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i am use too 150-160k cars, now just seems every thing is over 200k , one is a late model magnum the other is a ramcharger with like 370k on the body still looks nice to me grin

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Make sure its something you'll be able to get parts for (parts in short supply these days). For the mag, look up front end parts, struts etc as a test.

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Biggest things are rust, as said parts availability, and can you work on it yourself ??? I just bought a 98 Ram with 174k , just broken in , and I had bought one a number of years ago with 328k .. it was pretty well used up but did the job. I was looking at a 2000 Ram with 357k miles but it didn't pan out.


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Originally Posted by JohnRR
Biggest things are rust, as said parts availability, and can you work on it yourself ??? I just bought a 98 Ram with 174k , just broken in , and I had bought one a number of years ago with 328k .. it was pretty well used up but did the job. I was looking at a 2000 Ram with 357k miles but it didn't pan out.


up For the most part rust is the decider and for me a no brainer to buy a Southwest NO RUST high miler even with interior fade or issues. A high mile rust belt northeast vehicle is usually not as good a purchase as a Southwest sunbelt vehicle with even twice the milage. My GTX came from El Paso, TX and had over 90k on it with an interior that was bad but not a bit of RUST and all original sheet metal. Even only a few year old vehicles in the El Paso have six figure odometers that I've looked at and at first it seemed surprising but then my friend reminded me he travels nearly 80 miles a day back and forth to work six days a week just in El Paso. Some parts of the country high milers are the norm now and not that big of an issue......salt, wet weather and short daily trips well most of us no the toll that takes on our vehicles down

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I bought new, and drove a 2006 Magnum with the 3.5 v6 for 270,000 miles before selling it. The guy that bought it 5 years ago is still daily driving it. Brakes, tires, regular maintenance items were really the only stuff I ever did to the car.


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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck [Re: 19swinger70] #3023982
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As with anything, you have to totally assess the whole package . . . I still have my 2006 Magnum RT AWD, with 230k km (143k miles), have always done routine maintenance, including minor rust repair in the wheel arches on the back 1/4s. I know the shop I take it to, for things I can't/won't do, would totally back up the fact that it is still in great condition. Can anyone say how long or good a car will be ?? . . . look at the maintenance history, condition, etc and decide. I would rather pay a bit more for high mileage vehicle I would want, that I have seen the maintenance history, etc.

In the current market conditions, you still have to do your homework on that vehicle you want/need - what were the weak points/strong points, etc, how was it maintained ? How does it present ? Do you feel good about the "deal" ??

On the "parts front" . . . lots of parts available on RockAuto and other places . . . and if it's a platform that has been around for a while (like LX), then there should be parts supply for it, well into the future (hopefully !)

Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck [Re: a12rag] #3023987
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Miles on a car is a terrible way to judge a cars condition, most of the best cars I have owned have very high miles. I just bought an 03 Honda pilot on tuesday for my wife with 344,000 miles that honestly runs and drives like new, no leaks, the leather interior is very nice even the drivers seat $800 i'm into it. Another was a 95 Maxima I bought her in 03 for $1500 with 327,000 miles, I eventually sold it at 400,000 and it was like new except a lot of tiny rock chips on the front bumper and the only thing I ever had to do to it was a water pump. I bought a 2011 ram back in 2017 with 300,000 and it only needed a cam when I bought it for almost nothing and again it was like new, even the bearings in the engine looked great.

I have 2 2009 ram 1500s right now one has 140,000 and is trashed the other has 250,000 and is really nice, if I was to sell them I know for a fact someone would pay me more for the one with lower miles just because it has lower miles.


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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck [Re: HotRodDave] #3024020
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I picked up a 1988 D100 back in September, free. Sat till I got title ($280) tags ($57) fuel pump ($125) now brakes (so far $75) next is the engine with clogged up pickup. What I’m saying is no mater what condition the vehicle is, you gonna pay. Or you can buy a new one and pay $1000 a month in payments for 7 years.

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I just bought a 2015 3500 regular cab single wheel with 267K miles on it and immediately took it on three trips with a total of 12,625 miles and had no issues. Before I bought it the dealer put new tires, new brakes, new water pump and radiator, so I was pretty sure it would be OK and it was. Just took it in for an oil and fuel filter change, and forgot how much they charge at the stealerships! eek The only thing I found out that didn't work was the A/C, $450 later it is blowing cold, but that was one expense I wasn't counting on until I got to Florida last week and it was 85 degrees and the A/C did not work! Tool old for that. My 2015 5.7 gas 4x4 just turned 327K with no engine issues, can't say the same for the trans, but I am the transaster man... runaway


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the 95 caravan [3.3 engine] i had went 320+k before the body fell off. and the 2000 caravan [3.0 engine] went over 200k before the same fate befell it.
both engines were never opened up, other than belts and idlers. the 3.3 had a water pump replaced.
and believe it or not, the 3.0 DIDN'T BURN OIL ! eek
i put a shift kit in both of these buss's transmissions, so i had no issues with those, other than an input or output sensor on the 2000. [i forget which it was].
the 99 i drive now came from arazona, so being rust free with a broken transaxle at 140k, it was a steal at $400.00.
i replaced the transaxle [plus the axles and wheel bearings while i was in there] and it has been trouble free since purchase back in 2014.
i have a local shop oil the snot out of it before winter, and i drilled all kinds of extra holes in the doors, gate, body, etc, plus all the plugs in the body and rockers come out so oil is pumped every place we can get to.
it marks it's "territory" every where it parks in warm weather, as the oil tends to "drip a little". biggrin
i also have my other two at my buddy's small junkyard for parts if i need any. i also have small parts on the shelf, here, plus rock auto lists tons of stuff for it if i ever need something i don't have.
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Originally Posted by moparx
the 95 caravan [3.3 engine] i had went 320+k before the body fell off. and the 2000 caravan [3.0 engine] went over 200k before the same fate befell it.
both engines were never opened up, other than belts and idlers. the 3.3 had a water pump replaced.
and believe it or not, the 3.0 DIDN'T BURN OIL ! eek
i put a shift kit in both of these buss's transmissions, so i had no issues with those, other than an input or output sensor on the 2000. [i forget which it was].
the 99 i drive now came from arazona, so being rust free with a broken transaxle at 140k, it was a steal at $400.00.
i replaced the transaxle [plus the axles and wheel bearings while i was in there] and it has been trouble free since purchase back in 2014.
i have a local shop oil the snot out of it before winter, and i drilled all kinds of extra holes in the doors, gate, body, etc, plus all the plugs in the body and rockers come out so oil is pumped every place we can get to.
it marks it's "territory" every where it parks in warm weather, as the oil tends to "drip a little". biggrin
i also have my other two at my buddy's small junkyard for parts if i need any. i also have small parts on the shelf, here, plus rock auto lists tons of stuff for it if i ever need something i don't have.
beer


Its pretty easy to swap VW diesels into those, you get 50mpg. Your Arizona van would be a good candidate

Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck [Re: Dart 500] #3024184
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I'm always always always more concerned with the body than mechanics. I feel like I can always replace or repair things mechanical but body work and panel repair is so much more difficult and expensive.


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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck [Re: theraif] #3024191
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IMO it depends on what part of the country you reside...In good old NYS or N East no way, I currently drive a 170K Magnum that looks great but is starting to need more and more maintenance and because of environmental influences its becoming harder to simply remove parts. Additionally as previously mentioned age of vehicle is going to come into play. I have been noticing more and more that parts are not available, not because of the current situation ( no workers// transportation) but the mfg.’s have discontinued making them everything form Ball joints for older Chevy trucks to parts for my '05 Magnum. Seems like mfgs are depleting inventory then discontinuing the product.
I am considering similar option of buying older vehicls with low milage but future parts availability has me cautious.


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I would take a 200K Toyota over anything new GM currently makes...and, have more confidence in driving it.


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Only time a super high mileage vehicle makes sense is when you know the vehicle (and maybe the owner) and its maint/repair history. And also when the body and underside is rust free.


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Think it was mentioned earlier . . . I always "plan" on a $1000 bill for "new to me" vehicle . . . no matter what, usually I am the "cooling system" guy - always something goes bad, rad, hoses, thermostat . . . but if you do your homework on the rig, you should be ok. But as I say, have $1k for the first year of ownership, whether it's brakes, tires, suspension, etc . . . still cheaper than $1000/mth car payments !

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I love my 250,000 mile '02 Dakota but the nickel and dime stuff is starting to wear me down. Just inherited a 2011 Taurus with 38,000 miles. Gonna drive it for a while and get caught up on the rest of my junk. Thanks, Mom, RIP. angel

Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck [Re: theraif] #3025351
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Originally Posted by theraif
i am use too 150-160k cars, now just seems every thing is over 200k ,

There's a small time dealer downtown that sells cars with 200k plus exclusively. Everything on the lot was $2899. laugh2
I recently bought an '03 ram V-10 autio with 176k. We'll see how that pans out when I actually start using it.
My DD '13 Ridgeline is at 160k. Still looks and drives great .
Wifey's '06 Pilot is at 140k. Again looks and drives great.
I suppose I will maintain these high mileage vehicles because I'm not giving up my low mile HC! drive

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Originally Posted by redraptor
Originally Posted by theraif
i am use too 150-160k cars, now just seems every thing is over 200k ,

There's a small time dealer downtown that sells cars with 200k plus exclusively. Everything on the lot was $2899. laugh2
I recently bought an '03 ram V-10 autio with 176k. We'll see how that pans out when I actually start using it.
My DD '13 Ridgeline is at 160k. Still looks and drives great .
Wifey's '06 Pilot is at 140k. Again looks and drives great.
I suppose I will maintain these high mileage vehicles because I'm not giving up my low mile HC! drive




Your DD's are both Hondas....you have a LONG way to go with both of them.


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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck [Re: oldjonny] #3025488
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Originally Posted by oldjonny
Originally Posted by redraptor
Originally Posted by theraif
i am use too 150-160k cars, now just seems every thing is over 200k ,

There's a small time dealer downtown that sells cars with 200k plus exclusively. Everything on the lot was $2899. laugh2
I recently bought an '03 ram V-10 autio with 176k. We'll see how that pans out when I actually start using it.
My DD '13 Ridgeline is at 160k. Still looks and drives great .
Wifey's '06 Pilot is at 140k. Again looks and drives great.
I suppose I will maintain these high mileage vehicles because I'm not giving up my low mile HC! drive




Your DD's are both Hondas....you have a LONG way to go with both of them.


You better hope so because working on them is a cast iron PITA

Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck [Re: Sniper] #3025497
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I bought an old Toyota with 150,000 and re-did the suspension, tires, wheels, CV's, bushings, brakes etc. Its just as reliable as anything new and ain't no payment princess. Forget that world....

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If you don't live where rust eats vehicles they do not have to wear out. Some maintenance is needed from time to time but it is a lot cheaper than buying new.

My work truck is a 2000 Chevy. I've had it since it was new. 320,000 miles on it now and it runs great, I would not hesitate to to head out cross country with it tomorrow. I put a trans in it a couple of years ago, cost me 2K for a rebuilt (including the R&R). Other than that, over its lifetime it has had a power steering pump, spider gears in the diff, a radiator, an alternator, an AC compressor, and batteries, tires, belts and hoses. Company keeps trying to give me a new one but I refuse, I tell them this is a science project now. grin

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Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by oldjonny
Originally Posted by redraptor
Originally Posted by theraif
i am use too 150-160k cars, now just seems every thing is over 200k ,

There's a small time dealer downtown that sells cars with 200k plus exclusively. Everything on the lot was $2899. laugh2
I recently bought an '03 ram V-10 autio with 176k. We'll see how that pans out when I actually start using it.
My DD '13 Ridgeline is at 160k. Still looks and drives great .
Wifey's '06 Pilot is at 140k. Again looks and drives great.
I suppose I will maintain these high mileage vehicles because I'm not giving up my low mile HC! drive




Your DD's are both Hondas....you have a LONG way to go with both of them.


You better hope so because working on them is a cast iron PITA


Compared to what? I did a complete engine (JDM) swap on my daughters winter beater Honda. Was a piece of cake. Did a complete engine cradle swap (Michigan destroys everything with rust)....no problem. Did a JDM swap on my DD (Pontiac Vibe...alias Toyota Matrix)...no problem. Its all a matter of reference.


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What I haven't seen mentioned is anyones tolerance to quirks on some of these high mile vehicles. Some quirks are easy fixes some are not or more expensive than it's worth to solve. I'm talking occasional things like rough idle once in a while, shifting funny occasionally, heater ductwork maybe hanging up depending on settings, rattle you can't quite pin down, CLE coming on for no reason, lights that burn out more frequently than others, etc, etc...

I recently sold a C3500 dump that I owned for a few years to complete some projects.Truck had 240k on it and I maybe put 500 miles a year on. It had some or all of these quirks but never left me stranded and always hauled the mail. That being said, It would drive me nuts if i was depending on to make a living. twocents

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Originally Posted by redraptor
What I haven't seen mentioned is anyones tolerance to quirks on some of these high mile vehicles. Some quirks are easy fixes some are not or more expensive than it's worth to solve. I'm talking occasional things like rough idle once in a while, shifting funny occasionally, heater ductwork maybe hanging up depending on settings, rattle you can't quite pin down, CLE coming on for no reason, lights that burn out more frequently than others, etc, etc...

I recently sold a C3500 dump that I owned for a few years to complete some projects.Truck had 240k on it and I maybe put 500 miles a year on. It had some or all of these quirks but never left me stranded and always hauled the mail. That being said, It would drive me nuts if i was depending on to make a living. twocents


Owner forums and a good code reader are essential. My dash lit up like a Christmas tree and I had no idea why, checked the forums and it was a wheel speed sensor causing it. I got 4 of them off Amazon for $35 ( I believe Toyota wanted over $100 just for one). If its an older vehicle whatever issue its having has happened to lots of other people and it'll be all over the owner forums.

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Originally Posted by Dart 500


Its pretty easy to swap VW diesels into those, you get 50mpg. Your Arizona van would be a good candidate


That is interesting.

Is there a shop anywhere in the USA that routinely transplants VW diesels into older Chrysler minivans?

I would guess that pre-1995 models with OBD-I no longer have to get emissions tested, except in California.

I remember reading years ago that Chrysler was building special minivans for VW to sell under the VW nameplate as the “Routan.”
Did any of those get VW diesel engines for the European market?

My fuzzy memory seems to recall that VW “tweaked” the front end shape and grille of their Chrysler built minivan Routan version to make them slightly more aerodynamic. Cd of 0.31 versus Chrysler’s 0.34 if I remember right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Routan

https://www.allpar.com/d3/model/caravan.html

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Richard Beck wrote that Motoring Life claimed a new Chrysler Voyager SE 2.5 l turbo diesel got 65 mpg. One in every three Voyagers sold in Ireland was a Grand version, which the magazine called “the luxury limousine of the MPV sector,” at over £45,000. All Voyagers offered the choice of gasoline or diesel engines, the Voyager getting the 2.4 liter with either five-speed manual or four-speed automatic, and the Grand Voyager with the 3.3 V6 and an automatic - both had the 2.5 liter turbodiesel as an option with a five speed manual.

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Its pretty easy to swap VW diesels into those, you get 50mpg. Your Arizona van would be a good candidate


That is interesting.

Is there a shop anywhere in the USA that routinely transplants VW diesels into older Chrysler minivans?

I would guess that pre-1995 models with OBD-I no longer have to get emissions tested, except in California.

I remember reading years ago that Chrysler was building special minivans for VW to sell under the VW nameplate as the “Routan.”
Did any of those get VW diesel engines for the European market?

My fuzzy memory seems to recall that VW “tweaked” the front end shape and grille of their Chrysler built minivan Routan version to make them slightly more aerodynamic. Cd of 0.31 versus Chrysler’s 0.34 if I remember right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Routan

https://www.allpar.com/d3/model/caravan.html

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Richard Beck wrote that Motoring Life claimed a new Chrysler Voyager SE 2.5 l turbo diesel got 65 mpg. One in every three Voyagers sold in Ireland was a Grand version, which the magazine called “the luxury limousine of the MPV sector,” at over £45,000. All Voyagers offered the choice of gasoline or diesel engines, the Voyager getting the 2.4 liter with either five-speed manual or four-speed automatic, and the Grand Voyager with the 3.3 V6 and an automatic - both had the 2.5 liter turbodiesel as an option with a five speed manual.

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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck [Re: Dart 500] #3026074
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Here's the first van it was in, he just swaps the VW motor in, drives the vans until they fall apart and swaps the engine into another van. Someone said in the comments its in a newer egg shape van now lol


Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck [Re: Dart 500] #3026185
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Well if anyone is looking for an AZ rust free 2001 CTD 4X4 long bed I’ve got the unit in my garage. 200k miles….. actually going to put it on marketplace tonight.

Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck [Re: redraptor] #3026439
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Originally Posted by redraptor
What I haven't seen mentioned is anyones tolerance to quirks on some of these high mile vehicles. Some quirks are easy fixes some are not or more expensive than it's worth to solve. I'm talking occasional things like rough idle once in a while, shifting funny occasionally, heater ductwork maybe hanging up depending on settings, rattle you can't quite pin down, CLE coming on for no reason, lights that burn out more frequently than others, etc, etc...

I recently sold a C3500 dump that I owned for a few years to complete some projects.Truck had 240k on it and I maybe put 500 miles a year on. It had some or all of these quirks but never left me stranded and always hauled the mail. That being said, It would drive me nuts if i was depending on to make a living. twocents


If those things are dealt with as they arise over the years it don't hit you all at once and is a lot easier to swallow, it's when the previous owner ignored a bunch (oh it's just the cig lighter quit, oh it's just an EVAP leak...) of little things until it adds up to one big huge bill to fix everything all at once that will get you.


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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck [Re: HotRodDave] #3026624
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This truck has 378,000 miles. I bought it sort-of new. I am the only registered owner but the Dodge dealer drove it enough to put 3000 miles on it.
Regular maintenance, driven and used like a truck but not abused. Garaged every night.

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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck [Re: Kern Dog] #3026628
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Looks good for that many miles. We have a 2000 Toyota 4Runner with close to 250,000 miles on it. It runs great, handles great, doesn't use any oil. I just took it on a 500 mile trip and drove it 75 mph the whole way. Got more than 20 mpg and it didn't use any oil. Really can't complain about that rig. Never had any big problems with it, just regular maintenance and normal wear and tear. It eats front brakes if you use them hard but that is about the only weak area on the rig.

Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck [Re: Dart 500] #3026645
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A statistic was recently quoted on The Car Doctor radio show/podcast. Only 25% of car owners in America properly maintain their vehicles. When the first car manufacturer/ oil company stated "10,000 mile oil change intervals" the majority of the public took that as motivation to go 12,000-20,000 miles between changes on a 3k mile rated filter........and NOT checking the oil level. EVER.


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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck [Re: 2boltmain] #3026649
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Seems like about 25 to 30 years ago Consumer’s Reports magazine tried to evaluate motor oils by having engines rebuilt by the same company, then running motor oils in those engines for 1500 miles change out periods in Taxi Cabs service in New York City. After 1000,000 miles of service the rebuilt engines were torn down and wear parts were measured. Consumer’s Reports wrote that this method “failed” because they could not measure “statistically significant” differences in the dimensions of the wearing parts versus new.

But to me the most interesting part of that long ago CR report
was that some taxi cab companies in New York City had a long term policy of changing conventional motor oil at 500 miles,
and claimed that they could prove by their records that it was cost effective in the long run.
This was before synthetic oils were widespread.

I wonder if any NYC Taxi companies still use conventional oil and change it at 500 miles?

I know in the mid 1990s there were big 18 wheeler trucking companies that claimed that
non-synthetic Shell Rotella changed frequently was doing better than synthetic oils run longer.

Today overnight radio stations run synthetic Shell Rotella ads about every 20 minutes all night.

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Originally Posted by 360view
Seems like about 25 to 30 years ago Consumer’s Reports magazine tried to evaluate motor oils by having engines rebuilt by the same company, then running motor oils in those engines for 1500 miles change out periods in Taxi Cabs service in New York City. After 1000,000 miles of service the rebuilt engines were torn down and wear parts were measured. Consumer’s Reports wrote that this method “failed” because they could not measure “statistically significant” differences in the dimensions of the wearing parts versus new.

But to me the most interesting part of that long ago CR report
was that some taxi cab companies in New York City had a long term policy of changing conventional motor oil at 500 miles,
and claimed that they could prove by their records that it was cost effective in the long run.
This was before synthetic oils were widespread.

I wonder if any NYC Taxi companies still use conventional oil and change it at 500 miles?

I know in the mid 1990s there were big 18 wheeler trucking companies that claimed that
non-synthetic Shell Rotella changed frequently was doing better than synthetic oils run longer.




Today overnight radio stations run synthetic Shell Rotella ads about every 20 minutes all night.


Another podcast I listen to is out of Baton Rouge Louisiana. Louis Altazan owns AGCO automotive- a good sized independent repair shop. This 50 plus year tech recommends running full synth for the added protection. But do NOT extend the oil change interval because your running full synthetic. He (and many shops) make a lot of money replacing neglected engines and transmissions that do not have a lot of miles.

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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck [Re: AndyF] #3026699
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Originally Posted by AndyF
Looks good for that many miles. We have a 2000 Toyota 4Runner with close to 250,000 miles on it. It runs great, handles great, doesn't use any oil. I just took it on a 500 mile trip and drove it 75 mph the whole way. Got more than 20 mpg and it didn't use any oil. Really can't complain about that rig. Never had any big problems with it, just regular maintenance and normal wear and tear. It eats front brakes if you use them hard but that is about the only weak area on the rig.


4runners need good quality HD brakes. Mine had your regular auto store junk when I bought it that were warped so bad the entire vehicle felt like crap, so I put EBC rotors and pads on the front, it fixed most of it but I still had warping from the back so I went on rock auto and got Stop tech HD calipers, rotors and pads. Now it stops smooth as butter.

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I have a buddy with the same 4Runner and he upgraded to later model brakes with bigger wheels and tires. I don't remember exactly what he did but I think the next generation of brakes can be retrofitted. They are an inch bigger and require the 17 inch rims rather than the 16 inch rims that these came with.

Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck [Re: AndyF] #3026738
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Originally Posted by AndyF
I have a buddy with the same 4Runner and he upgraded to later model brakes with bigger wheels and tires. I don't remember exactly what he did but I think the next generation of brakes can be retrofitted. They are an inch bigger and require the 17 inch rims rather than the 16 inch rims that these came with.


Yes thats what mine has stock, I'd still try the higher end EBC pads/rotors first, should be fine as your runner (I'd assume) is a good bit lighter.

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