I am a huge proponent of Pro-Street cars...I hate this small tire car stuff. I have resisted doing any small tire stuff this long. It seems like small tire requirements started out with good intentions, to keep cost down so people would not have to tub their late model cars, but I think its gone a bit too far over the years. If you have a tubbed small tire car, what is the point I guess. People say, it equalizes the cars at high HP levels, I say, it makes them dangerous.
Years ago, I tried to buy his old one...Obviously, no luck. I love Pro-Street cars, even the slow ones like mine. Although, if Money allows, I may try a set of 315's on it.
Gorgeous car - love the wheel choice, exhaust, and it looks like the drip rails have been narrowed as well, which is a clever detail. I wouldn't consider it "streetable" being that low, but no matter, I understand the genre and agree that's a winner.
Re: The Standard by Which All Pro-Street Cars are Measured
[Re: topside]
#2975649 10/18/2101:14 PM10/18/2101:14 PM
That is a nice car but far from what the pro street movement was structured around.... long before the org. car was built pro street was well on its way. Sure that car there rocks but as practical and driveable as boobs on a bore when passing over a large grasshopper would rub, and we laugh a the lowered tuner cars ripping bumper covers off. In the early PS days there were very few mopars in the mix id place high on the list vs other brands, but some.
This is not even a practical driveable car to even drive any distance on the street without damage to the front. But it does fit some peoples criteria, at least the first version did.
But still very cool and would be a blast on the track.... looks more like a pro mod now vs pro street.
But we lived through it and if we forget just grab the pile of old pics or mags from say 75 up and see the progression and what the other brands produced as well.
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Re: The Standard by Which All Pro-Street Cars are Measured
[Re: Mr PotatoHead]
#2975655 10/18/2101:27 PM10/18/2101:27 PM
I don't see anything other than the paint, wheels, tires & door mirrors being pro street on that car. Fits show-slow Pro Mod category to me. Garage, Trailer, Show-Poodle Queen that spends its life carefully removed out the back of a trailer into parking lots or inside ropes on weekends. Beautiful car though, but nowhere near as cool as a usable FAST small tire street or race car.
Re: The Standard by Which All Pro-Street Cars are Measured
[Re: Dragula]
#2975660 10/18/2101:37 PM10/18/2101:37 PM
Having been on Drag Week many times now, I'm very jaded as to what a "street car" is, and can be. That Daytona is a cool car, but more Pro Fairground than anything. It wouldn't make it to the first checkpoint on Drag Week.
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Re: The Standard by Which All Pro-Street Cars are Measured
[Re: racerbychoice]
#2975665 10/18/2101:44 PM10/18/2101:44 PM
None the less you cant take anything away from that car as it sits, it rocks for sure and a mans dream came true while spending a lot of money and the workmanship looks great. I wonder how hard it runs?
I think we have all seen the vids of the black older mopar built semi like this running the streets.... insane.
It would be great seeing that car the op posted running the streets like this one, im sure it could if a bit higher, but will it happen? Lets hope. Pro Mod/Advanced pro street? on the street.
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[Re: Mr PotatoHead]
#2975681 10/18/2102:13 PM10/18/2102:13 PM
Another outstanding car with great power and build quality, but no one is calling these cars pro street, might just be all semantics.... These could be modern day pro street cars, that require support vehicles.
Great post Dragula.
We need to see the Daytona in action!
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[Re: JERICOGTX]
#2975684 10/18/2102:22 PM10/18/2102:22 PM
Having been on Drag Week many times now, I'm very jaded as to what a "street car" is, and can be. That Daytona is a cool car, but more Pro Fairground than anything. It wouldn't make it to the first checkpoint on Drag Week.
you'd probably think something like this is more of a Pro Street car, eh? Runs sevens....
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[Re: Dragula]
#2975688 10/18/2102:37 PM10/18/2102:37 PM
The Daytona is very nicely done and is a gorgeous car. You can call it what you want, Pro Street/ Pro Mod, but the fact is a ton of money was spent and it's a show poodle that will probably never make a pass down a drag strip.
Re: The Standard by Which All Pro-Street Cars are Measured
[Re: Mr PotatoHead]
#2975748 10/18/2104:29 PM10/18/2104:29 PM
That is a nice car but far from what the pro street movement was structured around.... long before the org. car was built pro street was well on its way. Sure that car there rocks but as practical and driveable as boobs on a bore when passing over a large grasshopper would rub, and we laugh a the lowered tuner cars ripping bumper covers off. In the early PS days there were very few mopars in the mix id place high on the list vs other brands, but some.
This is not even a practical driveable car to even drive any distance on the street without damage to the front. But it does fit some peoples criteria, at least the first version did.
But still very cool and would be a blast on the track.... looks more like a pro mod now vs pro street.
But we lived through it and if we forget just grab the pile of old pics or mags from say 75 up and see the progression and what the other brands produced as well.
I beg to differ. I have lived thru the era, and i think Pro-street has evolved just as the cars and equipment does with the speeds they go. Pro-street is no longer a big tired car that runs 9's...like my slow as heck Cuda does, but now runs in the 7's and quicker...Have you seen what passes for a "Street" Car on Drag Week these days? It seems to me, he ran the winning car in a Promod class and won! If I look, I know I can find it.
And as far as ground clearance, I think he has a air ride setup on it, I would have to re-read the article again, so I think he can set the ride height where he wants.
And as far as ground clearance, I think he has a air ride setup on it.
I was almost thinking it had to have like that but wondered if that would be practical on a car like that.
Here again I think it all comes down to semantics for the lack of a better term. Most of us have a picture in our mind were refer to when certain words are used and no two are the same.
I wonder what the rebuild cost was?
Have you seen what passes for a "Street" Car on Drag Week these days? It seems to me, he ran the winning car in a Promod class and won! Yes I know that but could that car there run drag week?
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Re: The Standard by Which All Pro-Street Cars are Measured
[Re: Mr PotatoHead]
#2975785 10/18/2105:52 PM10/18/2105:52 PM
None the less you cant take anything away from that car as it sits, it rocks for sure and a mans dream came true while spending a lot of money and the workmanship looks great. I wonder how hard it runs?
I think we have all seen the vids of the black older mopar built semi like this running the streets.... insane.
It would be great seeing that car the op posted running the streets like this one, im sure it could if a bit higher, but will it happen? Lets hope. Pro Mod/Advanced pro street? on the street.
Dude has never made a pass on the dragstrip with this car that I'm aware of. It just might be the ultimate poser mobile.
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[Re: GY3]
#2975798 10/18/2106:30 PM10/18/2106:30 PM
first of all the Daytona makes me feel all tingly. Awesome car. 2nd of all when someone says it wouldn't make the first check point, I remember a 57 wagon with a big motor that they threw a throttle body on and drove it. Never under estimate someone else car skills. Birdtracker
Re: The Standard by Which All Pro-Street Cars are Measured
[Re: squirrel]
#2975809 10/18/2106:52 PM10/18/2106:52 PM
Having been on Drag Week many times now, I'm very jaded as to what a "street car" is, and can be. That Daytona is a cool car, but more Pro Fairground than anything. It wouldn't make it to the first checkpoint on Drag Week.
you'd probably think something like this is more of a Pro Street car, eh? Runs sevens....
.....That car was my hero
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[Re: racerx]
#2975811 10/18/2106:58 PM10/18/2106:58 PM
Yeah, Steve LIsk's car was one of the greatest Pro Street cars of all time. That car is almost 50 years old and it would still draw a crowd today at any show it pulled into. Lisk hit a grand slam with that car and there have been very few cars built since that look as tough as that one.
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[Re: GY3]
#2975950 10/19/2101:17 AM10/19/2101:17 AM
None the less you cant take anything away from that car as it sits, it rocks for sure and a mans dream came true while spending a lot of money and the workmanship looks great. I wonder how hard it runs?
I think we have all seen the vids of the black older mopar built semi like this running the streets.... insane.
It would be great seeing that car the op posted running the streets like this one, im sure it could if a bit higher, but will it happen? Lets hope. Pro Mod/Advanced pro street? on the street.
Dude has never made a pass on the dragstrip with this car that I'm aware of. It just might be the ultimate poser mobile.
Which year Dart is that? I'm not really across the early US Valiant stuff
Alan Jones
Re: The Standard by Which All Pro-Street Cars are Measured
[Re: LA360]
#2975966 10/19/2105:35 AM10/19/2105:35 AM
None the less you cant take anything away from that car as it sits, it rocks for sure and a mans dream came true while spending a lot of money and the workmanship looks great. I wonder how hard it runs?
I think we have all seen the vids of the black older mopar built semi like this running the streets.... insane.
It would be great seeing that car the op posted running the streets like this one, im sure it could if a bit higher, but will it happen? Lets hope. Pro Mod/Advanced pro street? on the street.
Dude has never made a pass on the dragstrip with this car that I'm aware of. It just might be the ultimate poser mobile.
Which year Dart is that? I'm not really across the early US Valiant stuff
The black car is a 63 Valiant.
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[Re: justinp61]
#2975969 10/19/2105:50 AM10/19/2105:50 AM
this is my 69 dart pro streeter,tunnel rammed 440,tubbed out,not a trailer queen,as i drive it every weekend to car shows and pound on it every chance i get
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[Re: LA360]
#2976009 10/19/2109:46 AM10/19/2109:46 AM
None the less you cant take anything away from that car as it sits, it rocks for sure and a mans dream came true while spending a lot of money and the workmanship looks great. I wonder how hard it runs?
I think we have all seen the vids of the black older mopar built semi like this running the streets.... insane.
It would be great seeing that car the op posted running the streets like this one, im sure it could if a bit higher, but will it happen? Lets hope. Pro Mod/Advanced pro street? on the street.
Dude has never made a pass on the dragstrip with this car that I'm aware of. It just might be the ultimate poser mobile.
Which year Dart is that? I'm not really across the early US Valiant stuff
I don't see a 7.50 or quicker cage? I doubt it has ever been run down a track, ( this car is local hear) so Lord only knows how it will react. Crack the throttle on a car like this and you instantly will have a ton of wheel speed, which is a lot of energy that has to be disapated. To me that is a disaster in the making.
Having been on Drag Week many times now, I'm very jaded as to what a "street car" is, and can be. That Daytona is a cool car, but more Pro Fairground than anything. It wouldn't make it to the first checkpoint on Drag Week.
you'd probably think something like this is more of a Pro Street car, eh? Runs sevens....
This is exactly what I think of when I think Pro-street
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[Re: dart games]
#2976577 10/20/2105:50 PM10/20/2105:50 PM
this is my 69 dart pro streeter,tunnel rammed 440,tubbed out,not a trailer queen,as i drive it every weekend to car shows and pound on it every chance i get
Also very much pro-street
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[Re: cdwmotorsports]
#2976773 10/21/2111:04 AM10/21/2111:04 AM
I love PS cars...especially Mopars....In my book, if its tubbed and has a roll bar or cage and big tires, its a PS car. I do find the new generation tubbed small tire cars a bit perplexing, but to each there own.
Mine went from gasser in the 60s to Pro Street now.
Mark
1996 Ram 1500 Sport 1968 road runner 1952 Sears Allstate licensed, pump gas, Hemi 5.98 @ 115.73 1.33 60 ft. The best is yet to come. Painless Performance / Street RODDER magazine Top 100 for 2019
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[Re: forphorty]
#2976916 10/21/2106:23 PM10/21/2106:23 PM
I saw the original in Duquion in the 90's. Was a cool piece for sure. New one looks better.
I've known Wally for 35+ years, this car is better in every way than the 1st one he built back in the early 90's.
Car build quality on all cars has progressed in 30 years and this car is an example of that.
This is a fill chassis car type build with a Charger Daytona skin on the outside. It's a far cry from the one he built back then which started with a original Charger chassis.
The first one he built is somewhere out west, AZ or NM.
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Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol
Re: The Standard by Which All Pro-Street Cars are Measured
[Re: gtx6970]
#2977091 10/22/2102:11 AM10/22/2102:11 AM
BUT for me the ultimate Pro Street car is and always will be is,,,,,,, the Steve Lisk Challenger
Yeah I agree. Steve Lisk was so far ahead of his time that all other pro street cars end up being derivative. Some of the copies have nicer paint than Lisk or nicer chrome or more power or whatever, but the Lisk Challenger defined the category. There were some other cars of that era that were pretty cool. The Mustang II with the huge Gapp and Roush engine was cool. There was also a really well done Monza that was an early trend setter for Pro Street and there was a Hot Rod editor who had a Pro Street Vega with a 482 inch big block. Pro Street ment a lot more back in those days since it required some real resources to build a car. That was before Summit existed so no free shipping for Pro Street parts made in China. Then along came Dobbertin with the extremely ugly J2000 and that was the end of the show. Everyone since then has tried to be cool as Lisk without ending up as ugly as Dobbertin. A lot of cars end up looking more like the J2000 than the Challenger.
Re: The Standard by Which All Pro-Street Cars are Measured
[Re: gtx6970]
#2977197 10/22/2111:33 AM10/22/2111:33 AM
BUT for me the ultimate Pro Street car is and always will be is,,,,,,, the Steve Lisk Challenger
Thee very car that inspired my build. That Challenger was always my favorite. Even kept it old school with tunnel ram and dual Dominators with a hint of Nitrous as well.
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.....That car was my hero 
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