 3/4 would be the one for a 440

so thats a good swap IMO

that 8 3/8 will hold up just fine with the 318 cruzer

you can beef it some with gears and a suregrip unit also

Re: which rear end to choose [Re: eightlitermopar] #316932
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The rear in the car is an 8 1/4, not 8 3/8- thats a later truck rear, since it's a 69 I would look for an 8.75 because you will need it anyways if anything fails in the 8.25 because there is nothing available for it 69-71 or so are different internally from the later ones and parts don't swap.

I found this out years ago with a 70 coronet I was working on, it was some highway special with a 383/727 and 2.76's in an 8.25, I was trying to help the guy build it on a budget and gave him the 3.55 sure grip out of my '73 Duster to swap in and it wasn't close to working.

If a stout 440 is going in I would skip the 8.75 and go with a Dana, it's stronger and about 1/2 the price of 8.75 stuff anymore.

Re: which rear end to choose [Re: MoparJoe] #316933
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A 1969 "B" body never came with a 7 1/4 rear. The 7 1/4 rear was strictly an "A" body rear The difference between a 7 1/4 and an 8 1/4 rear is easy to see. The 7 1/4 axles are held in by the 5 bolts on the brake backing plate, just like the 8 3/4 rear. The 8 1/4 rear axles are held in by "C" clips inside the rear end housing.

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I am sure that you realize an 8 3/4 rear is the "ham" rear, all other mopar rears have a back cover.

Re: which rear end to choose [Re: groundpoint6] #316935
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yes, i realize the 8-3/4 does not have a rear cover. I have rebuilt several.

my main question was about the other rear end and if it would work, I am not that familiar with the 8-1/4. I've learned a lot today, thats for sure.

If I ever come across an 8-3/4, I would swap that in a heartbeat, but for the time being and money being tight, I am looking for the cheapest option for the time being.

thanks!

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Re: which rear end to choose [Re: eightlitermopar] #316936
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didnt yours have an 8 3/4 and you are swaping your dad for the 8 1/4?

it would be fine and a bolt in swap if so

dont sweat it

Re: which rear end to choose [Re: scratchnfotraction] #316937
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first year of the 8.25 was '69, IIRC....


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