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440Source Vs. Ohio Crank #2968737
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Looking to buy just rods and a crank - which do you prefer over the other (440source or Ohio Crank)?

Re: 440Source Vs. Ohio Crank [Re: MoparJason0O0] #2968814
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Originally Posted by MoparJason0O0
Looking to buy just rods and a crank - which do you prefer over the other (440source or Ohio Crank)?
Both are fine up to750 HP or so, Molnar after that up twocents


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Re: 440Source Vs. Ohio Crank [Re: Cab_Burge] #2968817
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Cab, I have one of the old 440 Source Hemi cranks still in the box. Would your comments apply to that also? Thanks.


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Re: 440Source Vs. Ohio Crank [Re: 6PakBee] #2968956
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I have not bought, seen or used one of those cranks so I have no valid input on them, sorry. shruggy


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Re: 440Source Vs. Ohio Crank [Re: Cab_Burge] #2968974
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Why is Molnar not on your list?


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Look at that post again, I list Molnar ABOVE both 440 Source and Ohio Crankshafts due to him using 4340 crank material instead of 5140 material in his cranks and rods scope


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Re: 440Source Vs. Ohio Crank [Re: Cab_Burge] #2969025
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Are you suggesting 440 source/ Ohio crank don't use 4340?

Re: 440Source Vs. Ohio Crank [Re: B1MAXX] #2969232
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Originally Posted by B1MAXX
Are you suggesting 440 source/ Ohio crank don't use 4340?

Call them and ask them scope twocents
I've use both with types no problems up
I think the 4340 is suppose to be able to take more stress before failing, maybe not confused

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Re: 440Source Vs. Ohio Crank [Re: Cab_Burge] #2969310
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Ohio crank looks to not use 4340 until you go I beam. Kits generally show h beams and those might be 5140 as they don’t say on their site.


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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Look at that post again, I list Molnar ABOVE both 440 Source and Ohio Crankshafts due to him using 4340 crank material instead of 5140 material in his cranks and rods scope

I have over 11k hard mikes on my 440 source 512 stroker kit

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First we start with super strong aircraft quality 4340 steel, certified to meet or exceed SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) standards. We constantly pull samples and run tests on the chemical composition of our 4340 raw steel to make sure it meets every index included in the specifications.
Our Platinum series rods (listed below) are the highest quality rods we offer. We encourage you to shop around and do your research, because we know that no one else offers such a high quality product at an incredibly affordable price. Compare these manufacturing processes, specs and tolerances with the competition:

All our Platinum Series rods start with super strong aircraft quality 4340 steel, certified to meet or exceed SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) standards. We constantly pull samples and run tests on the chemical composition of our 4340 raw steel to make sure it meets every index included in the specifications.

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Re: 440Source Vs. Ohio Crank [Re: Cab_Burge] #2969348
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Originally Posted by B1MAXX
Are you suggesting 440 source/ Ohio crank don't use 4340?

Call them and ask them scope twocents
I've use both with types no problems up
I think the 4340 is suppose to be able to take more stress before failing, maybe not confused


Even their 200$ chevy stock replacements are 4340.
I would be shocked eek if their 500$ h-beam is 5140. I don't think I've ever seen a 5140 h-beam style rod anywhere.

Re: 440Source Vs. Ohio Crank [Re: B1MAXX] #2969527
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Not sure if it matters but I just ordered a 440 Source kit and was told it will come with Scat rods.

Re: 440Source Vs. Ohio Crank [Re: sam64] #2969592
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how bad is an eagle crank [8 bolt] and rod [h beam style] setup ? worse than the source parts ?
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Re: 440Source Vs. Ohio Crank [Re: moparx] #2969627
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all this stuff is good for most builds......chose your weapon up. I mean for the most part this stuff is going in stock blocks. Where is the weak link there?

Re: 440Source Vs. Ohio Crank [Re: B1MAXX] #2969631
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That being said, my INDY aluminum block has a Ohio crank in it, no shame here.

Re: 440Source Vs. Ohio Crank [Re: B1MAXX] #2969647
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I am like B1Maxx , my Indy block has an 4.250 Ohio Crankshaft in it. I live close by them and have went to the track with one of the engine builders. My crankshaft was spot on as was the rods. I think you would be happy with either one if the parts are available. Birdtracker

Re: 440Source Vs. Ohio Crank [Re: MoparJason0O0] #2969744
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I'd say that all of them are forged in the same china factory.

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Why no mention of Moldex ?

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Originally Posted by moparx
how bad is an eagle crank [8 bolt] and rod [h beam style] setup ? worse than the source parts ?
beer


I have an Eagle 3.900 crank in my B block 470". I think journal sizing could have been a tick better but all in all it was OK. It's just a sreet toy and has been together for years now without issue but it rarely sees north of 6k. Can't comment on rods as I used Manley.

Re: 440Source Vs. Ohio Crank [Re: dOc …] #2970301
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Originally Posted by dOc 3.0 !
Why no mention of Moldex ?


you been reading history books again DoC ? a "yOuT" like you wouldn't know about Moldex unless you read about that company in a book. biggrin
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