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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: Kern Dog] #3009113
01/26/22 10:15 AM
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I don't mind this. I'm not fond of that style of wheel and I think there could be a larger combo to fill the rear wheel opening a little more but all in all, I like it.


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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: lilcuda] #3009284
01/26/22 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by lilcuda
Originally Posted by John_Kunkel
Originally Posted by MarkZ
Originally Posted by AndyF
Not as worthless as lipstick on a pig. Mopar muscle can be improved substantially with radial tires, lightweight rims, high quality shocks (Koni), bigger torsion bars, anti-sway bars and various chassis stiffening measures. It takes work and money but it isn't impossible.


John knows this. He also knows the OP's goal wasn't to turn vintage iron into something that competes with new iron. He's trolling again. No different than the behavior we saw in the unmoderated section.


Your mini-mind is showing AGAIN. My point was, when you're done "improving" you still have a torsion bar, live axle pig. On subject, some of us like the appearance of the taller sidewalls, same continuing argument like RWL showing versus no. No winners, just personal opinion.


Two questions:

1. Have you ridden in or driven The Red Brick Valiant? If not, you have no basis for calling it a "torsion bar, live axle pig". I can tell you from personal experience that the car is no "pig", it is THE most exciting car I have ever owned.

2. If Mopars are (as you put it) "torsion bar, live axle pigs", why are you on a Mopar-specific forum?


1. Apples to oranges comparison...a car purpose built vs. changing wheels (the thread topic) to improve handling. BTW, my misunderstood reference to "pig" merely means, no matter how you doll it up, it's still a pig. How many scratch-built cars employ torsion bars, leaf springs and live axles?

2. For the same reason I'm on orphan car forums, I love 'em but recognize their limitations....IOW, what I like doesn't have to be beyond reproach.


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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: Kern Dog] #3009285
01/26/22 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankenduster
Don't expect a rational response from that guy. He should have been a lawyer for how much he loves to argue.


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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: John_Kunkel] #3009367
01/26/22 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by John_Kunkel


2. For the same reason I'm an orphan car forums

It doesn't have to be that way. You knowingly alienate people by your abrasive responses. It is as if you get some sense of pleasure from purposely keeping people from liking you.
Those that have read your posts know that you are strong on convictions. That is not a bad thing.
Having friends does not mean that you have to give up your opinions. A real friend respects your right to have an opposing opinion.

Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: Andrewh] #3010302
01/29/22 03:49 PM
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those of you running 17's what tire size are you running?

looks like the coopers went up 30 bucks a tire and I can get good years in 17's for 110 bucks plus 60 bucks a rim and it is almost a wash.

Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: Andrewh] #3010309
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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: Andrewh] #3010424
01/29/22 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrewh
those of you running 17's what tire size are you running?

looks like the coopers went up 30 bucks a tire and I can get good years in 17's for 110 bucks plus 60 bucks a rim and it is almost a wash.


Depends on the car I'd use 235/55-17 tires on a B or E body car. That should be roughly the same as the biggest tire that the factory put on a B or C body car. For an A body car you might need to go a bit shorter.

Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: Kern Dog] #3010602
01/30/22 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankenduster
Originally Posted by John_Kunkel


2. For the same reason I'm on orphan car forums


It doesn't have to be that way. You knowingly alienate people by your abrasive responses. It is as if you get some sense of pleasure from purposely keeping people from liking you.
Those that have read your posts know that you are strong on convictions. That is not a bad thing.


Thank you Dr. Freud. If by "abrasive responses" you mean not being like you, “Vive la différence.”


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You seem to make a big issue of being liked and having friends...probably because you're so insecure.



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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: John_Kunkel] #3010608
01/30/22 05:36 PM
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You're calling ME Dr Freud ???

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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: Kern Dog] #3010704
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Why go with 17's and only be a donk poser? If your going to mess up the looks of a very attractive old Mopar with dorky donky 17" wheels, why not be a REAL donk?

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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: Hemi_Joel] #3010711
01/31/22 12:39 AM
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In the case of THOSE cars, I agree...they look terrible.
A large wheel with the right design can look great. I'm quite happy with how my car looks.

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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: Hemi_Joel] #3010819
01/31/22 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Hemi_Joel
Why go with 17's and only be a donk poser? If your going to mess up the looks of a very attractive old Mopar with dorky donky 17" wheels, why not be a REAL donk?



it's DORK joel, DORK ! a REAL DORK ! biggrin
and with forklift tires !....... panic
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