Re: my rear axel got bent from welding
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03/28/09 06:58 PM
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It's suprising how "bent" most 8-3/4 housing are from the factory.
You think 8-3/4" housings are bad, you should check out the 8.8 housings in Mustangs.
not much worse really, this is one for a low 7 sec radial mustang
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Re: my rear axel got bent from welding
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I hate installing backbraces, especially on leaf spring rears.
Of course, I always do things the hard way. I narrow the rear fist, then I chain the housing down on each end to my rearend straightening bench. I bow the housing with a couple bottle jacks to compensate for warpage.
I had to do the same to my 8 3/4 housing. Chained it to an I beam and straightned it with a jack.
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Re: my rear axel got bent from welding
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Thanks all for the advise and suggestion , I guess I be on my way to my work soon and take out the grinder and cut halfway thru on both sides and use a wedge to open the gap up to get the ends to line up to each other, and carefully weld it. I have a new drive shaft and axles from manchini and a brand new center section too, so I don’t want to ruin them with a bent housing. Anyone use the mosier housing? It was not too expensive ether http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail...mp;autoview=skuAre they stronger enough or do they need to be back braced too? I run a stroked 440 wedge (500) with a procharger. 1000+ hp The Dana 60 would be the best I know but my economy does not allow it at the moment
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Re: my rear axel got bent from welding
[Re: Mr500_wedge]
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03/29/09 06:40 AM
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Thanks all for the advise and suggestion , I guess I be on my way to my work soon and take out the grinder and cut halfway thru on both sides and use a wedge to open the gap up to get the ends to line up to each other, and carefully weld it. I have a new drive shaft and axles from manchini and a brand new center section too, so I don’t want to ruin them with a bent housing.
Anyone use the mosier housing? It was not too expensive ether http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail...mp;autoview=sku Are they stronger enough or do they need to be back braced too? I run a stroked 440 wedge (500) with a procharger. 1000+ hp The Dana 60 would be the best I know but my economy does not allow it at the moment
at the 1000 HP range your going to have big problems if you hook it.
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Re: my rear axel got bent from welding
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03/29/09 07:51 PM
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I alway's cut the end's off then do all my welding and brackets, then the last thing you do is weld the end's back on with a jig to get the wheel bearing bores in alignment with the bearing's in the carrier,,,your bearing's and seal's will thank you.
Thats the way I do it, the bearing ends are always last going on.... by rights that tube could be all over the place as long as the ends are square to the carrier bearings and I like the tire square to the car
Well at least two people got the right answer.
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Re: my rear axel got bent from welding
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03/29/09 09:06 PM
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Thanks all for the advise and suggestion , I guess I be on my way to my work soon and take out the grinder and cut halfway thru on both sides and use a wedge to open the gap up to get the ends to line up to each other, and carefully weld it. I have a new drive shaft and axles from manchini and a brand new center section too, so I don’t want to ruin them with a bent housing.
Anyone use the mosier housing? It was not too expensive ether http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail...mp;autoview=sku Are they stronger enough or do they need to be back braced too? I run a stroked 440 wedge (500) with a procharger. 1000+ hp The Dana 60 would be the best I know but my economy does not allow it at the moment
1000 hp stock block 440??
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Re: my rear axel got bent from welding
[Re: Blown61]
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03/29/09 10:56 PM
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Before I would cut the ends off I would try a couple of things first. I just finished welding a back brace to my 8 3/4 and had planned on redoing the ends.
As you know when you weld on one side of the housing it heats up and when it cools it shrinks back shorter than it was before. I was going to heat the opposite side of my housing to "bring it back" until an old toolmaker suggested peening the weld.
I ground an old air chisel bit to a point with a 1/8 diameter flat and peened the weld on the back brace for about 10 minutes and the housing came back to straight. This stretches or expands the weld.
It worked for me and only the mentioned 10 minutes.
Ex Hemi Racer 70 Challenger Hemi 4 speed clone
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Re: my rear axel got bent from welding
[Re: Bill MeLater]
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The same guy told me the best thing to keep from weld pull is to peen the weld while it is still hot.
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Re: my rear axel got bent from welding
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Thanks all for the advise and suggestion , I guess I be on my way to my work soon and take out the grinder and cut halfway thru on both sides and use a wedge to open the gap up to get the ends to line up to each other, and carefully weld it. I have a new drive shaft and axles from manchini and a brand new center section too, so I don’t want to ruin them with a bent housing.
Anyone use the mosier housing? It was not too expensive ether http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail...mp;autoview=sku Are they stronger enough or do they need to be back braced too? I run a stroked 440 wedge (500) with a procharger. 1000+ hp The Dana 60 would be the best I know but my economy does not allow it at the moment
1000 hp stock block 440??
ARP studs, half filled with hard block and Main stud girdle. Hope that’s enough to keep it together
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Re: my rear axel got bent from welding
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03/30/09 10:28 PM
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yup hope ur right, NOBODY has ever ran a 1000hp rb with a stock block and had it live, they all explode horribly at 750hp right???? lol.... opinions are like a**holes, everybodys got one but nobdy wants to see the other guys,
Half measures availed us nothing. We stood at the turning point.
-Alcoholics Anonymous, The Big Book
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Re: my rear axel got bent from welding
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03/30/09 10:34 PM
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yup hope ur right, NOBODY has ever ran a 1000hp rb with a stock block and had it live, they all explode horribly at 750hp right???? lol.... opinions are like a**holes, everybodys got one but nobdy wants to see the other guys,
I believe he was referring to the 8 3/4 living but most likely neither the block or the rear will live at 1000hp
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Re: my rear axel got bent from welding
[Re: cudaben1968]
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03/30/09 11:01 PM
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yup hope ur right, NOBODY has ever ran a 1000hp rb with a stock block and had it live, they all explode horribly at 750hp right???? lol.... opinions are like a**holes, everybodys got one but nobdy wants to see the other guys,
Sure we do, lets see you do it.
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Re: my rear axel got bent from welding
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you wanna see my a**hole????
Half measures availed us nothing. We stood at the turning point.
-Alcoholics Anonymous, The Big Book
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Re: my rear axel got bent from welding
[Re: cudaben1968]
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you wanna see my a**hole????
Nope, talking to it right now, go pound sand.
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