Putting late model 360 in 68 Dart
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My customer threw a rod in the 273 in his Dart. We're looking for a used late model 360, found a 97 van w a 5.9 for $400.....What needs to be changed, besides maybe the radiator ? We may use the factory EFI or put a intake/carb on it. Any suggestions here? Probably will replace the factory exhaust man, w headers.
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Take care, Rick 68 Coronet R/T 440 & 68 Charger 528 Hemi,and 5 Challengers! 6 cyl, 318, 360, 383, 451
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Re: Putting late model 360 in 68 Dart
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Off the top of my head- passenger car oil pan & pickup. Over on FABO I believe there was a thread about Magnum manifolds in an early A ('66-back) and van manifolds were said to fit very well so probably good in a '67-up A. If you want to run the Magnum serpentine belt using Magnum parts AND a carbed intake, you will just about have to use an Edelbrock intake to clear the a/c compressor. No a/c, you can use the Crosswind intake. Also if you go carbed, either an electric fuel pump or swapping over all LA front cover parts and an adapter for the cam to run a mechanical pump. Not sure on the radiator but thinking about a similar swap myself. Tim
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Re: Putting late model 360 in 68 Dart
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I swapped a 100k mile 1999 5.9 Magnum in my '68, and love it. I went with EFI, A/C and the serpentine belt set-up. Later, I stroked it to 408 ci and added a 4 speed automatic with lock-up converter. My next step is to supercharge it and inject methanol. That should bring it into the high 10 second range. Makes a great street strip motor.
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Re: Putting late model 360 in 68 Dart
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You'll need to drill and weld a tab on both of the engine brackets. It needs the proper balance flexplate/or converter. The bypass hose angle from the magnum intake to a standard LA water pump needs a 45 degree adapter and the hose needs to be trimmed shorter. The throttle linkage brackets can be bent to work. Some early timing covers have a power steering boss as part of the casting. Different year timing covers and dampners have the timing marks and lower hose outlets on opposite sides. You need a car pan if it's a truck motor. I'm installing a Magnum in a 68 Satellite. See here https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/threads/garage-360-build-how-i-do-it.187572/Doug
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Re: Putting late model 360 in 68 Dart
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van is a better choice. The ps pump tucks in closer to the motor. otherwise it sticks out too far under the battery tray. Few things. the la pan needs the la gasket. don't use the magnum gasket, it leaks out the front and back. a guy with welding skills cut up the mag pan and put the ends on the la pan to use the 1 piece mag gasket. they used to make an adapter plate for the balance issues but only for the 727. discontinued now. Some used it on the 904 by slotting a hole. Don't know how well that worked. the throttle cable and kick down cable can be pulled from the van and adapted to the other pedals. But you have to get the parts off the transmission in the van. Where the kick down bolts up to. There were a couple of pieces as I remeber. This only matters if you are keeping the factory Throttle body and efi. if you go carb, don't bother. https://imgur.com/t5CDmK42 different sizes. one is the post on the kick down /shifter part, the second bolts on the side to hold the cable at the transmission. kind of see it here on the car https://imgur.com/TKWnU9n
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Re: Putting late model 360 in 68 Dart
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"A van is a better choice. The ps pump tucks in closer to the motor. otherwise it sticks out too far under the battery tray."
FWIW.... I got around this issue by installing a narrower battery and trimming the battery tray, as 5.9 van 5.9's are harder to find.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's 1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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Re: Putting late model 360 in 68 Dart
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Thanks everyone for the great info....especially the link to that for abodies only thread.
Take care, Rick 68 Coronet R/T 440 & 68 Charger 528 Hemi,and 5 Challengers! 6 cyl, 318, 360, 383, 451
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Re: Putting late model 360 in 68 Dart
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The 97 Van has been bought for $400 it runs like a top, has about 150K on it !
Take care, Rick 68 Coronet R/T 440 & 68 Charger 528 Hemi,and 5 Challengers! 6 cyl, 318, 360, 383, 451
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