torque thrust wheel question
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i probably know the answer already, but has anyone used the original design torque thrust wheels with disc brakes ? i'm not a fan of the curved spokes used on the torque thrust D. could a spacer be used ? if so, how thick would be safe ? longer wheel studs would be a must, of course.
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Re: torque thrust wheel question
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Not all wheels require caliper clearance, but you should pull a wheel off your car and see where the caliper sits in relation to the wheel mounting surface so you know before buying anything. American Racing has straight spoke wheels, but not near as common as the D wheels. https://www.americanracing.com/american-racing-vintage-tt-oAlso ET makes straight 5 spoke mags, but they do cost more than the American Wheels.
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Re: torque thrust wheel question
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MoparX, Some aluminum Americans will clear, some will not. Can't really generalize. There are some American lookalikes in aluminum that will clear. I have not found an American in magnesium yet that will clear disc brakes. These are all straight spoke, or "D-spoke", wheels.
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Sometimes the clearance is pretty close, a little grinding on the caliper or on the back of wheel will work, or just a thin spacer, maybe 1/4-inch.
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Re: torque thrust wheel question
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I have been running 15" Torque-Thrusts' for almost 20 years on my RoadRunner with disc brakes from a 73 A body... No clearance problems.. Just my $0.02...
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Re: torque thrust wheel question
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I love the wheels, but can't hardly ever find them in a 4-1/2 bolt pattern or they always have some goofy back spacing that is never enough Don't run them with any kind of power or with slicks. It will break the spokes..
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Re: torque thrust wheel question
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i probably know the answer already, but has anyone used the original design torque thrust wheels with disc brakes ? i'm not a fan of the curved spokes used on the torque thrust D. could a spacer be used ? if so, how thick would be safe ? longer wheel studs would be a must, of course. [/b]
GEEZ, Simple solution. dump the disc's and put drums on 🤪🤣🤣. Back in the day many cars ran them with discs. The answer will be how far the calipers hang outwards of the wheel mounting surface, and whether the back of the spokes are flush to that wheel mounting surface. I think you may find most are not for the exact reason you are concerned about. Attached s a pic of a 60's torque thrust wheel showing reliefs I would assume were for caliper clearance
[b]EDIT:Also on the spacers, I'm not a fan of them even with longer wheel studs as it just adds more leverage on the studs
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Re: torque thrust wheel question
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My 66 satellite has vintage torque thrusts on it. And. Added 73 and up A body disc brakes. And I have no interference issues
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Re: torque thrust wheel question
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thanks all. i was looking for real world experience, so i feel more comfortable now. my charger needs new shoes, so now is the time to swap out the wheels. i have been looking at 5 spoke offerings from rocket, american, et 3, and cragar, as well as "generic" brands. whatever i decide, they have to be direct bolt pattern, no uni-lug stuff. i was kind of surprised it was stated not to use slicks because they would break the spokes. back when our cars were "new" lots of guys were using slicks with 5 spoke wheels, and i don't remember any problems with spinning the spokes out of those wheels. what has changed ? material ? construction/manufacturing processes ? probably "country of origin"...........
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Re: torque thrust wheel question
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What changed ? Probably power ! DVW cracked the spokes in his 200-S Americans awhile back, but that's a very stout piece that I think is in the 8s. FWIW I had 200-S wheels on a Z28 that I used for attacking teh SoCal canyons, never had an issue, but back in the day apparently the '69 Mustang TA cars had cracking issues with their Americans. We ran a similar wheel on a Vintage TA car with no issues, but IIRC those weren't Americans but a spendy reproduction race wheel.
I just recalled that I had an old set of "mags" that lppked like straight-spoke TTs on a '63 Savoy with drums - they fit fine when I converted to discs. That kit (not Scarebird, don't recall the actual maker) used GM calipers. I don't recall much if any cut-away on the backside of the spokes, so that may be less-than-helpful info... That said, as I recall, the Ds with curved spokes were made to clear Vette disc brakes...that memory being from 50 years ago...
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Re: torque thrust wheel question
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Re: torque thrust wheel question
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