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Re: 426 hemi mpg what are you getting in yours [Re: 2Bad360sfromNC] #31587
10/17/06 07:52 PM
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Sunroof you sound like me.My 65 with the 440 gets about 3 MPG.That Dominator sure likes to suck gas.My thought is if you can afford a Hemi you can afford the gas.Worst part is with the 12.5 pistons I have to run at least 1/2 110 octane at over 5 bucks a gallon.But I didnt build it to see how much MPG I could get just HP.Rocky


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Re: 426 hemi mpg what are you getting in yours [Re: maxie] #31588
10/17/06 08:44 PM
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1969 Super Bee 3660 lbs

472 CI, 9.5 CR

Iron heads with bowl work flow 367 @ .700, 330 @ .400

Comp .557/.540 252 @ .050 With stock rockers,intake lift at valve is only .485"

JR 2" headers 3" exhaust with X pipe

MP Dual plane with cleanup and divider milled 5/8"

800 Holley DP with 68 primary jets and enlarged power valve channel restrictions

Ford EDIS distributorless ignition controlled by Megasquirt

Four speed/ Dana 3.54/ 295x50x15 Hoosier QT

On radial rear tires, the car consistently got 12-14 MPG during easy driving and ran mid twelves at 118. The switch to the QTs has dropped it about 1 MPG I've programmed the ignition for 42 degrees advance at light load cruise conditions. I didn't see any gain from the original 35 degrees. In spite of the reduced primary jet size, the O2 sensor shows the engine to still be rich at cruise, with inlet air temps running about 130-140 degrees. Once I've finished the EFI install, I expect to see a well tuned 14-15 MPG.

The Indy intake is probably hurting your mileage. I modeled it for my 472 on Engine Analyzer Pro and it really knocked the bottom out of the torque (and efficiency) in the 2500-2700 RPM cruise range. Still, with tuning, you should be able to increase your mileage significantly. Everyone has their opinion, but a fuel efficient Hemi is nothing to be ashamed of

Roger

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Re: 426 hemi mpg what are you getting in yours #31590
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Back in the day, around 73-74, my A12 sixpack SuperBee, got between 6-9 MPG on that 36 cents a gallon super.. Bout drove me broke feeding that thing...

Re: 426 hemi mpg what are you getting in yours [Re: maxie] #31591
10/17/06 11:00 PM
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426 70 Challenger auto 373's...easy pressure, crusing about 8-11 mpg. With foot in it, 3-4 & you can watch the needle sweep thru 1/8th of tank in one romp.

Re: 426 hemi mpg what are you getting in yours [Re: Triggerfish] #31592
10/18/06 12:00 PM
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426 hemi mpg what are you getting in yours






This is like somebody marrying a hot blonde and wondering why she doesn't cook or do any house work.

Dan

Re: 426 hemi mpg what are you getting in yours [Re: maxie] #31593
10/14/08 03:25 PM
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I have just under 225 miles on the car so far. I didnt build it for fuel economy, but I thought it would be better than what it is. I am getting between 7-8 mpg out of the car so far. How you others doing with yours.



Mine gets 5 to 8 MPG using premium.

Re: 426 hemi mpg what are you getting in yours [Re: michaelphbarnett] #31594
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Yeah mine gets no miles to no gallons


Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat
Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street
Re: 426 hemi mpg what are you getting in yours [Re: quickd100] #31595
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You guys will probably call me a liar but years ago when I move back here I drove my Hemi GTX back following my wife. She drove 55 to 60 and I never got out of the back 2 barrels. I got an honest 19mpg. I had a mild hydralic cam in it, quick advance curve in the distributer, 2" headers, 4-spd, 3.54 gears, and LR60-15's. That's the only time I ever drove it that nice, it about killed me. Dave




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Re: 426 hemi mpg what are you getting in yours #31596
10/14/08 04:48 PM
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You guys will probably call me a liar but years ago when I move back here I drove my Hemi GTX back following my wife. She drove 55 to 60 and I never got out of the back 2 barrels. I got an honest 19mpg. I had a mild hydralic cam in it, quick advance curve in the distributer, 2" headers, 4-spd, 3.54 gears, and LR60-15's. That's the only time I ever drove it that nice, it about killed me. Dave




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A fellow I know bought a new 69 RR 3.54 4 speed. Stone stock, never messed with it. He claimed that on a trip to CHicago he pulled down 17 mpg.

I never get that good cuz I have a lead foot. 9 - 10 mpg is about it for me.


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Re: 426 hemi mpg what are you getting in yours [Re: Hemi_Joel] #31597
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About 7 or 8 years ago I went on a 200 mile highway trip with my 69 Hemi GTX. As I was driving it became harder and harder to go up hills without it pinging. I finally made it to my destination and after checking it over, sure enough the timing had advanced to almost 50 degrees total. I got close to 20 MPG on that trip. Huge advance and having to featherfoot it on the hills does have it's advantages.

Sheldon

Re: 426 hemi mpg what are you getting in yours [Re: maxie] #31598
10/14/08 06:15 PM
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maybe 1/2 a tank of race fuel per 5 runs...

Lets see track 1/4 mile, 1/2 shut down, run thru pits round up to 1.5 mile...

~7.5 miles per 8 gallons, .9375 gallons per mile or 1.137 miles per gallon.



Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
Re: 426 hemi mpg what are you getting in yours [Re: HealthServices] #31599
10/14/08 06:42 PM
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Well you guys can call me a liar again. Labor day I drove my truck to a car show. Highway/city 13.18mpg, the LM-1 showed 14.2-1 A/F ratio most of the time. I could lean it out more but like to make sure it's safe.
528 Hemi, compression is 10.6-1, Weiand tunnel ram with 2 850+cfm Thermoquads, MP cam 272/274@.050, TA 10" converter, 4.56 gears, 31" tall tires. Timing 30 degrees at idle, 35 degrees@ 2000rpm Cruises at 3400rpm.
It's really hard to stay out of the throttle too. Dave

Re: 426 hemi mpg what are you getting in yours [Re: maxie] #31600
10/14/08 08:35 PM
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70 Hemi Challenger Automatic with 4;10 gears. 5 MPG aroud town. Many stop lights !


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Re: 426 hemi mpg what are you getting in yours [Re: doctor_mopar] #31601
10/14/08 11:40 PM
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I took my gtx on a 750mile round trip a few months ago and averaged 10 miles to the gallon driving 65-70mph. Engine is a 528 bored .060 so 542 cubic inches with a hyd cam 242/242@50 with stagev intake with 2 650 carbs and 354 gears. Years ago had a stock 426 in it with factory 1970 hyd cam and took the same trip and averaged 14mpg.

Re: 426 hemi mpg what are you getting in yours [Re: SCATPK] #31602
10/15/08 01:56 AM
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built a 426 a few months ago. car ended up pulling down right at 22 mpg on the highway. this was a new gen (third) hemi tho.
car made 610 at the wheel also...

for comparison sake

steve-o


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Re: 426 hemi mpg what are you getting in yours [Re: gremlinsteve] #31603
10/15/08 07:23 AM
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One of our guys(Frank Challinor)who owns the Copper Bandit 67 GTX,528 Hemi,single carb,3.73 gear.T/F.has put on 1700 miles the last few months and is adveraging 11 mpg.

Re: 426 hemi mpg what are you getting in yours [Re: B G Racing] #31604
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this may not be an apples to apples comparison. i have two cars, b-bodys, both with 440 6-paks, automatics, 3.23 rears. one car is a 69 r/t 272-.455 mopar came, stock exhaust and converter; it'll get around 15mpg on the highway. the other has an engle solid cam (238@.050-.510 lift), street hemi converter, big tti exhaust; it'll do a little over 14mpg. i run vacuum advance distributors and tailor them for driviability. i think the small center carb and vacuum distributors are a big help for mpg and also kept the engine cleaner. big carbs, single plane intakes and full centrifugal distributors wittle away at mpg.

Re: 426 hemi mpg what are you getting in yours [Re: lewtot184] #31605
10/15/08 02:03 PM
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I get 7-8mpg on my 484 Hemi, and I used to get 15mpg with my +0.030" 426 and different cam. It gets a lot worse if you step on it....

All with 4.10's and 31" tall tires and a tight 10" convertor.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: 426 hemi mpg what are you getting in yours [Re: maxie] #31606
10/15/08 02:12 PM
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426 siamese block
10.25 to 1 j and e piston
manely rods
eagle crank
426-2 indy intake
850 mighty demon
comp cams 508/519 235 at 50 mechanical cam
msd
2 1/8 hooker super comps
3 inch flowmaster exhaust
bowl and pocket work on the mopar aluminum heads
dana 60 with 3.54
4 speed
29.5x15.5x15 rear tire
2850-3000 rpm's at 70 mph
car weighs in at 3640 with a 1/2 tank




I have almost the identical set up. I have 10.7 to 1, stock intake and carbs, stock iron heads, but everything else the same. I get around 16-17MPG at 60-65ish. Around town it gets bad but the front carb seems to want to be open more frequently.


1959 Bugeye Sprite
1967 Charger Black L code
1967 Coronet R/T Convert Green 440 auto bought from original owner
1968 Charger R/T Bronze 440 4 spd console AM/FM
1969 Super Bee WM21H B5 A40 D21 N96
1969 Barracuda Formula S 340 Convert pilot car
1969 Hemi Road Runner RM23J D32 Omaha orange 4.10 Dana N96 N85
1970 Super Bee WM23N FE5 V1X 3.91 axle package, N96
1970 Road Runner RM21N B3 V1X D13
1971 MG Midget
1971 Road Runner RM23H GW3, A57
1972 Road Runner RM23P FY1, D21
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