Re: Buying a 1969 plymouth car in Illinois
[Re: Sammy]
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04/18/22 02:39 PM
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Went through this in ND about a year ago with a 1969 AMC from New York state. My local DMV had a cow, kept repeating that the only way it could be done with the New York registration card was with a bill of sale to back it up. Went to the state DMV in Bismarck, showed the clerk the card, she disappeared, and five minutes later I had a title. Moral of the story, totally up to your DMV, talk to them and see what they want.
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Re: Buying a 1969 plymouth car in Illinois
[Re: Sammy]
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04/18/22 06:54 PM
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Registering in Illinois will be a real challenge, if even possible. Illinois will require a title in order to get registration. You will have to contact the Secretary of State office in Springfield in order to get any hard information. The local offices will not be as much help and the information you get may vary depending on who you get on the phone.
The best route might be to get a title in another state and then get an Illinois title and registration from that. Illinois is tough, tough, tough on title issues.
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Re: Buying a 1969 plymouth car in Illinois
[Re: superbee69]
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04/18/22 07:09 PM
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bought a 68 barracuda coupe from GA no title just bill of sale . DMV said as long as b.o.s has seller name, address purchaser name , address, car make, model & vin , amount and date i was good to go. I was very, very, very doubtful it would be that simple . got my title 6 weeks later did this just before dec 4 last year .But one lady there said no go and she had to get the book out to verify it could be done. Are you from Illinois?
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Re: Buying a 1969 plymouth car in Illinois
[Re: 5thAve]
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04/18/22 07:42 PM
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Call DMV and find out \. NY isn't the only state with no titles for older vehicles and you'd already have the transferrable registration to prove ownership in NY so they should be familiar with that situation. It's probably more of a problem when you're dealing with a vehicle that's already licensed in Illinois that's supposed to have a title but doesn't. Illinois doesn't have a DMV. Not understanding the offices that the OP needs to talk to will only complicate and confuse the situation.
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Re: Buying a 1969 plymouth car in Illinois
[Re: superbee69]
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04/18/22 08:37 PM
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got this fbbo site. guy in nys tells po what he may have to do. illinois may be the same deal. sorry it is upside down.
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Re: Buying a 1969 plymouth car in Illinois
[Re: DaveRS23]
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04/19/22 02:10 PM
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Call DMV and find out \. NY isn't the only state with no titles for older vehicles and you'd already have the transferrable registration to prove ownership in NY so they should be familiar with that situation. It's probably more of a problem when you're dealing with a vehicle that's already licensed in Illinois that's supposed to have a title but doesn't. Illinois doesn't have a DMV. Not understanding the offices that the OP needs to talk to will only complicate and confuse the situation. So call whoever is in charge of vehicle licensing then, It's not confusing the situation at all. Go straight to the source. It can't be that hard or impossible like you said previously to deal with this when the car is coming from a state that doesn't have titles for older cars. If it's already in Illinois and you are purchasing a car with no title it's a different situation. The state licensing department or whatever they call themselves should know how to deal with this it's not a unique situation. People move and buy cars from other states all the time.
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Re: Buying a 1969 plymouth car in Illinois
[Re: 5thAve]
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You clearly have never had a title issue that you tried to resolve in Illinois. It is just not as easy as you seem to think that it is. Read some of the previous posts on dealing with titles in Illinois.
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Re: Buying a 1969 plymouth car in Illinois
[Re: DaveRS23]
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04/19/22 08:13 PM
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Regardless of how you look at this issue, until the OP talks to somebody in the Illinois Secretary of State's office, Illinois Title Informationthis isn't going to get resolved. Period.
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Re: Buying a 1969 plymouth car in Illinois
[Re: DaveRS23]
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04/19/22 11:03 PM
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You clearly have never had a title issue that you tried to resolve in Illinois. It is just not as easy as you seem to think that it is. Read some of the previous posts on dealing with titles in Illinois. No I haven't but it doesn't sound like you've dealt with the same situation as Sammy's before either. So far it looks like there is only one reply from someone who actually had to deal with it and they didn't think it was that big of a deal. Mybe they were lucky. I'm sure it is a pain in Illinois but I've dealt with other areas enough to know that title issues for vehicles that are already in a state is a lot different then bringing one in that conforms to the state it's coming from.
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Re: Buying a 1969 plymouth car in Illinois
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People buy and sell muscle cars all the time at these big auctions. How do they handle the titling? Aren’t older cars purchased and registered in new states quite frequently? Connecticut is another non-title state for older cars.
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Re: Buying a 1969 plymouth car in Illinois
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04/20/22 09:52 AM
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People buy and sell muscle cars all the time at these big auctions. How do they handle the titling? Aren’t older cars purchased and registered in new states quite frequently? Connecticut is another non-title state for older cars. Working with people who buy cars at auctions for the last 20 years I would say the majority don't title the cars in their name, they put them in a file and skip them until they have a need to put them in their name. Most have a some kind of car dealership where they get plates to drive them or simply title them in free states like Montana, I have seen it a million times...
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Re: Buying a 1969 plymouth car in Illinois
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04/20/22 01:55 PM
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People buy and sell muscle cars all the time at these big auctions. How do they handle the titling? Aren’t older cars purchased and registered in new states quite frequently? Connecticut is another non-title state for older cars. Working with people who buy cars at auctions for the last 20 years I would say the majority don't title the cars in their name, they put them in a file and skip them until they have a need to put them in their name. Most have a some kind of car dealership where they get plates to drive them or simply title them in free states like Montana, I have seen it a million times... Thanks for sharing your experience. Non-state residents can obtain titles in Montana?
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Re: Buying a 1969 plymouth car in Illinois
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04/20/22 10:31 PM
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My title quest started with a call to insurance agent to get to a bond to get a title for my 68, but per my agents request I called Silvis Il dmv that's when they said I could get a title in Il with a B.O.S as long as it had all the info on it. and that's what I did Interesting, the collar counties around Chicago WILL NOT do this! I have been to every county around Chicago all the way to Rockford and all I got from them was to start a bonded title which takes about three years and 10% cash down with what they deem the vehicle is worth...
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Re: Buying a 1969 plymouth car in Illinois
[Re: Rhinodart]
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04/24/22 10:11 PM
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I've bonded a few vehicles in IL (the last one 2 years ago). I don't believe a bonded title would be required on this one. A good title agency makes things go much more smoothly.
There are even good Secretary of State offices that are helpful, as long as your not doing things like this a lot. Usually you have to talk with the right person at that office, and you need to have exactly what you need before the process can start. Its often easier to ask the right person at those good offices what you need to get the job done before you start the process, then come in later with everything the State requires.. With IL, there may be several forms needed, and matching dates on all the forms (within a specific time frame) are often required. You want to ask the person helping you what forms are needed, who has to fill them out, and what forms may need the same date on them. Bring in the correct forms, with the correct person having filled them out, with the correct dates on them. Pictures as well if needed.
Want a title? Jump through their hoops! Then be very friendly about it all with the person trying to help you. Its most likely not the person you are dealing with, but the stupid state that causes the problem. When it comes to titles, most of the stuff the state requires won't make much sense, but you have to do it their dumb way.
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Re: Buying a 1969 plymouth car in Illinois
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04/25/22 11:05 AM
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My title quest started with a call to insurance agent to get to a bond to get a title for my 68, but per my agents request I called Silvis Il dmv that's when they said I could get a title in Il with a B.O.S as long as it had all the info on it. and that's what I did Interesting, the collar counties around Chicago WILL NOT do this! I have been to every county around Chicago all the way to Rockford and all I got from them was to start a bonded title which takes about three years and 10% cash down with what they deem the vehicle is worth... Interesting, I would have thought Rockford might be ok. But definitely get out of the Chicagoland area, out to real midwest where people want to help each other would be my advice as well.
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