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Duals on an F Body????????? #270716
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Could not find past post/thread regarding moving the tank over one strap to clearence duals out the back. If any one has done this could you let me know about any modifications needed to the gas tank neck if any. Mine dump through the springs behind the tires on the 79 Wagon and it looks so Chebbie Tried sending them back from there but looked too Mustangy
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Re: Duals on an F Body????????? [Re: Butt Ugly] #270717
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the filler neck needs to be cut or lengthened you can cut the neck and splice it back together with fuel hose available at napa or any other parts store.

Re: Duals on an F Body????????? [Re: bnichols] #270718
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What year is your Volare, Jeff? If it has the later style fuel tank (late '77 and up, like M-bodies) you can move it over. Here's the best pic of an M-body using an A-body dual exhaust kit with the fuel tank moved over for driver's side clearance: http://www.angelfire.com/ca/mikesspot/exhaust.html

Re: Duals on an F Body????????? [Re: In_The_Pink] #270719
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On some cars there is a hump on the top of the tank for a vent, with a similar hump in the trunk floor for it to fit into. On my original tank, this area was flat but because of rust I had to replace it. I was planning on moving the tank over as well, trouble was, I could only get a new tank that had the hump in it so I couldn't move it over unless I modified the tank and/or trunk floor.

For now, the exhaust just dumps as the axle but I want it to go to the bumper.

Re: Duals on an F Body????????? [Re: Butt Ugly] #270720
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I own a 79 Volare premier wagon ( 318 )and went through the same girations trying to put dual exhausts on it a few years back. I went and bought a dual exhaust system ( 2" ) for a 78 Dodge pick up truck and modified it to fit. Didn't do any tank relocating. Lots of cutting and fitting going over the axle and between the springs and the body, but I did have enough pipe with the truck exhaust system to get the job done. They exit out-board of the springs and straight back under the bumper. You will be an excellent gas welder by the time you are done!


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Re: Duals on an F Body????????? [Re: Crizila] #270721
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They exit out-board of the springs and straight back under the bumper. You will be an excellent gas welder by the time you are done!




That's the "Mustang" look the O.P. was trying to avoid. There is room to run a 2.5" tailpipe between the early fuel tank and spring, but there's only 1/4" clearance on either side-- not good.

If you want the exhaust to terminate under the rear bumper inboard of the springs, switching to the later style tank is the way to go. One good thing about this swap is the later style fuel sending units are easily found, and you can sell your old sending unit since NOS pieces are NS1.

Re: Duals on an F Body????????? [Re: 440newport] #270722
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On some cars there is a hump on the top of the tank for a vent, with a similar hump in the trunk floor for it to fit into. On my original tank, this area was flat but because of rust I had to replace it.




76 and early 77 F bodies had a "humpbacked" fuel tank and the 2 types are not interchangeable. The filler tube, sending unit and straps are different. If you want to use the later "wedge shaped" tank you should change the trunk pan for proper fit.
(76-early 77 left, early 77-80 right)

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Re: Duals on an F Body????????? [Re: In_The_Pink] #270723
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Thanks guys, mine is a 79 with the newer tank, no hump I think, gonna have to get under there and take a look.


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Don't know how anyone could ever mistake this for a Mustang??????????????????

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Re: Duals on an F Body????????? [Re: Crizila] #270725
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Don't know how anyone could ever mistake this for a Mustang??????????????????




The tailpipes are Mustang-like, not the vehicle. See here:


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Welllllll, you could just dump them straight down aft of the rear tires - or would that be the Chevy look I'm just happy to have one that doesn't have that - rusted out look!


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Re: Duals on an F Body????????? [Re: Crizila] #270727
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Welllllll, you could just dump them straight down aft of the rear tires - or would that be the Chevy look




I think I know what the O.P. is trying to avoid, having tried to route dual 2.5" tailpipes on an F-body wagon myself last summer. I think moving the fuel tank over is the best solution in his case.

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I'm just happy to have one that doesn't have that - rusted out look!




Very true. I guess that makes at least four F-body wagon owners here on Moparts.

Re: Duals on an F Body????????? [Re: In_The_Pink] #270728
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I guess that makes at least four F-body wagon owners here on Moparts.




I used to have a 77 Volare wagon, does that count?

parts of it are in several members F bodies now

Re: Duals on an F Body????????? [Re: nomore65BelvJim] #270729
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Easy, dump the tank, run a cell...this is a 3 inch system with magnaflows and dual wide bands, its 7 years old but cleans up well, Im working on a 3.5 system for the R5/P7 motor to go all the way back also.

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Re: Duals on an F Body????????? [Re: quick77rt ] #270730
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Very cool quick77RT! Actually, I was going to run both pipes out the same side. Glad I didn't. It would have probably looked too much like a Fiat!!!

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Re: Duals on an F Body????????? [Re: Crizila] #270731
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if you were going to do that, I'd just do what I did on my 5th ave--run a big single-- I've got 2.5" off the headers to a flowmaster Y, and into a 3" muffler, and 3" over the axle. you can fit up to a 4" pipe along side the tank in a big single config. but finding (and fitting) enough muffler volume to keep things tolerable gets hard to do.


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Re: Duals on an F Body????????? [Re: nomore65BelvJim] #270732
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76 and early 77 F bodies had a "humpbacked" fuel tank and the 2 types are not interchangeable. The filler tube, sending unit and straps are different. If you want to use the later "wedge shaped" tank you should change the trunk pan for proper fit.
(76-early 77 left, early 77-80 right)




I know about the pre-77 tanks. What I mean is there are also 2 types of 77-89 tanks as well. It isn't a big difference, but one type has a hump that sits about 1" off the surface of the top of tank. You have to beat it flat or modify the trunk floor if you want to move tank over the 1 notch.

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Re: Duals on an F Body????????? [Re: bnichols] #270733
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the filler neck needs to be cut or lengthened you can cut the neck and splice it back together with fuel hose available at napa or any other parts store.




This mod is as simple as cutting the neck, piece of fuel hose and a couple of clamps?


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Re: Duals on an F Body????????? [Re: quick77rt ] #270734
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Easy, dump the tank, run a cell...this is a 3 inch system with magnaflows and dual wide bands, its 7 years old but cleans up well, Im working on a 3.5 system for the R5/P7 motor to go all the way back also.




Another vote for dumping the tank and putting a cell in the trunk... there is plenty of room. Mine is a "J" Body but they are pretty much the same... TBF

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Re: Duals on an F Body????????? [Re: patrick] #270735
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if you were going to do that, I'd just do what I did on my 5th ave--run a big single-- I've got 2.5" off the headers to a flowmaster Y, and into a 3" muffler, and 3" over the axle.




I've read about your exhaust on other threads. I have a similar set up on my truck. Trucks also have dual exhaust challenges. Presently I have complaints about the noise level at full song. It may be too much work for one muffler. Do you have or can you make some video clips. I'd love to hear this exhaust system you have.


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