Re: 318 question High RPM Late model
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It could be done with the right 318 block. You need to have it sonic tested. Early blocks will be the thickest, I think they ended in 030 casting number and were produced from 67-71 or so. Another option if you wanted that bore stroke and main combo would be a poly 318 block with LA heads, they were very thick and have seen a few guys run them to 4.040 bore sucessfully, again get it sonic tested. Or another option would be a 360 with the crank turned down and spacers in the mains, but it would need very good bores to run at standard size. A 360 magnum block would be good for this purpose. A few years ago I had a bunch of 318s tested and only the early ones were any good, .030 wa about all I would have felt safe on the mid 70s and up blocks.
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Re: 318 question High RPM Late model
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how many cubes are you looking for? how much $$ do you want to spend? some other thoughts, .060 over 283 pistons are .025" over 318 bore. 6" rods, 283 pistons and a 360 crank make a near or 0 deck stroker 318 that would be 348 CID (352 if you found .080 over pistons)....
or use some low comp cast 318 pistons, 318 rods, and 360 crank for a similar displacement.
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Re: 318 question High RPM Late model
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well if you bore it to 4.0" and use a 360 crank you would have a 360,just use 360 pistons.
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Re: 318 question High RPM Late model
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again, what's the budget, displacement limit, and what kind of RPM are we talking?
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Re: 318 question High RPM Late model
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again, what's the budget, displacement limit, and what kind of RPM are we talking?
the budget is 3K ish, the displacement limit is 377, and the rpm is 77-85K depending on the track.
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Re: 318 question High RPM Late model
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I'm not a fan of spinning a cast 360 crank to 7500 let alone for long periods.
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Re: 318 question High RPM Late model
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I'm not a fan of spinning a cast 360 crank to 7500 let alone for long periods.
We arent either, we are accually gonna buy a Callies crank with 360 stroke, 340 mains. We dont want to run our 340 blocks as we really dont like possibly destroying good 340 stuff. We have 2 340 blocks, but have scattered one beyond repaire before, and had nasty dreams, and the mopar gods were very unkind to us for months for that, so a plentiful 318 is going to work. We dont want to run the crank spacers due to the high sustained RPM we will be holding.
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Re: 318 question High RPM Late model
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again, what's the budget, displacement limit, and what kind of RPM are we talking?
the budget is 3K ish, the displacement limit is 377, and the rpm is 77-85K depending on the track.
Kasey
what heads are yall going to run 7,700 to 8,500 is a bunch of rpm even with W-2s what kind of oil mods are yall planing
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Re: 318 question High RPM Late model
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anyone make a 3.79" stroke crank anymore? .030 over 318 w/a 3.79" is 370CID.....
with KB forged pistons for a 4" crank and 6.25" rods, you have a short block with the pistons .010 out of the hole, diamond forged will be .002 OOTH....
or on the cheap, using .060 over jeep 4L pistons (3.935", 1.58-1.592 CH and .931" pin) and 6.125" chev rods will net you a 0-.012 out of the hole short block....but they have a 13-18cc dish in them....
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Re: 318 question High RPM Late model
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I had a 4inch stroke 4 inch bore 68 318 ran real nice.
There is a guy on here with an even bigger bore bigger stroke 318 in his aspen.
If I was you I would just buy a steel crank for a 360 and put it in a 360, even .060 over will not be too many cubes. This will make more power because you valves will be less shrouded.
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Re: 318 question High RPM Late model
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i have a brand new in the box mopar 3.51" forged crank,i'll take $350.00 plus shipping
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Re: 318 question High RPM Late model
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I agree with dave, if you're limited to 3.58" stroke, you're better off using a 360. less valve shrouding....and if you only need 450-500 HP to be competitive, why do you need to buzz it to 7k+ RPM? why not build it for midrange power with a torque peak in the 4-4500 RPM range and a HP peak in the 5500-6000 range?
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