Re: Hamtramck fender tag finish
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One owner Hamtramck car, 1969 Barracuda. Body color painted fender tag before current state of restoration with body filler. Same paint finish/thickness as the inner fender and bent near front hole. With aluminum inspection tag under front hole. That there is more paint on the back side of the aluminum tag than the front indicates it was likely bent up over the fender tag for painting. The screws are just generic from any hardware store, but if anybody wants to pay big bucks for my originals, we can deal.
A nicely restored car should have a nicely restored fender tag too, IMO. Apparently many fender tags received damage from battery fumes over the years, same as the nearby inner fender and hood. I believe that kentj340's post is the best or IMO most correct answer. This is how I would do it. But that's me and I only have one Hamtramck car a '69 Dart GTS M-code WITHOUT a fender tag so my opinion is totally worthless at this point I will add that my '69 LA "E" assembly GTX's fender tag is original and a one owner car and the fender tag as it was on the car was exactly as kentj340 describes it down to one painted left mounting screw and no paint on the right screw, bent slightly in the upper left corner and painted on both sides. Seems it was done the same as (maybe same??) Hamtramck assembly............and St. Louis on my former '68 RR. Only Lynch Road seems to have used the "hanging" fender tag method.
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Re: Hamtramck fender tag finish
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04/07/22 09:49 AM
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Kowal and A12 are right Messed that one up!
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Re: Hamtramck fender tag finish
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So what I am gathering so far…69 or 70, Hamtramck built, tag has full thickness of body paint on the tag and was held on during the process by one screw with the second added later and kept bare? Tag was probably bent upward. Is this right?
To me, on the inspection tag, it would seem to related to when it was added in the process. Early it would be painted, later it probably would not. Thoughts?
The tag was held on by a screw in the rearmost hole on the tag, and the other screw to fully hold down the tag was installed later after painting. If it's a 2 fender tag car, the two outermost screws were installed after paint. Hopefully someone who has studied the inspection tags closer can help with telling what they were for, when installed and if painted or not. No offence but the front screw was attached and painted and the rear screw was not painted. Just opposite what you said in your post. There are several pictures in this post showing the correct placement.
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Re: Hamtramck fender tag finish
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In the David Wise book, he did say that the middle screw of a two tag arrangement was the one that was painted, and the other two were not
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Re: Hamtramck fender tag finish
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I wasn't refuting the double tag scenario. You stated "The tag was held on by a screw in the rearmost hole on the tag, and the other screw to fully hold down the tag was installed later after painting". Single tags were bent up on the front corner and painted and then the rear screw was installed un painted. The double tag scenario makes sense because it would be faster and simpler on the line. For every single tag that has both screws painted there a thousands of tags with the front screw painted the tag bent upward and the rear one not painted from that factory. That's what the original post was asking and now he has the answer.
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Re: Hamtramck fender tag finish
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Yep, this was good. Answered exactly what I was looking for. Painted tag, forward most screw painted, inspection tag painted. The Lynch road pic was interesting. From the Lift Off Hood forum I knew how Lynch Road tags looked, but good to see the pic showing why.,
The David W book talks about all of this but never just says how the trim tag was finished, definitively. Kind of gets lost in all the possible variations. Also, seems to focus more on the LA plant versus Hamtramck, short of what can be deduced from all the pics. He does say that he has seen 6 different types of inspection tags, with the square being most associated with Hamtramck (though obviously not what my Challenger came with). Having said all of this, his books are amazing in terms of what is in there…what type of screw, finish, etc of nearly everything. Did you know there was a special wire to help ground the 70 e-body side trim lights in the trunk with a plastic clip that was sort of a running change? David W has a picture in the book!
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