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Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction #3109707
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Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction [Re: theraif] #3109716
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I dont think a stock hemi challenger owned by a cop was much of a street race threat during that era in the motor city, but whatever. Not surprised its for sale after all the phony hype whistling

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Originally Posted by Dart 500
I dont think a stock hemi challenger owned by a cop was much of a street race threat during that era in the motor city, but whatever. Not surprised its for sale after all the phony hype whistling


Correct....BUT, best to strike while all of the hype still exists and they can make as much as possible.


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Originally Posted by Dart 500
I dont think a stock hemi challenger owned by a cop was much of a street race threat during that era in the motor city, but whatever. Not surprised its for sale after all the phony hype whistling


The hype is ridiculous! That car was a high 13 second piece on a good day.


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The whole story and all involved was the right story at the right time for some involved.

The car is great with a great history but to me its sad to see family sell off family but we see all too often the "I will never sell" turn into "SOLD".


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Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction [Re: justinp61] #3109789
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Agree - the Challenger in Detroit I remember was the red one that was actually fast. Can't recall the guy's name, but the car was about half-Pro-Stock...
This car I think was more about the story, never heard of it until the PR barrage started a while back.
The sentiment is more about the value than the history, I suppose, but it does make sense to "strike while the iron's hot".
One might wonder if the hype wasn't started by Someone in Dodge's PR department...

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I'd give my left and right nuts for that. But I bet it goes for more. I don't care about the story. I just love a 70 Challenger, Hemi 4 speed, gator top in black. Yes Please!!!

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Originally Posted by topside
Agree - the Challenger in Detroit I remember was the red one that was actually fast. Can't recall the guy's name, but the car was about half-Pro-Stock...
This car I think was more about the story, never heard of it until the PR barrage started a while back.
The sentiment is more about the value than the history, I suppose, but it does make sense to "strike while the iron's hot".
One might wonder if the hype wasn't started by Someone in Dodge's PR department...


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What a shame it is to hear about this. I wonder why he is selling, maybe financial issues? maybe he did what he wanted and got it recognized and had his fun with it and it's time to move on?? It's really sad for me to see though, I love this car. I bet y'all his father is NOT happy looking down at him right now. I'm actually really anxious to see what it sells for as I saw a 1970 HEMI Cuda sell for $250,000 recently at Mecum, but this car is totally different with it's history and significance so I say more. I'm gonna throw my hat in the ring and say $375,000. I hope someone here posts what it sells for......


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https://www.hagerty.com/media/news/...allenger-up-for-sale-by-original-family/

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/auction-black-ghost-dodge-challenger/


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Originally Posted by Mr PotatoHead
The whole story and all involved was the right story at the right time for some involved.

The car is great with a great history but to me its sad to see family sell off family but we see all too often the "I will never sell" turn into "SOLD".


Why not? You can't Eat It, can't Wear It, nor even have the family Live-In-It.
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Originally Posted by GY3
Originally Posted by Dart 500
I dont think a stock hemi challenger owned by a cop was much of a street race threat during that era in the motor city, but whatever. Not surprised its for sale after all the phony hype whistling


The hype is ridiculous! That car was a high 13 second piece on a good day.


I wasn't alive in the 70s but I'd imagine that would be considered plenty fast for that era street car, no,?

I would guess the son wasn't a die-hard hobbyist and the novelty wore off quickly. These cars don't exactly meet modern day driving expectations.


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Worst part was having to listen to Chris Jacobs talk about it


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Originally Posted by GY3
Originally Posted by Dart 500
I dont think a stock hemi challenger owned by a cop was much of a street race threat during that era in the motor city, but whatever. Not surprised its for sale after all the phony hype whistling


The hype is ridiculous! That car was a high 13 second piece on a good day.


If there is any truth to how much he won with this car, I've always wondered how much it had to do with the owner being a cop? How many guys didn't want to get a bunch of crap from him when he was ON duty the next day?

No disrespect intended, just something I wondered about.


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Originally Posted by SportFuryS/23383
What a shame it is to hear about this. I wonder why he is selling, maybe financial issues? maybe he did what he wanted and got it recognized and had his fun with it and it's time to move on?? It's really sad for me to see though, I love this car. I bet y'all his father is NOT happy looking down at him right now. I'm actually really anxious to see what it sells for as I saw a 1970 HEMI Cuda sell for $250,000 recently at Mecum, but this car is totally different with it's history and significance so I say more. I'm gonna throw my hat in the ring and say $375,000. I hope someone here posts what it sells for......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bPaEFVtjNk


https://www.hagerty.com/media/news/...allenger-up-for-sale-by-original-family/

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/auction-black-ghost-dodge-challenger/


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Originally Posted by topside
Agree - the Challenger in Detroit I remember was the red one that was actually fast. Can't recall the guy's name, but the car was about half-Pro-Stock...
This car I think was more about the story, never heard of it until the PR barrage started a while back.
The sentiment is more about the value than the history, I suppose, but it does make sense to "strike while the iron's hot".
One might wonder if the hype wasn't started by Someone in Dodge's PR department...


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Originally Posted by gtx6970
Originally Posted by topside
Agree - the Challenger in Detroit I remember was the red one that was actually fast. Can't recall the guy's name, but the car was about half-Pro-Stock...
This car I think was more about the story, never heard of it until the PR barrage started a while back.
The sentiment is more about the value than the history, I suppose, but it does make sense to "strike while the iron's hot".
One might wonder if the hype wasn't started by Someone in Dodge's PR department...


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Originally Posted by A39Coronet
Originally Posted by GY3
Originally Posted by Dart 500
I dont think a stock hemi challenger owned by a cop was much of a street race threat during that era in the motor city, but whatever. Not surprised its for sale after all the phony hype whistling


The hype is ridiculous! That car was a high 13 second piece on a good day.


I wasn't alive in the 70s but I'd imagine that would be considered plenty fast for that era street car, no,?

I would guess the son wasn't a die-hard hobbyist and the novelty wore off quickly. These cars don't exactly meet modern day driving expectations.


A mid-high 12's car could clean up back then. In the early mid 80's it took a legit 10, low 11's second car to do really well.,

Yeah a pretty stock well tuned hemi challenger back then, on a good day, with great hook is going to be a low 13's car.

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I have heard of a decent numbers of street racers around here, like the Silver Bullet, Lisk's Challenger, Mike Moran's Pinto Wagon, etc... but have never heard of the Black Ghost Challenger until recently. It's a cool car though! No info really popped up until some articles in 2020.


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