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Re: Another Kablooey 727 [Re: larrymopar360] #3120605
02/11/23 01:53 AM
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The owners lack of basic wiring knowledge tells me everything I need to know. Accident on its way to happening.

Re: Another Kablooey 727 [Re: nss guy] #3120622
02/11/23 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by nss guy
Broke sprag last September due to a worn out transmission case. Very fortunate I have a A&A aluminum drum, or it could have been catastrophic. Went right to the Rev limiter 6700. Dummy me tried it again on return road.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=WdgwaO7IK9I&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE


I broke a case like that once. I was 18 and flying along manually shifting my moms fury and went from 2nd straight into reverse at about 50 mph, we drove the car like that for another year or so. I didn't know it was broke till I decided to take the trans apart after parting the car to see what the inside of an automatic trans looked like and when I flipped the case upside down the rear race, and part of the case, fell out onto the bench ...

Those bolt in sprags like you have there are only good for one thing , fixing a case where the outer race won't stay it , other than that complete waste of money because it won't stop what happened there the sprag rolling over.


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Re: Another Kablooey 727 [Re: JohnRR] #3120646
02/11/23 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnRR
Originally Posted by nss guy
Broke sprag last September due to a worn out transmission case. Very fortunate I have a A&A aluminum drum, or it could have been catastrophic. Went right to the Rev limiter 6700. Dummy me tried it again on return road.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=WdgwaO7IK9I&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE


I broke a case like that once. I was 18 and flying along manually shifting my moms fury and went from 2nd straight into reverse at about 50 mph, we drove the car like that for another year or so. I didn't know it was broke till I decided to take the trans apart after parting the car to see what the inside of an automatic trans looked like and when I flipped the case upside down the rear race, and part of the case, fell out onto the bench ...

Those bolt in sprags like you have there are only good for one thing , fixing a case where the outer race won't stay it , other than that complete waste of money because it won't stop what happened there the sprag rolling over.


Actually the biggest benefit of a bolt in ORC is to keep the cam tight in the case and keep the ramps, rollers and race parallel to the axis of the unit.
Another reason why the 904/998/999 units fail the orc much less, the cams are all riveted in.

Re: Another Kablooey 727 [Re: JohnRR] #3120754
02/11/23 07:21 PM
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Didn't break the case, no fluid leaking. case was just worn out in the sprag area from rebuilds and replacements over 20+ years. Several rearend failures, 8 3/4 then finally a dana 60. Probably over 2000 passes. Biggest thing was I had a an aluminum drum that prevented any catastrophic explosions.

Re: Another Kablooey 727 [Re: nss guy] #3120758
02/11/23 07:39 PM
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I didn't watch the video, anything UT is involved is a cluster fork. I've done some pretty stupid stuff with a 727 when I was young and never exploded one. I do have a LBA trans brake and a steel drum in my current one.

Re: Another Kablooey 727 [Re: justinp61] #3120871
02/12/23 10:56 AM
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I like Uncle Tony. I have to sigh when I see certain things. I don't know who placed the steel tools on the beautiful red paint on that Cobra kit car but I bet it was Tony. Hess not accustomed to working on beautifully painted cars. His flicking his cigarette but on to the ground made me sigh too. But he has fantastic knowledge that's easy to dismiss because of his appearance. His early videos on low budget engine/car setups and their proven unreliability- while good hearted miss the mark with most viewers.


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Re: Another Kablooey 727 [Re: 2boltmain] #3121062
02/13/23 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 2boltmain
I like Uncle Tony. I have to sigh when I see certain things. I don't know who placed the steel tools on the beautiful red paint on that Cobra kit car but I bet it was Tony. Hess not accustomed to working on beautifully painted cars. His flicking his cigarette but on to the ground made me sigh too. But he has fantastic knowledge that's easy to dismiss because of his appearance. His early videos on low budget engine/car setups and their proven unreliability- while good hearted miss the mark with most viewers.


Just watch an episode of Bad Chad on YouTube. His metalworking makes blacksmithing look hi tech. No offense to blacksmiths.

Uncle Tony is Formula 1 by comparison.

Kevin

Re: Another Kablooey 727 [Re: Twostick] #3121083
02/13/23 09:15 AM
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Tony is a hack IMHO.

This is who I think of when I see Chad. LOL

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Re: Another Kablooey 727 [Re: Blusmbl] #3121491
02/14/23 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Blusmbl
Originally Posted by JohnRR
Billet front drum is a must , and an A+A SUPER Sprag , it has more rollers and can't easily be rolled over , if at all.


Awesome, thanks. I need to start ordering parts. I assume the higher the rpm that it lets go in 1st gear, the worse the shrapnel is!

Also agree, there is no way that was staged. And, at least Tony offered to help him rebuild his spare or use a trans he had in the shop.


Makes me happy with my choice of automatic...

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Re: Another Kablooey 727 [Re: JERICOGTX] #3121662
02/15/23 07:15 AM
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Yea my trans broke!

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Re: Another Kablooey 727 [Re: JERICOGTX] #3121673
02/15/23 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JERICOGTX

Makes me happy with my choice of automatic...


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I always get a kick out of that pic. And totally makes me miss the V-gate I had in the Charger!


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Re: Another Kablooey 727 [Re: JERICOGTX] #3121919
02/15/23 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
Originally Posted by Blusmbl
Originally Posted by JohnRR
Billet front drum is a must , and an A+A SUPER Sprag , it has more rollers and can't easily be rolled over , if at all.


Awesome, thanks. I need to start ordering parts. I assume the higher the rpm that it lets go in 1st gear, the worse the shrapnel is!

Also agree, there is no way that was staged. And, at least Tony offered to help him rebuild his spare or use a trans he had in the shop.


Makes me happy with my choice of automatic...

That thing looks like it was made to remove fingers, love my pushbuttons.

Re: Another Kablooey 727 [Re: Scully] #3121947
02/16/23 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Scully
Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
Originally Posted by Blusmbl
Originally Posted by JohnRR
Billet front drum is a must , and an A+A SUPER Sprag , it has more rollers and can't easily be rolled over , if at all.


Awesome, thanks. I need to start ordering parts. I assume the higher the rpm that it lets go in 1st gear, the worse the shrapnel is!

Also agree, there is no way that was staged. And, at least Tony offered to help him rebuild his spare or use a trans he had in the shop.


Makes me happy with my choice of automatic...

That thing looks like it was made to remove fingers, love my pushbuttons.


Your'e holding it wrong if it removes a finger...


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Re: Another Kablooey 727 [Re: JERICOGTX] #3122085
02/16/23 03:23 PM
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which "finger" does it remove ? biggrin
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