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Re: Challenger outsells rustang and crapmaro.......again [Re: DaveRS23] #3110372
01/09/23 03:46 PM
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Perfect time to either mess it up or kill it. Oh wait that's in the works...perfect! Just as expected.



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Re: Challenger outsells rustang and crapmaro.......again [Re: Wheeler] #3110405
01/09/23 06:29 PM
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that total is still terrible


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Re: Challenger outsells rustang and crapmaro.......again [Re: 05dakota] #3110432
01/09/23 08:52 PM
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Care to elaborate?


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Re: Challenger outsells rustang and crapmaro.......again [Re: DaveRS23] #3110433
01/09/23 08:57 PM
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90,000 - 100,000 is a good number and even the 5th gen camaro hit that. Mustang usually does that automatically every year. Challenger doing 55,000 and beating both in 2022 shows there were parts shortages

Re: Challenger outsells rustang and crapmaro.......again [Re: Dart 500] #3110451
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This is Chrysler remember. And a sport/performance car. 2022 sales was the 6th best of the car's 15 year run and the 3rd year in a row of increased sales.

https://carfigures.com/us-market-brand/dodge/challenger

And there are those that disagree with your assessment including both media and the manufacturer:

"The Dodge Challenger is very, very old, but it doesn’t matter. For the very first time since the car emerged for the 2008 model year, Dodge has sold more Challengers than Ford and Chevrolet have sold Mustangs and Camaros.

Some will chalk that up to the chip shortage, and it’s quite possible Dodge and its dealer network have responded better to it than its crosstown rivals, as brand CEO Tim Kuniskis recently suggested to Automotive News in an interview. But to Stellantis’ own credit, the Challenger’s ascendance relative to the competition has been a trend for roughly half a decade now. The Mustang and Camaro have only slid in sales since 2015, when Ford’s numbers peaked. Incidentally, 2015 was the year the current-gen Mustang hit the market.

Kuniskis is adamant that being the segment leader is not Dodge’s aim, but rather a welcome prize for weathering the supply chain storm, and a sign his team is in tune with what muscle car customers want: a sense of community, supposedly."


https://jalopnik.com/after-13-years-on-the-market-the-dodge-challenger-has-1848409686

I agree with CEO Tim Kuniskis.


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Re: Challenger outsells rustang and crapmaro.......again [Re: DaveRS23] #3110495
01/10/23 03:29 AM
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If they had any balls or brains, they wouldn't abandon the gas powered cars.

Re: Challenger outsells rustang and crapmaro.......again [Re: DaveRS23] #3110581
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Originally Posted by DaveRS23
This is Chrysler remember. And a sport/performance car. 2022 sales was the 6th best of the car's 15 year run and the 3rd year in a row of increased sales.

https://carfigures.com/us-market-brand/dodge/challenger

And there are those that disagree with your assessment including both media and the manufacturer:

"The Dodge Challenger is very, very old, but it doesn’t matter. For the very first time since the car emerged for the 2008 model year, Dodge has sold more Challengers than Ford and Chevrolet have sold Mustangs and Camaros.

Some will chalk that up to the chip shortage, and it’s quite possible Dodge and its dealer network have responded better to it than its crosstown rivals, as brand CEO Tim Kuniskis recently suggested to Automotive News in an interview. But to Stellantis’ own credit, the Challenger’s ascendance relative to the competition has been a trend for roughly half a decade now. The Mustang and Camaro have only slid in sales since 2015, when Ford’s numbers peaked. Incidentally, 2015 was the year the current-gen Mustang hit the market.

Kuniskis is adamant that being the segment leader is not Dodge’s aim, but rather a welcome prize for weathering the supply chain storm, and a sign his team is in tune with what muscle car customers want: a sense of community, supposedly."


https://jalopnik.com/after-13-years-on-the-market-the-dodge-challenger-has-1848409686

I agree with CEO Tim Kuniskis.



Thats funny! His company is climbing to status they have never owned with a product they sell but are about to discontinue... we have the best product but we are gonna quit making it because we know what people want??? Reminds me of that bakery or something a few years back that had some best selling muffin or something and quit making it so people would start to buy there other stuff.


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Re: Challenger outsells rustang and crapmaro.......again [Re: HotRodDave] #3110586
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This is what Chrysler does and has always done. When I went to business school, back around 2005 or 2006 we had an auto biz class and the professor was a retired industry vet. We got talking about Chrysler and he nailed it. "They're doing ok now, but give it a couple years and they'll be in dire straights again (and like clockwork they went bankrupt again). But he said they historically did their best work when their backs were up against the wall facing liquidation, and like clockwork again they did come out with some pretty good products that saved the day.

Now it seems they are about to create their own hurricane and impending survival plan

Re: Challenger outsells rustang and crapmaro.......again [Re: Dart 500] #3110645
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Originally Posted by Dart 500
This is what Chrysler does and has always done. When I went to business school, back around 2005 or 2006 we had an auto biz class and the professor was a retired industry vet. We got talking about Chrysler and he nailed it. "They're doing ok now, but give it a couple years and they'll be in dire straights again (and like clockwork they went bankrupt again). But he said they historically did their best work when their backs were up against the wall facing liquidation, and like clockwork again they did come out with some pretty good products that saved the day.

Now it seems they are about to create their own hurricane and impending survival plan




When you say "hurricane" did you intend it as a pun?


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