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F-150 Lightning returns #2924729
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As an electric truck. Standard 426hp / 775lbft, optional 563hp / 775lbft

https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2021/05/electric-ford-lightning-finally-strikes/

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Re: F-150 Lightning returns [Re: SRT6776] #2924742
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775ft/lb is incredible, what's not to like about this? Aside from not making noise, if these things can pull a trailer and have decent range, leave the noise and smell to the car on the trailer.

My only gripe is F150 Lightnings weren't 4 doors. Sorta like when Ram slapped a few stickers on a standard 1500 and called it a Warlock.

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Re: F-150 Lightning returns [Re: A39Coronet] #2924760
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It won't have range. And charging at home will require special electrical that will suck a lot of amps & be expensive. If your power goes out, you are dead in the water.

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Two too many doors.

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That's one Lightning that won't get a second glance like the original does. If I owned a real Lightning I'd be pissed. shout

"Over-the-air updates will keep the Lightning’s software current". Right on, Programmed to Fail worse than things already are now. That'll come in handy when you are in the middle of nowhere and the timer inside it decides to shut down until an "update" is done.

Props to Ford for beating Tesla to market with an electric truck. up


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It is probably the most usefull electric vehicle yet. There is so many contractors that just drive to a jobsite each day and don't leave. They would also have all the power options to run tools etc. My Neighbor is a carpenter and he would buy one these tomorrow I am sure if he didn't just buy a gas F150.


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They're claiming 20,000 reservations already

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Originally Posted by Bad340fish
It is probably the most usefull electric vehicle yet. There is so many contractors that just drive to a jobsite each day and don't leave. They would also have all the power options to run tools etc. My Neighbor is a carpenter and he would buy one these tomorrow I am sure if he didn't just buy a gas F150.


Like a rolling generator right?

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I gotta say I would rather NOT listen to a generator all day.

Don't get me wrong, I am not going to buy one lol but I could see where it would be useful.


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I might get one when it is time to replace my existing truck. I don't do a lot of long road trips anymore so the range should work for me. I think I need around 300 miles of freeway range to feel comfortable and they don't have that quite yet but they might have that much range in the next version.

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The article I read indicated 330 miles of range for the high capacity version. Not bad at all.


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My only gripe is F150 Lightnings weren't 4 doors. Sorta like when Ram slapped a few stickers on a standard 1500 and called it a Warlock. [/quote]


Or a Daytona

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Originally Posted by Blusmbl
The article I read indicated 330 miles of range for the high capacity version. Not bad at all.


I saw that but even without driving one I can guarantee that it won't go 330 miles on the freeway at freeway speeds. The mfgs over rate the range by assuming a "mix" of driving. I don't know if any of this stuff is standardized yet like it is with mileage ratings for gas powered cars but I'm sure it will be shortly. From what I can tell by driving electric cars, the quoted range is determined by driving the car at roughly 35 or 40 miles per hour on flat roads. As soon as you get over 65 mph, or start driving up hills, the actual range plummets. My guess is that the range is only good for about 200 miles at 70 mph.

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Originally Posted by AndyF
Originally Posted by Blusmbl
The article I read indicated 330 miles of range for the high capacity version. Not bad at all.


I saw that but even without driving one I can guarantee that it won't go 330 miles on the freeway at freeway speeds. The mfgs over rate the range by assuming a "mix" of driving. I don't know if any of this stuff is standardized yet like it is with mileage ratings for gas powered cars but I'm sure it will be shortly. From what I can tell by driving electric cars, the quoted range is determined by driving the car at roughly 35 or 40 miles per hour on flat roads. As soon as you get over 65 mph, or start driving up hills, the actual range plummets. My guess is that the range is only good for about 200 miles at 70 mph.


And 50 miles actually using that 775 lb ft towing a trailer??

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Originally Posted by Dcuda69
Originally Posted by AndyF
Originally Posted by Blusmbl
The article I read indicated 330 miles of range for the high capacity version. Not bad at all.


I saw that but even without driving one I can guarantee that it won't go 330 miles on the freeway at freeway speeds. The mfgs over rate the range by assuming a "mix" of driving. I don't know if any of this stuff is standardized yet like it is with mileage ratings for gas powered cars but I'm sure it will be shortly. From what I can tell by driving electric cars, the quoted range is determined by driving the car at roughly 35 or 40 miles per hour on flat roads. As soon as you get over 65 mph, or start driving up hills, the actual range plummets. My guess is that the range is only good for about 200 miles at 70 mph.


And 50 miles actually using that 775 lb ft towing a trailer??


My Cummins and Cat in a medium duty would do pretty well empty, the Cummins ~ 20 MPG, the Cat in an FL Freightliner ~ 14 MPG, load 'em up heavy and it dropped to ~ 6.5, 6.8. Watts are watts, there's watt ratings on both those Diesels, I just don't know what they are, use more watts and the range drops badly. The Cummins loaded needed a fill up ~ 200 miles loaded w/ a 35 gallon tank. Kinda bizarre watching the gauge drop a 1/4 every 50 miles. I presume the electric motor range would suffer similarly. Guessing roughly 1/3 the unloaded range? Gonna make a long day towing anything.

edit: FWIW, the Cat had 660 torque, the Cummins dyno'd at 800 torque. Yes, the Dodge handily out pulled the Freightliner. But the FL was bulletproof, never broke the trans. I broke the trans and the GearVendors in the Dodge, twisted off the input shaft, broke the case in half on the GV in Kentucky. NOT fun hearing trans pieces skittering down the highway at midnight.

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Re: F-150 Lightning returns [Re: 3hundred] #2925060
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I think it is smart...people want 4 door pickups these days. The range is good for an EV, even if it isnt really optimal for towing. The 'lightning' moniker is more apropos in this application...just sayin'. Not a ford guy and if i was buying a 1/2 ton it would be the TRX.

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My wife has a 2001 Lightning. The new version is nothing more than a badge on a modern vehicle. Kinda like a Charger, never made a 4 door til they brought the name back. Seems auto makers go back and see what names/models sold in the day and slap that badge on a new design hoping it help sales.

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Originally Posted by DusterKid
My wife has a 2001 Lightning. The new version is nothing more than a badge on a modern vehicle. Kinda like a Charger, never made a 4 door til they brought the name back. Seems auto makers go back and see what names/models sold in the day and slap that badge on a new design hoping it help sales.


I dont think the new one is supposed to have anything to do with the old one, like a 2000's malibu. Just a name that fits the electric thing. Fords performance truck is the raptor these days

I also fully expect Dodge to do the same thing with the charger but they'll keep it a performance oriented electric with good styling

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Re: F-150 Lightning returns [Re: SRT6776] #2925082
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If you forget about the history of the name as associated with the models of the past, "LIghtning" is actually a great name for an electric vehicle.

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