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Re: Strange rivets [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #3124934
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Two high dollar cars, two “strange rivets.” Now why would that be?

Anybody remember Gone in Sixty Seconds? No, not that one. The first one. People were doing, uh, things, back in the day. Totally possible those things happened to a hemi roadrunner in 1970.


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Re: Strange rivets [Re: Sniper] #3124938
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Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by Rhinodart
Rivets have holes in the middle so the rivet gun can work correctly and move the ferrule up to crunch the rivet in place, those are not rivets... twocents


Guess you never heard of solid rivets? You statement is correct about POP rivets though.




Sorry I didn't specify POP which is what was used on ALL VIN tags. It obviously looks to me that the "rivets" were removed from the top side once, that explains the scratches around the "rivet". Who knows if it was done at the factory, but for sure those are NOT factory style "rivets"...

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Re: Strange rivets [Re: srt] #3124940
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Originally Posted by srt
Beside the "riviet".
Zoomed into the pic you posted, it appears the "rivet" may be smaller diameter than the scrapes?
Was the dash repainted and Tag reinstalled?
WTH is the hair or whatever to the left of "Rivet"?
Has the black field oxididized and been repainted?
I played around with filters on the pic in photo editor and is anyone seeing a digit "3" under the number 1?
Lastly should the tip of the pentastar be centered under the 5 digit?
I'm no vin expert yet have looked and many legit and learn a lot from what to watch out for on these pages.
It would be interesting to see the back side of the rivets.


Good catch. That 1 doesn’t look clean like the rest of the digits pictured. Would be interesting to see whole tag. The Pentastar on my car is centered under 5th digit. A 69 lynch rd car.


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Re: Strange rivets [Re: SomeCarGuy] #3124960
02/27/23 06:40 AM
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Factory? Not factory? It is indeed different than any other riveted VIN tag I've ever seen in this era. The only way this has a ghost of a chance of being resolved is a photo of the backside. And even then it may go unresolved.


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Re: Strange rivets [Re: 6PakBee] #3124981
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Re: Strange rivets [Re: roadrunninMark] #3124995
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Originally Posted by roadrunninMark
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How about broadcast sheets and fender tag availability to compare?
The pic posted leaves a lot of unknown.
My post and others are not questioning what you posted, just the anomalies observed.

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The Line worker has a special rivit gun. It runs off air has a compartment for the cast off metal post. The rivits are all attached to a Stickie flypaper type of holder that feeds into the rivit gun. You tear off one side of the paper and feed it into the gun. Now I have not seen every plant so did all plants use the same format to put the VIN on the dash.There is a very slight difference between General Motors and Chrysler Rivits, nothing physical except color on the posts once rivited to the dash.Never looked at Ford and how their VIN is attached. I believe the VIN rivits were mandated by the Government on all new Vehicles. Not sure the first year Chrysler used them but someone with a pre 1968 car could tell one more if their car had the flowery rivits.

It would be a pain in the butt ti change them now, not sure if there is enough room to fit a gun in between the window and the dash. So if no room your choice is pull the window or pull the dash.


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Re: Strange rivets [Re: hemicar1971] #3125006
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Both my 66s have the same rosette rivet.
But slightly larger and natural finish compared to the 68 and later cars

Re: Strange rivets [Re: gtx6970] #3125119
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Re: Strange rivets [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #3125147
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Originally Posted by Mr PotatoHead
Low vin a factor?

I see you posted about the different rims, an interesting tag on your car when you got it and replacing the rear end with a Dana from another bird.

Spill the beans.... special car?




how does a fender tag "Essentialy say Press Preview"? shruggy It either does or doesn't twocents

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Is the car the op has for sale there? I don’t have faceything.


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Re: Strange rivets [Re: SomeCarGuy] #3125186
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Originally Posted by SomeCarGuy


Is the car the op has for sale there? I don’t have faceything.


Someone selling the correct rivets in the FB link......

I'd be worried more about the fact that the OP's VIN tag looks altered. whistling


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Re: Strange rivets [Re: TJP] #3125187
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Well, let’s see if I can post a photo of the vin tag and wait for reactions.

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Re: Strange rivets [Re: robertop] #3125188
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That's a fender tag if I'm not mistaken and not like what the '69 Lynch Road Assembly production version would end up as. It looks like it has a Scheduled Production Date (SPD) of July 28, 1968 which would go along with the very low VIN and number in the lower right. Also there is no bend of the upper left corner of the tag which is correct for Lynch Road fender tags and unpainted mounting screws is correct also. The car should have black door buttons too. Pretty cool up up

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Mike: you are essentially correct! My tag was never bent and the number 960012 represents a sequence in the designation 96XXXX used for special cars.. The only incorrect thing is the fact that, back in the 70’s, I fell victim of the mania of the moment, i.e. I chrome plated the screws.

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This is in answer to member rbmopar who asked how I ended up with my car:apparently in a private reply you cannot post photos for some reason, so here I can do that. Here is a photo of my rr just after I bought it. Obviously I cannot say if the black stripes were a factory job or were added by the dealership.Interestingly, the hood vents are black, not red. I have a small rr book where the author claims that the first black stripes had black vents in 69, so that is that.

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Re: Strange rivets [Re: robertop] #3125951
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Originally Posted by robertop
Well, let’s see if I can post a photo of the vin tag and wait for reactions.


This looks like a 68 fender tag. I thought your car was a 69?

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Definitely not the standard V21 as there is no paint on the tops of the fenders.


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Originally Posted by NITROUSN
Originally Posted by robertop
Well, let’s see if I can post a photo of the vin tag and wait for reactions.


This looks like a 68 fender tag. I thought your car was a 69?


it is a 68 Fendertag and the car is a 69 , very odd , first time I have seen something like this , but I'll admit I haven't seen a lot .


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Re: Strange rivets II [Re: JohnRR] #3125960
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Yes, but the cowl panel is painted like a V21 car.
The car definitely has a story.

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