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511 hemi power ? #2881130
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hi

how much power should this hemi make ?

10.5 -1 comp

511 cu in 4.250 bore 4.5 stroke 7.100 rods

cam is a roller 236 / 244 @50 solid

mopar peform heads alu

2 625 e brock avs carbs inline stock intake

2" headers


thank you !

Re: 511 hemi power ? [Re: calrobb2000] #2881141
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Originally Posted by calrobb2000

hi

how much power should this hemi make ?

10.5 -1 comp

511 cu in 4.250 bore 4.5 stroke 7.100 rods

cam is a roller 236 / 244 @50 solid

mopar peform heads alu

2 625 e brock avs carbs inline stock intake

2" headers. thank you !

I've built similar motors that made above 600 HP after sorting out the aftermarket carbs. All the ones I built and dyno tested for customers that had the original street hemi carbs with similar parts all made above 600 HP with stock jetting up
Is your intake manifold stock? If so make sure and replace the right rear secondary jet(rear carb) with a .075 I.D or smaller tp start with, do NOT leave the stock jet in that carb tsk It will flood #8 cylinder, those intakes had similar jetting on all the stock street hemi carbs from the factory 1966 to 1971, they had either .065 or .063 in them stock scope

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Re: 511 hemi power ? [Re: calrobb2000] #2881148
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Originally Posted by calrobb2000

hi

how much power should this hemi make ?

10.5 -1 comp

511 cu in 4.250 bore 4.5 stroke 7.100 rods

cam is a roller 236 / 244 @50 solid

mopar peform heads alu

2 625 e brock avs carbs inline stock intake



Should make decent torque, not a ton of power with stock intake and a 236/244 cam. Bet it runs really nice on the street though.

Re: 511 hemi power ? [Re: AndyF] #2881187
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Had a similar engine years ago, but with more cam. Only made 480hp to the wheels. Your missing 100hp with that cam and heads. But it will be well mannered and very drivable. Just won't be an angry monster when you step on it. I ran a hyd cam like that in a 340. +.030......Ran 12.0 with one 750 on it.

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Re: 511 hemi power ? [Re: calrobb2000] #2881200
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I have those heads on my Hemi. MCH ported them a few years ago. My combo is 540", 250* FTS, Indy dual plane, 1050 Dom.

Made over 650HP during break-in. Made a few more ponies with the single plane, but the throttle response and torque was so much better with the DP.

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Your cam and headers are on the small side which will hold the numbers down some, but will make for a very streetable combo.

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Re: 511 hemi power ? [Re: calrobb2000] #2881202
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Its my understanding Hemi's are less prone to detonation. I would put more compression in it and then if you ever go to a larger cam in the future, you will have the compression for it. Compression can be your friend.

Re: 511 hemi power ? [Re: mopar dave] #2881209
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Originally Posted by mopar dave
Its my understanding Hemi's are less prone to detonation. I would put more compression in it and then if you ever go to a larger cam in the future, you will have the compression for it. Compression can be your friend.


I ordered my reciprocating assembly and cam from Ray Barton. Spoke to him directly when ordering and I had wanted more comp, too. He said that Hemis do respond well to additional compression. But for a street car, finding the right gasoline is getting to be more and more of an issue. He suggested 10.25 for mine as it is primarily street. The lower comp ratio does leave some power on the table, but if I wanted more power, he suggested finding it somewhere else such as throwing some more displacement at it. Again, this is for a primarily street driven car.

I run 91 pump swill with no problems even on the hottest days. It might be happy with even less octane, but 91 is readily available most everywhere I go, so I run it. The only concession I make to gas is that I only run Top-Tier rated gasoline.

https://toptiergas.com/licensed-brands/


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Re: 511 hemi power ? [Re: DaveRS23] #2881218
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The MP 528 crate hemi was rated at 610hp, and that was with more cam and a single plane intake.
I don’t see why the hp/ci would be much different between the two........ so I’ll call it a little under 600hp.

That would assume the heads are unported.


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Re: 511 hemi power ? [Re: DaveRS23] #2881225
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Barton knows way more than I, but i would have put that at 11.25:1 on Michigan pump gas. I ran a 408@11.25:1 on 93 on the street and the track and now a 511@12.5:1 with 1 can of 110/113 Dragon and 2 cans 93 Sunoco mixed makes about 101 octane and works real nice. When the 511 was 11.25:1(200psi cranking) i also ran it on 93 pump gas(175 cranking) without an issues, so was just making a suggestion, but i understand where your at with that. Piece of mind is worth alot.

Re: 511 hemi power ? [Re: mopar dave] #2881235
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I ran right at 11:1 on my al head 499 wedge. Did okay on 93 most of the time. But it didn't like anything but 93 and in hot weather with some heat soak it would hit the starter when cranking.

I built a 540 rather than a 572. I went with the dual plane rather than the single. I stayed with the 1050 even though it was starting to pull some vac. I went with a flat tappet rather than a roller. I went with the MP Eddy heads rather than some other 'better' heads that would have been more expensive in this situation.

What I am trying to say is that I completely agreed with Barton that if I wanted more power, there were a ton of other ways to get it. I don't know if you have ever been in a position of searching for a particular gasoline that your engine will run on when out cruising, but I have. And it can be a real pain. All those compromises that I made were in the search for driveability while keeping up a reasonable level of performance that is expected for a Hemi.

As it is, even with Cal-Tracs and MT drag radials, traction is always an issue. More power would only be able to be used in fewer situations than I can use now. With a street car, there has to be a compromise between just enjoying driving the car and all-out, every pony possible performance.


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Re: 511 hemi power ? [Re: Cab_Burge] #2881250
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge

I've built similar motors that made above 6000 HP after sorting out the aftermarket carbs. All the ones I built and dyno tested for customers that had the original street hemi carbs with similar parts all made above 600 HP with stock jetting up
Is your intake manifold stock? If so make sure and replace the right rear secondary jet(rear carb) with a .075 I.D or smaller tp start with, do NOT leave the stock jet in that carb tsk It will flood #8 cylinder, those intakes had similar jetting on all the stock street hemi carbs from the factory 1966 to 1971, they had either .065 or .063 in them stock scope


made above 6000 HP?


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Re: 511 hemi power ? [Re: GomangoCuda] #2881327
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Originally Posted by GomangoCuda
Originally Posted by Cab_Burge

I've built similar motors that made above 6000 HP after sorting out the aftermarket carbs. All the ones I built and dyno tested for customers that had the original street hemi carbs with similar parts all made above 600 HP with stock jetting up
Is your intake manifold stock? If so make sure and replace the right rear secondary jet(rear carb) with a .075 I.D or smaller tp start with, do NOT leave the stock jet in that carb tsk It will flood #8 cylinder, those intakes had similar jetting on all the stock street hemi carbs from the factory 1966 to 1971, they had either .065 or .063 in them stock scope


made above 6000 HP?
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Re: 511 hemi power ? [Re: DaveRS23] #2881341
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Yep, i absolutely know what your saying. I liked shell premium and it was getting hard to find in my area and now no where to be found close by. Sunoco is getting hard to find now too. Mobil is one i used to use in a pinch and can find it most any where.

Re: 511 hemi power ? [Re: calrobb2000] #2881377
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It sounds like a stump puller, probably be alot of fun to drive and should have good street manners.


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hi all

yes it is very well mannered , only drove it once around the block last year to test the rev limiter .

hope to get it out next summer for some good drives and a trip or three to the track .

not a fuel dragster but what would you do with that much power , the street will only allow so much to be used,

running any brand fuel is a plus for street cruseing for me. i want to drive it to some shows that are 100 + miles one way .

thank you !

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[i][/i] I think Barton gave you sound advice on the compression. Hemis love compression but you have to be realistic about the availability of good fuel.

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Re: 511 hemi power ? [Re: DaveRS23] #2881664
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And let's face it, an extra point of compression in this situation would be worth, what.......15hp, 20hp? Any more than that? Is that really worth the extra difficulty finding the right fuel not to mention the expense?


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