Very cool for a toy...

Sweet truck. Front end looks mean.

Subtract 2 doors, the tires, half of the cab, the 4wd nonsense, lower it a foot and we might have something.

Oh, and paint it red, electric blue, or sublime instead of some drab earth tone.

tim kunuskis is an Idiot.

2wd pickups are gay.

It seems you miss the point. Completely.

And silver is not an earth tone.

Thank you

4wd's are for people who can't drive........ and that's really faqqing gay.

If you drove a viper truck, you'd eat your words.

As far as 4wd being for people who can't drive, cmon man, you can do better than that. Ive been on well pads in the middle of nowhere with a truck that weighs 7klbs pulling a loaded enclosed job trailer full of incredibly heavy cargo( think natural gas connections for high pressure-3500 psi and above), during freak snow storms or rain storms where there is no road, sorry, 2wd don't even come close to cutting it. You'll have people laugh you right off the site.

There's a time and place for both. Play nice you two.

I am sure a bunch of guys would be lined up for a 700hp, 5500lb, RWD truck - about 12 of them.

10,046 Dodge Ram SRT-10s were manufactured

SRT 10 Ram Production

And, for fair comparison, here's how many Trackhawks were produced in one year:

Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk: 1,693

Awww, I guess the whole World really doesn't need a 700 hp 4wd?

Glad you brought it up though.

During the recent dump of snow here, 7" in my yard which is huge for here, I actually put my work truck in 4wd on the road, only way the steering had any real usefulness, no plowed streets. My girlfriend needed to check on her cat otherwise I would have just stayed in the house.

But other than that I only used 4wd in the oil patch when the lease roads get sloppy.

EXACTLY!

THANK-YOU!

I live on the eastern slopes of the cascade mountains in Washington, 2wd pickups aren’t real desirable here. It’s a regional thing.

I agree.... I was looking late summer and two local dealers were full of trucks when I went shopping for my new one two weeks ago only a few trucks remained on the lots. The dealer I ordered mine from had a few but they were mainly high dollar 1500s. Here in N.J. 2WD trucks are not to common as are regular cab / short bed / 4x4s that's why I had to order mine.

I saw where Motor Trend did a 0-60 test with the TRX. It did 0-60 in 6.8 seconds. Doesn't seem impressive until you realize it did that WITH A 24 FOOT AIRSTREAM TRAILER hooked behind it lol.

Bass azz truck with a bad azz price tag.

I agree. Where I live a 2wd truck is useless.

False.

Damn.....a guy would need a man bun for those. Sorry, not where I live.

Fixed. A gay guy would need a man bun for those.

Same around here. Most people who buy a RWD truck regret it once winter hits and regret it even more when they try to sell it when they decide to upgrade to 4X4.

At the same time they'd probably sell a decent number of RWD TRXs if they they had that as an option.

2wd reg cab street trucks are still a thing here. Nice ones sell quickly and for surprising amounts of money.

I have no use for a moar door pickup. If I was loaded I'd take the TRX engine and put it in an older reg cab shortbed and make a pre-runner style truck for the street.

The dealer near me has 0 cars. All they have is Jeeps and Trucks.

The TRX is a pre runner for the street

Dodge only made RWD "muscle trucks" because they had no cars. The SRT10 was cancelled once the 300 and charger showed up, which is what someone is going to buy when looking for RWD performance

Sticker was $69,995 with options it was $89,465... And I have a perfect example of 2wd vs 4wd. My buddy Tracey and I bought identical trucks in 1995, both V10 club cab long box, except his was 4wd and mine 2wd. I went over to his house about a month after we got them to pick-up some parts and drove into his back yard to get them. My truck got buried up to the axle and he had to pull me out...

Sez the from the UPPER PENINSULA of Meeeeechigan !

He needs THIS to get to his mailbox....

Same/same with that xFlorida guy who now is on some desolate mountain in West Virginny ‘

LOL

How did you Girls survive before the late '90's early 2000's when 4wd's became "mainstream"?

How do School Bus Drivers, Truck Drivers, Soccer Moms and 16 year olds driving beaters survive in your "region"? They'd definitely out-drive you 4x4 Sissy's.

Give me a faqqing break. 4 wheel drives are for Posers.

Me thimks that the GrizZzZzZz wants to get and some MO !

Even the a lot of the ladies around here drove 4wd vehicles. I’ve always had at least one for the last 40 years. Jeep Rubicon now. I can gain 4000 feet of elevation in 9 miles of driving from my driveway, and be looking at Mount Rainier 30 miles in the distance.

LOL...try that with 2WD in March!!! Where you lives matters Grizzly.

Grizz needs a shot of testosterone and a few miles in low range with the diffs locked!

When I lived back East, I went a LOT of places with my beater '72 Coronet Wagon that it shouldn't have. Don't be stupid, I didn't 'rock crawl' with it, but forest service roads were my favorite and I almost got in a fight with someone once because of it. I guess this guy was showing off his 4X4 Bronco to his girl, and had parked in a clearing that they obviously wouldn't have gotten to if they hadn't had four wheel drive .............and I came bombing in, in my wagon, ripped a few doughnuts, then left.

A few moments later he came ripping up behind me, flashing his lights, honking his horn, screaming at me. In his rage, he over corrected at one of the nasty spots, and got stuck. No I didn't stop to offer them a ride. This was long before cell phones and we were at least 4 miles from pavement.

For me I think it was more a matter of I paid $50 for the car and didn't give a rats patooie about it. If I had gotten stuck, I would have pulled the plates and walked away. I never did though.

RWD vs 4 WD depends on the month of the year.

We used to live on a narrow gravel road out in the sticks. We were lucky to see a snow plow down our road within 3 days of a snow storm or after a day when the snow was drifting. A 4x4 was pretty much mandatory if you wanted to go anyplace before the snow plow showed up. My kids rode a school bus, it pretty well followed the snow plow down our road after a snow storm. If the roads were clear, and they were not calling for snow or drifting snow, the 4x4 stayed in the driveway. We had a beat up Ramcharger as a 4x4. Once winter was over, the 4x4 was pretty well parked until the next winter. All that said, 20 years ago we moved into town, and the need for a 4x4 was pretty well gone, but up until 3 years ago, I still had a 4x4 truck here.

We are retired now, we really don't have a need for a 4x4, if the weather is that bad, we stay home. The crazy thing is, I'm building a new to me hot rod pickup, and its a 4x4! I don't need it, and I have no intention of going off road, but the project just sort of fell into my lap so I had to go for it. Gene

Why is that?
I'm married, have no kids and the 6'4" bed is adequate for my work in construction. This one outhandles a stock height 2wd and any 4wd truck. 356,000 miles and still running.
The 4 door trucks look like a minivan with a cargo box to me.

Yes! Something to agree with grizzly on!

If some of you went out and did a real mans days work, lived in a real mans world in a real mans country it may involve a real functional 4wd truck.

I use both of mine daily..... So I say its the sissies driving the 2wd trucks. What good is a 2 wd truck in the real working world? All a 2wd truck is is a car with a big trunk.


Last time I seen a sissy 2wd truck try to actually work around here it had a tire with part of the axle still attached to it waiting on a tractor to get it out of the field.

Yes, Potato, this 2wd Fanatic owns 6, 4 wheel drives. I work all of them and make my living with them. I'm more than qualified to say that TRX is nothing more than a Doosh Wagon, and an SRT 10 Ram is a Man's truck. Notice the real man country, and real man work? There was a 31 degree hill climb a quarter mile long for Blackie in the bottom photo to get out of that work site every day last winter. My Co-Worker with the white Blunder Motors had to get pulled up with the tractor. After climbing that hill without the tow tractor, everybody knew my truck after a few weeks.

Yes you do!

I got to beat a friends SRT10 truck for a day and just wasnt that impressed with it but not sure what I was expecting in the first place though.

I did sorta like the SS454 trucks and the gmc-syclone of the 90-s.

The SRT10 is more truck then this kid could deal with...... Reminds me of an average stang owner as the seem to crash them easily.

WARNING GRAPHIC LANGUAGE NOT FOR CHILDREN

Dude says.... "What Just Happened"

Most 4wd trucks are really 2 wheel drive, driving only one wheel in the front and one in the rear. And even then, the one with the least traction will spin. And at 6,000 lbs, they are hard to get going and stop in the slick. Now obviously they can be set up with rear sure-grip and traction tires, but most don't have either and as such aren't much better than a 2wd with sure-grip and traction tires.

My uncle's old V-6 2wd Dakota had sure-grip, good traction tires, and sand bags in the bed. He could push snow with the front bumper with that thing. Went as good in the slop as almost any 4wd. My dad had a 4wd shivvy for years. One winter we had an ice storm that dumped a full inch of ice on us. His truck was dangerous to try to get out of the driveway. If you actually got it moving, you couldn't stop it. The neighbor had a little AWD Saturn View. It got around very good.

In my experience, 4wd trucks can be set up to work much better than their 2wd counterparts and are an absolute must in some applications. But most are in reality no more capable than a well set up 2wd.

And by the way, I have an '18 4wd Ram with factory 20s that only pulls one front and one rear wheel. I certainly wouldn't trust it to get me out of the slop. But I didn't choose the combo.

Flame away all you 4wd warriors.

The problem with limited slip rear ends is if both tires are spinning they will slip off to the side in certain situations. Open diffs do not. My 92 has a limited slip and gets stuck on wet grass.

'Slipping off to the side' has a little to do with the competency of the driver too, doesn't it? Just like a muscle car?

Just how good of a driver does it take to manage a sure- grip?

I suppose that would depend on what sort of slope you are on. I would agree that in most areas with decent roads 4wd is probably not needed, around here though you can easily slip off the side of a "road" and I use that term loosely, and find yourself tumbling down the side of a mountain. There are plenty of areas around here where running just 6" off the road will get you in big trouble.

Well, having both rear wheels pull also means it is less likely that they will break traction, so there's that. You could make the same argument about pulling both rear tires in a muscle car. It can make a car 'fish-tail' or swerve hard sideways when the tires spin. Just look at the rustangs leaving car shows. Open rears are much less likely to do that. Would you also caution against sure grips in muscle cars, too?

The driver is the key here. Sounds to me like some can handle sure grips..................and some can't.

What keeps most old school 4x4s in 2wd is the transfer case.
You're told not to drive them on paved surfaces or binding/damage/poor steering will happen.
In recent years Ram1500s with the big horn and upper trim levels have a 4x4 auto position.
This you can, and should drive on paved roads, helpful when it rains, snows,ice, etc. like having an AWD vehicle.
Without this feature, most Ram owners will never use their 4x4, as a 4x4!
Wish it was offered on 2500 and 3500 Rams!

Two different animals, I don't know about you but I'm not taking a muscle/drag car or any other car for that matter on some of these roads. When the real estate listing says 4wd needed to access property, they aren't kidding. Besides all of that, you guys are totally discounting that these trucks are used off road as well by some. The TRX is an on/off road vehicle. The GC Hellcat was not. Why would you need a 2wd Hellcat pickup when there are already 2wd vehicles that are Hellcat powered?

You're missing the more fundamental point here. Not really 2 different animals at all. A vehicle with a rear sure grip can require more talent to perform at it's best than one with an open rear. That applies to cars on pavement as well as to trucks off.

If rustangs didn't have both rear wheels pulling, they probably wouldn't have as much trouble staying on the road when leaving events. Similar to your problem keeping your vehicle on the the road when both rear wheels pull.

Sounds to me like (in my best Jack Nickolson voice) "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE SURE GRIP!"

not helping your argument very much with those examples..

Sounds to me like you are clueless as to what is considered a road around here. So whatever Mr. I got the world figured out.

While you might think I am clueless, at least I can handle a sure grip. Both on and off the road.

And I respect that you understand what Dirty Harry meant when he said "A man's got to know his limitations." Which is "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE SURE GRIP!"

Ahhhh .... nuttin like a good FOOD FIGHT .... ...remember that Atari game ?

TRX uses electronic lockers on the rear, not any form of limited slip / sure grip. Don’t know what they do on the front, but if it’s a one wheeler that’s too bad. Real 4wd really benefits from lockers front and rear. Needed mine big time last Saturday in the mud!

No, all you need is a 2wd limited slip. Didn't you read what Dave said?

Funny conversations going on here. I wonder how a person determines the rules that describe what "manly work" is? I spent my life doing auto repair, heavy machine repair, and for the last 30 years or so I ran a one man welding shop, but I didn't drive off the road or cut down trees to haul around. I suppose I didn't do "manly" enough work for some of you guys, but I'm OK with that.

I've owned a lot of Dodge trucks over the years, none of which I bought new. I've owned 2WD and 4x4s, both with sure grips, limited slip, or open rear axles. Some with all season tires, and some with traction tires, and some with real good traction tires. Some were V6, but most were V8, some V8s were bigger then others. I've put most of them through the paces, plowing snow, towing trailers, and full box loads, but nothing I would consider hard labor. I wouldn't consider any of those old Dodge trucks "gay". Each truck was used pretty much for a specific reason at a specific time frame, and I've not been disappointed with any of them. Most were also used for purposes other then the intended use they were purchased for, and most did a pretty good job then as well.

That said, I'm not going to be buying any new car or truck. I've only owned a few vehicles that were built in this century, and I fully intend to keep it that way as long as I can. Just because I'm not buying a new vehicle doesn't mean I think you shouldn't be buying a new vehicle. In my world, I don't need one, but in your world, you might.

I believe a guy has the right to buy any truck he sees fit to buy, weather or not you agree with him. Who are you to think you can determine what someone else should or should not buy? I suspect the guy is buying a truck for his purposes, not yours. Of course, if your going to buy the truck for him, he would still probably happily use it for what he needs it for. Heck, if your buying, I'll happily use one of those gay 2WD trucks, won't bother me in the least.

Are you going to send me a monthly check for gas as well? It will be tough, but I'll deal with one of those Hellcat trucks if your buying and covering the gas. Gene

My 2015 Power Wagon has electronic lockers front and rear. They work very well and the truck is a beast. A 2wd will not follow me very long. They will be like a fish out of water. They all have their purpose. I just have no use for a 2wd in my neck of the woods. I will bet you could go to every New car dealer in my county and not find one. Plus the trade in value up here on a 2wd is next to nothing. Most of the 2wd leg humpers have no idea of what off road is.[lol]

Yep, I totally agree. There is a lot of “living” out there that 2wd simply can’t access. Where I live it can become a matter of your life.....enter winches, recovery straps, snatch blocks etc.

You and Dave don’t know what you are talking about. Stay safe at home on your couch.

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Thanks for making my point Kerny!

Gene and quite a few others on here get it.

I'm surprised Pacnorth gets internet based on the need for a Mule and climbing gear to get to his house.

I can tell you one thing, last month when I did a transport to Alabama with my 2015 Ram 4x4 regular cab and 24' enclosed trailer I would NOT have been able to complete the transport without FOUR WHEEL DRIVE! I can't tell you how many 2wd trucks I saw in the ditches when they got 4" of snow, then and inch of ice, then another 4" of snow on top of it! They have ZERO snow removal equipment and there was nothing than a couple of 2-track ruts in all the roads! Most of the weenies here would have turned around or stopped for the night, my 4wd truck got me through just fine. One road was closed where there was a long hill and every single car and truck that went down that hill wiped out and hit each other. The cops had the road closed and there was a 20' median where I turned around to the other 2 lane road and took another route...

That odd day that happens once every 3 years where it rains and freezes or some other freak storm..........NO ONE should be out on the highway. Keep the damn roads clear for Emergency and Maintenance vehicles to do their jobs. It most cases all you have to do is wait a few hours.

I'm one hell of a Driver but just because I have some 90 thousand dollar Goon Wagon that doesn't give Me a right to be out on the road that day.

None of my points in this thread are directed at you Rhino, I should have mentioned that right from the start.

Considering the advanced age of many members here, it is no wonder that few here can appreciate a 2 door sporty truck. This trend started 30-35 years ago and is still going. Not everyone needs a minivan-truck hybrid.

I had over a dozen of the original sporty 2wd trucks, Lil Red's and Warlocks! I loved each one, and drove a Lil Red daily from 1988-1990, sure wish I hadn't sold them all off...

The guys that scoff at a lowered 2 wheel drive truck are sometimes the same dorks that have a 4 door truck with a 5 foot bed in it.
Idiots.
My 2007 can fit a 6 foot ladder and all my tools for construction. I don't carpool, I don't haul kids around and a 4 door truck isn't going to fit a regular garage.
I don't need 4 wheel drive for any construction site that I have worked. I don't live on a dirt road. It does not snow here.
I've hauled engines, transmissions, body panels, scrap metal, firewood, construction supplies and concrete in this truck. Those that dismiss a 2wd truck are obviously ignorant and slow to understand.

It is all about what suits your needs. Me I have to have a 4wd. No ifs and or buts. I also got the ram box which after having I will buy another with it.

As usual, you misunderstand/misinterpret. That is NOT at all what I have said.

There are thousands (yes thousands) of square miles of wilderness where I live in Central Washington. 4 wheel drive with lockers (Jeep Rubicon) baby! I would not buy a 2 wheel drive pickup here. Two weeks ago I was wheelin and winchin in OVER two feet deep snow.
I don’t live in pussy California.

The misunderstanding started with you. I made the point that limited slips aren't all that and a bag of chips in some situations. Then you went on about Rustangs and whatever so make of that whatever you wish. I really don't care.

The black truck with what appears to be a grand cherokee srt front end looks fantastic, I would rock one of those as a daily, but as I stated before, where I have to go on some jobs, 2wd just will not cut it.

Funny how a thread on the only truck inventory at a dealer being a top of the line factory Hot Rod truck degrades to a bunch of my way or the highway chest thumping arguments!
I had a ‘95 Ram 1500 day cab 6’ bed 4x4 for a long time and it mostly served me well. Shortly after buying it, I was in a meeting room at work and a toxic coworker, whose last name was Bell so we all called him Tinkerbell behind his back, made a comment to someone else in the room that 4WD was the biggest waste of money in the world.
I’m sure it was a passive aggressive cut at me from that insecure loser, since I’d just got a nice truck. So I ignored it rather than take the bait.
But I thought about it later, and he was right, 99% of the time, the other 1% of the time 4WD is priceless. I had a 30 mile drive to work, and getting there or home on some days when we had big snowstorms would have been impossible. I also had a car, but it was rwd. It was not any good for driving in bad snow.
I had issues with the day cab. Not enough room for bags or luggage or much in the way of groceries behind the seat. Stuff I didn’t want to put in the bed even though I had a tonneau cover, so it had to go on the passenger seat or floor. I often wished I had the extended cab on my 1500. I had thoughts of towing a car trailer but the short WB and 1/2 ton rating made it sketchy for that.
Now I’m getting another truck. 3/4 ton this time for towing. 4WD for me due to the weather here, and an experience being with a friend with a 4x2 towing a car trailer, spinning tires on the hill we were parking the rig on at a car show and almost getting stuck. Not to mention resale value as 4WD is pretty much an expectation now on trucks whether people really need it or not! For some reason extended cabs were discontinued a while back, day cab didn’t work out all the time for me with my last truck, so crew cab it is, even if no one ever sits in back. I would have got extended cab if still offered. I need the secure climate controlled inside storage space.
I’m also getting Ram boxes, not available with 8’ beds. I sometimes carry boom sticks to the range, and concerned about transporting them legally when I don’t have a trunk to put them in. The Ram box seems perfect for that, they lock for security and might save me a visit to the lockup! They will also be good for tools and other odds and ends I won’t have to listen to sliding around in the bed.
So I’ve done my homework and considered my needs based on previous experience. I don’t need another “tinkerbell” telling me something is wrong with my choice if it doesn’t meet their standards. Your results may vary!

I currently have 3 trucks and my favorite is actually my 93 2wd dakota, best work truck I have because I can get stuff in and out of the bed without climing up in it and with herniated discs in my back it is very important. It is also much easier to get in to drive than my 2011 1/2 ton 4door 4wd witch I hate the 5 foot bed, the dakota bed is more usefull. I even use the dakota on the dirt roads 40 miles in with no snow plowing ever for hunting on all but the worst days, in that case I use my 04 dakota 4wd 5 speed. I also use the 1/2 ton for towing stuff most everyone thinks they need a 3/4 ton diesel for. It is just hard to find a 2wd around here or else I would only own the 1 4wd for the absolute worst days. All my trucks have a purpose and all get worked very hard when they are doing that specific job. For what it's worth I spent 20 years in Texas and Tennessee before moving back here and NEVER needed a 4wd down there, even on the worst days I always got around just fine.

Exactly, why people think that what works for them should work for everyone else I will never understand.

You and jcc have one thing in common for sure. And it's saying 'I don't care' while responding to a post.

And rustangs is not a proper name, so no need to capitalize. You're welcome.

Very true .. what works for some people doesn’t always work for someone else. My 08 is a quad cab and I rarely used the rear seat .. I think someone sat back there less than a dozen times in the 13 years I have owned it. I can understand the bigger is better thought , I thought about a 2500 quad cab and even a regular cab 8 ft bed imo just too big for my needs and I just dont like the looks of the regular cab / 8 ft bed . I have towed my 20 ft enclosed trailer with my 2WD regular cab short bed 92 D150, a 2002 4.7 3.92 rear Durango and my 08 H.Q.C. All towed well with no problems . My new truck isn’t going to be my daily driver mainly only used for towing , my trailer is only 20 ft with my 3,000 lb Dart I m confident the way I equipped my truck it will be fine. I just really like the regular cab / short bed trucks and the way they look as this will be my third ( I still have my 92) I Am very impressed by the room in the cab and am psyched to get it. Sure a big 2500 would be the ultimate but with the size and cost my 1500 will be fine for my needs. My Honda HRV AWD is my daily driver and is good in the snow I got my new truck in 4WD because even under heavy snow accumulation we have to get out my wife's Acura RDX AWD is also good but we like having the option of using the 4x4 truck if need be. My 92 D150 is 2WD it also has Won trophies at Shows as well as having many round wins as well as over 10 Eliminator Wins as my back up race vehicle. 4WD vs 2WD they both have their purpose based on the owners needs.

Good point.
Making fun of a 2wd truck makes it seem like you're not tough enough if you don't have 4wd. I DO have 4 wheel drive.... in another truck. Besides, if it is reasonable to call someone gay for driving a 2wd truck, is it also reasonable to call the 4wd truck guys tobacco chewin, moonshine sippin, sister banging toothless rednecks?
No, it isn't reasonable to assume either of those things.

Where I live....2wd pickups are gay. Deal with it. LOL...damn, people...lighten up!

I use a truck as a truck, why the he11 would anyone lower and bag a perfectly good pick-em-up truck? If you want that just buy a freakin' car...

Jeez Jim, what did you start?

Which Jim are you referring to?

Day - ummmmm ... ruff crowd here

But this from Square Lake ? ... who WEARS OUT Ram trucks by the dozens ?

A neat looking 2 wd .... attractively slammed !

And to Pac from Washington.....

Isn’t EVERYTHING there gay ?

4WD is only usefull accelerating from 0-5Mph at a stop or red light. Offroading or with a plow in front, still under 5Mph.

It doesn't brake or steer better that 2WD, Tire make that difference.
Even, 4WD worsen the situation by leaving some torque on tire when friction between tire/surface is limited. Tire track best when ''free wheelling''.

For most(99.9%) usage, 4WD is a worthless option.

4WD is for gay driver that want to be seen as men.

If you want to prove that you are not a gay driver, show me how you drive a stick, a 3-tree, super 8, 10-13-15-18 sp,

Let's lower the bar even lower for gay driving skill, can you do a WOT for 20-30sec? With some driver, I wouldn't be afraid to be a passenger, with most other ''TERRIFIED''

WOT for 20-30 seconds?
I'd bet that every slant six owner has done that just getting up to speed on the freeway!

......or with a Granite Gay built 440 ! ...

What is this thread about ?

A) Truck inventory

B) 4wd versus 2wd

C) Gay men

I am confused

D) All of the above

It is obvious what you pleasure. 2wd on uncle Joe's lap on a bumpy road. Phallus lickers like you need to be at gay days in Orlando.

I have a class A CDL, an NHRA license good to 7.50 ET up to a 125" wheelbase, I've driven race cars for six different owners and my own, finished in the top ten in points at my home track every year for the 20+ years I raced and was even a track champion, my W200 has a NP435 , you?

Anything over a 10 speed is because the truck has no torque...

A 2WD Truck is like buying a car with a branded title. You just killed 75%+ of your buyers which murders resale.

I have been a licensed rebuilder here in Illinois for decades. And for the last 15+ years, all we do are rebuilds. Sold 2 yesterday.

You could not be more wrong. On both counts.

We had one truck we serviced regularly that was a 998 cid Mack V8 with a 15 speed transmission in it. I would bet that truck could top 120 MPH.

Just before spring hits after a bad winter people get testy and nearly crazy

forklift tires ?

Guess what? NOT everyone lives in the snow or off of a dirt road.
The country does not revolve around you. Look beyond your own nose.

But a hell of a lot of the country DOES live in those conditions.

In the 90’s I worked with a guy who had just moved up from the Bay Area to Washington and decided to buy a 4wd for winter, and was Shocked To find out his 2wd Blazer wasn’t selling. He got about 1/2 what he expected. Said in CA he would have sold it easy.

You dissing 2wds ... saying there’s almost zero value vs 4wd ...

FIND ME a decent priced 2wd 12 valve with a 355 and I’ll shower you with praise!

You forgot a year of Crazy COVID 19

Take away three weeks in February , mildest winter in WI that I can remember honestly

My best friend owns a few new car dealerships in El Paso, TX and I wanted to buy my wife a clean, low mile AWD SUV from him a few years ago. So I asked him to keep an eye out for something................it was quite a while before he found something and I wondered why. He told me that most dealerships below a certain U.S. latitude do not get AWD or 4x4 vehicles shipped or sent to them and have to be ordered if a customer wants one. Around here (Northern Ohio) the local dealers are loaded with AWD, FWD, 4x4 etc., vehicles being above the U.S. latitude of mud, snow and elevation. I can see in places that are below the "4X4/AWD latitude" there is plenty of need for this type of 4X4 drive line and I wouldn't want to own a rear wheel drive pickup working construction, farm or any place that I needed to get to that wasn't paved......even a long sand driveway or beach area. A little rant about pickup trucks no matter what the drive line is that it seems to me about 50% or more of the owners NEVER use the bed of their pickup and only seemed to have bought one because well, because of the image a pickup has or an image the owner needs. Not saying all but it's pretty rare to see a pickup that has mud on the tires and wheels or looks like it is used like a pickup and not a front wheel drive minivan

Hmm, I have one but not sure I want to sell it and you're cheap.

BUTTTT GEEtar.... since those trucks are VIRTUALLY WORTHLESS.., I could be VERY GENEROUS !

I could also put in a good word for you with the FL/GA border “guards” if you ever try to return to Florida

I get plenty of people asking me if I'd sell it. The answer is always no.

I never said they were not fast, but getting to that speed probably took quite a while, that is what torque is all about and you know it...

Yeah I know, I think that truck was an exception though. That thing was a beast.