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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) [Re: CH3NO2] #28800
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I have a question I've been wondering about chiefly the A/stock cars in the 66-67 period. Somehwhere along the line(I think '67) I know the rules distinguishing SS cars and the 'stockers' changed, but I notice they only called the A/stock cars 'Top Stock' while the rest down to E/S as of '67 were called 'stock'. Were the A/stock cars at that time period still built by same 'stock' rules as the rest of the stock classes or were the A cars allowed more Super Stock parameters, such as any cam or intake etc. I notice in reading some denoting Stahl's 66 Belve A/stock car as an SS car. Just wondering because from what I have read they made it sound as though the A/stock cars were a class unto themselves at that time with different build rules than the rest of the stock class cars. Fred you ran stock class cars back then how did that work with the A cars?

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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) #28802
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Just got these in an email from a buddy today. Have no idea if the car is 'historic' or not or who it even is/was. Anybody recognize?

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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) [Re: CH3NO2] #28803
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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) #28804
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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) [Re: CH3NO2] #28805
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I like those pic's!!!




Steve - Did you ever meet Robert Lindquist (MR Tomato). Pretty big old boy. Car would probably picked up a couple of 10ths with a normal size driver. I went to high school with Robert and he had several cars before the AWB car.

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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) [Re: ram87] #28806
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I just ran across this, not sure if I posted it already, sorry if a duplicate

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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) [Re: ram87] #28807
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I have never met him but he was a friend of my dads. After his son got killed, he quit racing, that's what I heard. Him and Gene Snow used to go at it all the time at the race track.


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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) [Re: CH3NO2] #28808
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How about BOB GEORGES SS/AA DART

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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) [Re: sleepyhead416] #28809
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I'll reply with 1 more!!!!!

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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) [Re: sleepyhead416] #28810
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Speaking of 1967...


B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger in Mopar Muscle (Sold Dec 2021): https://www.hotrod.com/articles/1971-dodge-dart-destiny-determination/
B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger in Dodge Garage (Sold Dec 2021): https://www.dodgegarage.com/news/article/showcase/2019/04/destiny-determination.html
B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger early build pictures (Sold Dec 2021): https://s165.photobucket.com/user/Billswild440dart/library/
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) [Re: B Dartman] #28811
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B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger in Mopar Muscle (Sold Dec 2021): https://www.hotrod.com/articles/1971-dodge-dart-destiny-determination/
B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger in Dodge Garage (Sold Dec 2021): https://www.dodgegarage.com/news/article/showcase/2019/04/destiny-determination.html
B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger early build pictures (Sold Dec 2021): https://s165.photobucket.com/user/Billswild440dart/library/
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) [Re: B Dartman] #28812
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Were S & M, or any other Mopar teams, dynoing their motors back then, or at what point? Just curious what the HP differences were in the span between say '68 and '73. The induction systems sure changed, then more radical camshafts, the newer design heads et al. Just curious to know what kind of true HP the factory SS/A and SS/B cars were making relative to what levels it had progressed to by the time pro stock was in full swing.

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Here's a Chrysler Corp 426 Hemi Dyno sheet from the engineers in 1965!

Dyno Sheet


B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger in Mopar Muscle (Sold Dec 2021): https://www.hotrod.com/articles/1971-dodge-dart-destiny-determination/
B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger in Dodge Garage (Sold Dec 2021): https://www.dodgegarage.com/news/article/showcase/2019/04/destiny-determination.html
B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger early build pictures (Sold Dec 2021): https://s165.photobucket.com/user/Billswild440dart/library/
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) [Re: B Dartman] #28814
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I've seen that Bill, pretty cool. I guess pretty much all the way through that period say mid 60s-early 70s, Chrysler was doing all the engine dynoing and just relaying to the drag teams what to use? I look at the way the Hemis were in terms of build in the eary-mid 70s, especially after seeing many of Stuart and Fred's pics and the difference blows my mind. Like night and day. Seems like there must have been a pretty momentous increase in HP just in that short time span. BTW, we seem to be getting an inch deep and a mile wide on the post view. Wonder what happened? Posts have gone real wide for some reason or is it just my comp??

Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) #28815
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NHRA Pict of the Week...Big Jim Dunn

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B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger in Mopar Muscle (Sold Dec 2021): https://www.hotrod.com/articles/1971-dodge-dart-destiny-determination/
B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger in Dodge Garage (Sold Dec 2021): https://www.dodgegarage.com/news/article/showcase/2019/04/destiny-determination.html
B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger early build pictures (Sold Dec 2021): https://s165.photobucket.com/user/Billswild440dart/library/
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) [Re: B Dartman] #28816
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It really doesn't matter whether you win or lose…
as long as you look good doing it!

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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) [Re: Hemi_Jack] #28817
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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) [Re: B_Body_Bob] #28818
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Great pics. Were the 70 model 6 pack cars in the same SS class as the street Hemis? I thought the 70 street Hemi Cudas were also SS/D at that time.

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Dave Wren raced the car with hemi power.

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