Re: Questions for the older LEO car people.
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Could be for a siren. Some modern police cars have hidden starter safety buttons in the floor so it could be something like that too.
It wasnt uncommon for smaller police departments to buy their own non-traditional police cars, some even used their own personal vehicles
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Re: Questions for the older LEO car people.
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Search tune radios in that era had foot controls that kinda resembled high beam switches. Doesn't seem like a thing you'd have in cop car though.
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Re: Questions for the older LEO car people.
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Re: Questions for the older LEO car people.
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My magnum had 2 buttons on the floor 1 for highbeam and ther other would change stations ony stereo
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Re: Questions for the older LEO car people.
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Yes, that extra dimmer switch could have been for intermittent siren use and/or hands free transmitting when driving high speed. Hit the switch to talk, and as the same time it cuts the siren off so the officer could be heard.
Some of those old school sirens could be extremely loud.
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Re: Questions for the older LEO car people.
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My guess is siren also. Later, a lot of them were wired into factory horn button for quickly clearing intersections.
I doubt it was a microphone.
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Re: Questions for the older LEO car people.
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Re: Questions for the older LEO car people.
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Pretty cool! How common is the rubber floor covering in that year RR? I've only seen carpet. We need more pics!
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Re: Questions for the older LEO car people.
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My magnum had 2 buttons on the floor 1 for highbeam and ther other would change stations ony stereo i had a 76 new yorker with the same switch to change the radio stations. as earlier posted. sure it isn't a satellite? i don't remember ever seeing seen a road runner with a rubber mat.
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Re: Questions for the older LEO car people.
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My magnum had 2 buttons on the floor 1 for highbeam and ther other would change stations ony stereo i had a 76 new yorker with the same switch to change the radio stations. as earlier posted. sure it isn't a satellite? i don't remember ever seeing seen a road runner with a rubber mat. except for a 1968 Road Runner.......................?
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Re: Questions for the older LEO car people.
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Here are some pics. It's rough. I knew the guy who owned it before me we went to high school together. I have had the car in storage for a long while and decided to get it squared away and running. The button on the floor made me wonder if the police pursuit vehicle story was true or not.
It was a Radio delete car so the channel switching button may not apply. It isn't connected to anything but neither are the front lights behind the grill. There is an obvious hack into the headlight harness between the cruise and the battery. A place nobody would normally mess with. The car was stripped of the AC and the engine harness hacked to the point the Electronic ignition wouldn't work. It was running on a dual points distributor. No telling how much electrical carnage went on under the hood. Under dash looks great so far. When I first got it I had to bypass the bulkhead connector to the ammeter. I did this with simple wires though the firewall to the ammeter.
The fender tag lists a Red stripe and a Stripe delete code. I found this to mean the side stripe was not installed but he hood had the red stripe. It was silver when new, Red when I first saw it and primed when I bought it so I never saw any indication of stripes anywhere. When I got it, it had a GTX dash emblem where normally a Road Runner emblem would be. I doubt that was OEM but I have never seen an original 74 440RR except this one so I call it a GTX. I know it should have had the GTX emblems on the hood.
I didn't think the door panels were stock because I had never seen them without the wood grain but I found out that is the style for the lowest level base model interior which may also included a rubber mat instead of carpet. B2X9 on the fender tag.
The combination of luxury (AC. Cruise, & Power Windows) and the Big engine, base interior, side stripe delete, (presumably for police logo space), and no radio makes sense for a police car of that time but again I have no proof.
Combined with the shotgun rack, hole for the antenna below the rear window, the lights behind the grill, and the air blocks under the front end for high speed driving it makes sense. At least those were the descriptions I was told for those things. Also most police cars I have seen didn't use carpet for obvious reasons. Easier to clean.
It came outta California a long time ago.
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Re: Questions for the older LEO car people.
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It may have been an FBI car. The FBI used weird combinations of equipment compared to other government fleets. I had several undercovers from them and they had factory side trim, full wheelcovers, and some even had vinyl roofs to complete the disguise. In the mid-'70's the State of Pennsylvania ran small Fury (B-body) 2-door undercover cars that also were equipped with 'better' exterior trim.
Have you tried getting a Build Card from FCA? That would probably be helpful.
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Re: Questions for the older LEO car people.
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My guess is it was a switch someone installed to turn those lights behind the grille on and off and first thought seeing those is someone installed them because they thought it looked cool not that they were hidden police lights.
Police cars back then hardly ever had power widows. Most didn't even have AC and they also usually didn't have cruise. To me it seems more like someone wanted a base car to make it more affordable or because it was lighter but wanted a few of the conveniences.
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Re: Questions for the older LEO car people.
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When I first started, had a Lt. tell me when he was a rookie, they tried (didn't last long) a flip switch that would open the mic so you could talk hands free, making traffic stops and pursuits especially much easier. He said that idea was a bad one because too many forgot to switch back off, and you can imagine the rest. I remember him saying it was somewhere up, like maybe even the headliner area, so it wouldn't get accidentally flipped.
Facts are stubborn things.
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Re: Questions for the older LEO car people.
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When I first started, back in the 1930s - had a Lt. tell me when he was a rookie, they tried (didn't last long) a flip switch in the horse drawn carriage - that would open the mic so you could talk hands free, making traffic stops and pursuits especially much easier. He said that idea was a bad one because too many forgot to switch back off, and you can imagine the rest. I remember him saying it was somewhere up, like maybe even the headliner area, so it wouldn't get accidentally flipped. FIXED ... the mostest elderly ONE here .... Hey Larry's not that old. hung out at his place a couple times and the 408 in his cop car is awesome. and he gave me my first ride in the front seat of a cop car...LOL! I am running the cop car engine out of that car in my stepside with a whiplash roller cam now. thanks for that sweet deal Larry.
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Re: Questions for the older LEO car people.
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When I first started, back in the 1930s - had a Lt. tell me when he was a rookie, they tried (didn't last long) a flip switch in the horse drawn carriage - that would open the mic so you could talk hands free, making traffic stops and pursuits especially much easier. He said that idea was a bad one because too many forgot to switch back off, and you can imagine the rest. I remember him saying it was somewhere up, like maybe even the headliner area, so it wouldn't get accidentally flipped. FIXED ... the mostest elderly ONE here .... Hey Larry's not that old. hung out at his place a couple times and the 408 in his cop car is awesome. and he gave me my first ride in the front seat of a cop car...LOL! I am running the cop car engine out of that car in my stepside with a whiplash roller cam now. thanks for that sweet deal Larry. Lol, true story And I've still got a box for you all ready to go, just got to get to P.O. and get it shipped!!!
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Re: Questions for the older LEO car people.
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When I first started, back in the 1930s - had a Lt. tell me when he was a rookie, they tried (didn't last long) a flip switch in the horse drawn carriage - that would open the mic so you could talk hands free, making traffic stops and pursuits especially much easier. He said that idea was a bad one because too many forgot to switch back off, and you can imagine the rest. I remember him saying it was somewhere up, like maybe even the headliner area, so it wouldn't get accidentally flipped. FIXED ... the mostest elderly ONE here .... It was our horses actually, and we had bells and whistles!
Facts are stubborn things.
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Re: Questions for the older LEO car people.
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My magnum had 2 buttons on the floor 1 for highbeam and ther other would change stations ony stereo i had a 76 new yorker with the same switch to change the radio stations. as earlier posted. sure it isn't a satellite? i don't remember ever seeing seen a road runner with a rubber mat. except for a 1968 Road Runner.......................? I had a 73 rm21 roadrunner 318 4 spd.......................... that was a rubber mat
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