Re: The official Coronavirus thread
[Re: jcc]
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03/30/20 03:47 PM
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The 2.2 million still applies if we decide to do nothing, and go back to business as normal and treat it like the flu. Honestly, I think Fauci knows the total will be more than 100-200k, he's just warming the country up to the idea
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
[Re: jcc]
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03/30/20 04:02 PM
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Times are surreal. Today, with deaths just above 2,000, this is first time top officials have announced the COVID deaths could reach in the US 200,000 to 100,000 deaths, and if kept to 100K, "that would be a very good job". And the stock market is up 500+ points. We have truly lost our way. I thought human life was valued higher. In context... That response was in reference to whether or not he thought we were going to see the 2.2million deaths some of the doom&gloom say'ers were predicting. I guess if one is a "numbers guy" its a good job.. What next, there were only 5000 lynchings, or only 35,000 traffic deaths, only 6,000,000 gassings, etc? These are people, some really good folk, with families, that die a horrible death, often all alone, etc I don't hear any sincere "caring", just "as long a it doesn't effect me" thinking. We know one definitive way to stop this in its tracks, but The DJ and everybody's wallet is apparently more important. Prepare to explain this in-action to your maker, sometime in the future, or what a "good job" you did. All I'll say is...shame shame shame to a number of certain folks out there, they will pay.....in the end.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
[Re: jcc]
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03/30/20 04:13 PM
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Times are surreal. Today, with deaths just above 2,000, this is first time top officials have announced the COVID deaths could reach in the US 200,000 to 100,000 deaths, and if kept to 100K, "that would be a very good job". And the stock market is up 500+ points. We have truly lost our way. I thought human life was valued higher. In context... That response was in reference to whether or not he thought we were going to see the 2.2million deaths some of the doom&gloom say'ers were predicting. I guess if one is a "numbers guy" its a good job.. What next, there were only 5000 lynchings, or only 35,000 traffic deaths, only 6,000,000 gassings, etc? These are people, some really good folk, with families, that die a horrible death, often all alone, etcI don't hear any sincere "caring", just "as long a it doesn't effect me" thinking. We know one definitive way to stop this in its tracks, but The DJ and everybody's wallet is apparently more important. Prepare to explain this in-action to your maker, sometime in the future, or what a "good job" you did. so what about all the good folks dying from the flu every year? 24,000 of them in the US so far this year... 80,000 a few years ago during a big spike. Or the MILLIONS that are never even given the chance to be Born? I don't think the Doc... was looking at it as "doing a good job".... He was looking at it as "Trying to tone down the sensationalism & panic" being tossed out by some in the media
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/30/20 04:30 PM
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The only way some folk will will ever learn is if it smacks them in the forehead and yells "Wake the phuck up". It may take one of their love one getting hit by this virus to understand that this is "NO JOKE".
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
[Re: jcc]
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03/30/20 05:47 PM
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Hey, we all are equally ignorant on the subject, just some more then others, and most here are here to learn something IMO, and I do everyday.
Having my written comments peer reviewed are useful, not always agreed with, but read none the less.
PS to be clear, I define "ignorant" as lack of knowledge, "stupidity" has a different meaning, and is of little use in discussions, its often inflammatory/escalating and normally not a personal choice, IMO. x 999 ... let’s just all try to be as constructive as possible with comments and ideas Oh ... I heard from someone at the Dr Baden site ... they/he said ... not retired. I would imagine he gets a bunch of emails so a short response like that I don’t consider curt or rude. I did ask in return if he participated in any autopsy of a virus death ... have yet to hear back. I’m wondering if most of the immunity FIGHT is going on in the lungs .... MAYBE they should be looking into meds that could be INHALED??
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/30/20 05:56 PM
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Hey, we all are equally ignorant on the subject, just some more then others, and most here are here to learn something IMO, and I do everyday.
Having my written comments peer reviewed are useful, not always agreed with, but read none the less. PS to be clear, I define "ignorant" as lack of knowledge, "stupidity" has a different meaning, and is of little use in discussions, its often inflammatory/escalating and normally not a personal choice, IMO. x 999 ... let’s just all try to be as constructive as possible with comments and ideas Oh ... I heard from someone at the Dr Baden site ... they/he said ... not retired. I would imagine he gets a bunch of emails so a short response like that I don’t consider curt or rude. I did ask in return if he participated in any autopsy of a virus death ... have yet to hear back. I’m wondering if most of the immunity FIGHT is going on in the lungs .... MAYBE they should be looking into meds that could be INHALED?? i missed that post- what university did u get your med degree at??????
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/30/20 06:07 PM
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Focus FRENCHY .... open your eyes and read the wise-azz post that asked THAT some time ago .... i think you should get into your valiant... and cruise around [censored]
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/30/20 06:39 PM
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Did I hear correctly the being passed paid sick leave act exempts companies with over 500 workers? looks like it: Bill <- Click Unless ammended Re the 1918 Pandemic there was a lot of unintentional social distancing with few cars, few roads and thoroughfares, lots of farms and relatively small population compared with today. Apparently the Spanish Flu (nothing to do with Spain) was mostly spread by returning troops huddled up in troop ships and in huge army camps all over Europe waiting to return home, plus with poor diets and conditions immune systems were affected.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
[Re: fullonmopar]
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03/30/20 06:51 PM
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Nat'l Institute of Health <- Click the above is a link to a page regularly updated with research info (not news stories). It takes some reading and also following links for those inclined to find facts. The below Link : is to the agency headed by Dr Fauci: click -> Nat'l Institute of Allergy and Infectious DiseasesThere is a LOT of information and biased reporting going on. I find it good to research and develop my opinion from the source, others may too. I've bookmarked those sites and check them occasionally. dOC F - I believe arbuterol (sp?) is prescribed to people first dx with the virus. It's an inhaler and it only helps open up the lung passageways. The medical professionals work quietly in their labs coming up with treatments and vaccinations. I do not believe there is, or may ever be, "a cure" only treatments to help with symptoms and hopefully some day a vaccine that will help people make antibodies that prevent "catching" th virus. Much of this info is in the first part of the thread.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
[Re: fullonmopar]
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03/30/20 06:58 PM
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Did I hear correctly the being passed paid sick leave act exempts companies with over 500 workers? looks like it: Bill <- Click Unless ammended Re the 1918 Pandemic there was a lot of unintentional social distancing with few cars, few roads and thoroughfares, lots of farms and relatively small population compared with today. Apparently the Spanish Flu (nothing to do with Spain) was mostly spread by returning troops huddled up in troop ships and in huge army camps all over Europe waiting to return home, plus with poor diets and conditions immune systems were affected. And yet to spread to the far corners of the Earth, including remote Alaskan Eskimo villages that didn’t have ANYBODY COME IN OR OUT. Village didn’t even have migratory birds. Source...”Flu” by Gina Kolata. It’s spread is not understood, to this day.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/30/20 08:27 PM
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Hey, we all are equally ignorant on the subject, just some more then others, and most here are here to learn something IMO, and I do everyday.
Having my written comments peer reviewed are useful, not always agreed with, but read none the less. PS to be clear, I define "ignorant" as lack of knowledge, "stupidity" has a different meaning, and is of little use in discussions, its often inflammatory/escalating and normally not a personal choice, IMO. x 999 ... let’s just all try to be as constructive as possible with comments and ideas Oh ... I heard from someone at the Dr Baden site ... they/he said ... not retired. I would imagine he gets a bunch of emails so a short response like that I don’t consider curt or rude. I did ask in return if he participated in any autopsy of a virus death ... have yet to hear back. I’m wondering if most of the immunity FIGHT is going on in the lungs .... MAYBE they should be looking into meds that could be INHALED?? i missed that post- what university did u get your med degree at?????? You missed the point, its doesn't require a degree of at any level to have bias, and integrity is also not a requirement. Defending OJ when not a lawyer, says to me a person has/had a proven selective morality, that money and/or fame can influence, IMO
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
[Re: fullonmopar]
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03/30/20 08:49 PM
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Did I hear correctly the being passed paid sick leave act exempts companies with over 500 workers? looks like it: Bill <- Click Unless ammended Re the 1918 Pandemic there was a lot of unintentional social distancing with few cars, few roads and thoroughfares, lots of farms and relatively small population compared with today. Apparently the Spanish Flu (nothing to do with Spain) was mostly spread by returning troops huddled up in troop ships and in huge army camps all over Europe waiting to return home, plus with poor diets and conditions immune systems were affected. And all the time spent elbow to elbow bleeding all over each other in the trenches...
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/31/20 03:18 AM
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Anybody see the connection here, between troop ships and cruise ships? And nursing homes... Lots of people in daily continuous close proximity to each other and in the case of a nursing home, lots of potential for contamination from outside the group to stew there. Kevin
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/31/20 04:04 AM
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The only way some folk will will ever learn is if it smacks them in the forehead and yells "Wake the phuck up". It may take one of their love one getting hit by this virus to understand that this is "NO JOKE". Some people are just not capable of that. A chemical imbalance prevents them from understanding.
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