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Re: Portable Generator [Re: Bad340fish] #2949714
08/02/21 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Bad340fish
Originally Posted by 360view
Having natural gas service to the house and an existing easy to access port and valve inside the fireplace
has made me think about buying a kit to convert my 10 HP Briggs & Stratton powered Troy built 7500 watt gasoline portable generator to natural gas
and keeping it on hand “just in case.”

If anyone knows the best kit to buy for this please comment.

I have now been through ice storms and Hurricanes that kept the electric service off for more than 7 days numerous times.


I don't know of a kit but beware that changing it over to NG will likely reduce its output. Costco was selling a tri fuel generator that ran on Gas, NG, or Propane. It had different output ratings for each fuel, the highest being gasoline and I think propane was next.

I have a smaller home than most on here I am sure 1500SF but 2600 under roof.
Had an electrician put an interlock on my existing panel. Have a 9000-watt Blackmax with 13 hp Honda. We have a gas water heater, furnace, fireplace, drier, and range/oven.
with everything on the gen is putting out at 28% of the available total 100% load. with the microwave off using 16-18% and at that rate tank of fuel last 15 hours.
I have some smaller VP racing fuel 15-gallon drums and a hand pump. But will one day convert it to NG as we have it. I simple kit is not much $ but running the gas line is $
Note that we had a Briggs powered 4000watt that was using more fuel with the 8HP cast-iron sleeved engine
We run it every 30 days under load and keep all gas with stybil in it. Gas has never been a problem going bad. even used 3-year-old sealed drum gas no problem. Stybil also sells 360 so it coats the inside the tank to prevent rust.
In the past, my old Generac with Briggs (1992 they do not make them like they used to) ran all the 110 for 7 days after a hurricane and the same goes for the Honda-powered but the Honda engined one way outperformed the smaller one and used less fuel.
I saw someone posted larger uses more fuel that was not the case for our use of a larger one less taxed used less fuel
In addition to the every 30 days run with load, I do oil changes with Mobile One
We sized Larger since the NG Conversion will put out less BTU and put out less

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Re: Portable Generator [Re: 1fastrunner] #2949984
08/03/21 12:20 PM
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See if your local utility offers something like this - http://www.generlink.com/ or http://www.generlink.com/generlink.html - that is what we used works great - simple and safe but the utility has accept/support the installation.


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Re: Portable Generator [Re: 1fastrunner] #2950373
08/04/21 01:08 PM
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Re: Portable Generator [Re: 360view] #2950524
08/04/21 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 360view


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An unlocked handle can trap users' fingers against the generator frame when the generator is moved, posing a risk of finger amputation and crushing,

Having spent several years in engineering some of which involved "idiot proofing" convinced me that no matter how much time & effort was put into the concept, the the first person to walk up would think of something we didn't. And the above article is another example.
It also reminds me of a ex co-worker that had his fingers in a MANUAL sheetmetal brake like the one shown and managed to fracture all 4 of them. WHAT PART OF STOP PULLING ON THE HANDLE WHEN IT STARTS HURTING didn't he understand???
Evidently the same part that the above idiots didn't while lifting the handle to move their generator while it was unlocked. Wonder why the MFR. went to the expense of putting a lock on the handle whistling
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Re: Portable Generator [Re: TJP] #2950564
08/05/21 12:47 AM
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If you can afford a Cummins Standby generator, they power the entire house.


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Re: Portable Generator [Re: 340Cuda] #2952282
08/09/21 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 340Cuda
For those of us that have generators for standby use at our homes, we need to drag them out every thirty days or so and run them, preferably under load.

I shoot for 30 days, probably make 60 and run my generator with an electric heater hooked up.

This is really the only way you know its going to work when you need it.

Data centers will typically run their generators without load once a week and under load once a month.






Yeah the gasoline units really are crap. There's no NG in my neighborhood so I try to periodically run the generator as well and not allow old fuel to sit in it. I guess the next best would be a propane powered unit.

Re: Portable Generator [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #2952347
08/10/21 09:34 AM
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We only have propane available, so I went with a gas unit that will do what we need. I will be running it every 30 days under load, use Staybil 360, and run it dry each time.
Thanks for all the ideas and suggestions.

Re: Portable Generator [Re: 1fastrunner] #2952374
08/10/21 10:27 AM
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I plan to use my large stand by to run the air compressor to keep it fresh and cycling on a regular basis with fresh gas.

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