Re: Ventless Propane Fireplace
[Re: DusterKid]
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02/02/22 10:40 AM
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DaveRS23
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We installed a wall mounted 30,000 propane ventless a few years ago in a cooler part of the house. That area is now the warmest part of the house and we keep the thermostat on low. Clearly a success. I don't know about a 'fireplace' style. Get one with a thermostat, just cause they require less attention. We love ours and wished that we had put it in long before we actually did.
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Re: Ventless Propane Fireplace
[Re: DaveRS23]
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02/02/22 09:42 PM
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My experience with ventless heaters is that they tend to put a lot of humidity into the air, not such a bad thing in the winter, as long as the area is always heated. When the heat is shut off, after several hours, that moisture comes out of the air and tends to cling to metal objects. If you do it, plan on heating the area all winter with temps above freezing, preferably with a thermostat control. I would look into the cost of a vented heat source with a thermostat, they ted to be more efficient.
I had a 30,000 ventless heater in my 2 stall garage when we first moved here. I would heat the garage during the day, while I was working in there, and shut it off when I left for the day. After a couple weeks I noticed that some new sheet metal was getting surface rust on it, and the under side of the metal work bench had water dripping off of it, that would disappear after the heat was turned back on for a couple of hours. The next winter I installed an outside vented furnace with a thermostat control, and the dampness was gone.
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Re: Ventless Propane Fireplace
[Re: TooMany62s]
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02/03/22 02:35 PM
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I've had radiant tube heaters in a couple of garages over the years. You need the ceiling height. They are great!! I have a vent-less fireplace in my home today. I've been having some problems and It's VERY difficult to find anyone who will work on them. Garage heigh is 11'2" if I remember correctly. I know it right around 11'.
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Re: Ventless Propane Fireplace
[Re: DusterKid]
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02/03/22 02:55 PM
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What I did for my garage when I added on was to add a 60 amp subpanel. That required only one 60 amp feeder breaker in the service entrance and I not only fed all the garage branch circuits but transferred some of the house branch circuits to the sub panel to free up space. But everyone's situation is different.
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Re: Ventless Propane Fireplace
[Re: TooMany62s]
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02/05/22 10:52 PM
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I've had radiant tube heaters in a couple of garages over the years. You need the ceiling height. They are great!! I have a vent-less fireplace in my home today. I've been having some problems and It's VERY difficult to find anyone who will work on them. Whats wrong with your fireplace?
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Re: Ventless Propane Fireplace
[Re: DusterKid]
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02/07/22 08:59 PM
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check national and local codes for installing open flame appliance in garage....an old car or lawn mower/fuel cans etc that vent to atmosphere dont get along well with open flame in confined space.
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Re: Ventless Propane Fireplace
[Re: mopar65]
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02/10/22 08:00 AM
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I've had radiant tube heaters in a couple of garages over the years. You need the ceiling height. They are great!! I have a vent-less fireplace in my home today. I've been having some problems and It's VERY difficult to find anyone who will work on them. Whats wrong with your fireplace? It stays lit for about five minutes then goes out.
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Re: Ventless Propane Fireplace
[Re: TooMany62s]
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02/10/22 10:05 AM
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I've had radiant tube heaters in a couple of garages over the years. You need the ceiling height. They are great!! I have a vent-less fireplace in my home today. I've been having some problems and It's VERY difficult to find anyone who will work on them. Whats wrong with your fireplace? It stays lit for about five minutes then goes out. That's a thermocouple issue - easily fixed. You can clean it with emery cloth or scotchbrite or replace it.
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Re: Ventless Propane Fireplace
[Re: TooMany62s]
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02/13/22 02:17 PM
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Does the pliot flame when on curve up? If so there is a little hole in the side that probably is plugged etc with dust. Blow the hole out and restart your pilot and see if it stays on. If that doesn't fix it more than likely the thermocouple is bad. Here is a pic of how the pliot flame should look like.
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Re: Ventless Propane Fireplace
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Also the little hole I am talking about is on the end of the plot burner.
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Re: Ventless Propane Fireplace
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02/13/22 11:16 PM
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I have back problems that significantly limit my movement. That’s why I’m trying to find a repair person. Damn I am sorry to hear that. I know all to well about back problems. Could you have a Friend help you. This is a very easy fix.
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Re: Ventless Propane Fireplace
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02/14/22 09:27 AM
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Anyone knowledgeable about old ( +20 years perhaps) vented “Real Fyre 24” natural gas fireplace inserts ? This is a simple match lit unit. Has four rectangular refractory cement bars surrounding the black pipe gas burner. I am looking for an installation manual, or pictures of the insert installed. I know about the webpage of today’s Real Fyre: https://www.realfyrestore.com/real-fyre-fuel-injector-natural.htmlmy old unit has a fuel injector that looks like that, and an “Air shutter nut” that screws onto the fuel injector.
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Re: Ventless Propane Fireplace
[Re: mopar65]
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02/14/22 10:47 AM
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I have back problems that significantly limit my movement. That’s why I’m trying to find a repair person. Damn I am sorry to hear that. I know all to well about back problems. Could you have a Friend help you. This is a very easy fix. A friend tried to help. He damaged the mounting point where the thermo-couple goes. Now more parts will have to be replaced. I was hoping to find someone who actually services these things. The best I could do was to make an appointment four weeks in the future and pay $200 for a service call. The repair guy will be here tomorrow. We shall see. At least here in SC there does not appear to be many service people who repair these things.
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