Ram 3500 CTD advice needed
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05/02/19 08:37 AM
05/02/19 08:37 AM
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sixpackbee
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OK, I am looking to buy a 10-16 dually. The few friends I Have in the trucking biz say to stay way away from the trucks with DEF. Nothing buy a headache. Which leaves me up to a 12 & down. My dilemma is I like the upgrades they did on the 13 & up. Electronics package is way nicer and trans/frame/engine upgrades too. Most everyone said deleting the EGR is a must regardless. So, to those in the know what do you say about the 12-down vs the 13 & up conflict. Is the EGR thing true too? My 96 is so reliable I hate to give it up but I have had for 21 years and the newer ones are so much nicer to travel in. Thanks for your input.
1959 Bugeye Sprite 1967 Charger Black L code 1967 Coronet R/T Convert Green 440 auto bought from original owner 1968 Charger R/T Bronze 440 4 spd console AM/FM 1969 Super Bee WM21H B5 A40 D21 N96 1969 Barracuda Formula S 340 Convert pilot car 1969 Hemi Road Runner RM23J D32 Omaha orange 4.10 Dana N96 N85 1970 Super Bee WM23N FE5 V1X 3.91 axle package, N96 1970 Road Runner RM21N B3 V1X D13 1971 MG Midget 1971 Road Runner RM23H GW3, A57 1972 Road Runner RM23P FY1, D21
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Re: Ram 3500 CTD advice needed
[Re: sixpackbee]
#2651882
05/04/19 12:49 PM
05/04/19 12:49 PM
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Twostick
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OK, I am looking to buy a 10-16 dually. The few friends I Have in the trucking biz say to stay way away from the trucks with DEF. Nothing buy a headache. Which leaves me up to a 12 & down. My dilemma is I like the upgrades they did on the 13 & up. Electronics package is way nicer and trans/frame/engine upgrades too. Most everyone said deleting the EGR is a must regardless. So, to those in the know what do you say about the 12-down vs the 13 & up conflict. Is the EGR thing true too? My 96 is so reliable I hate to give it up but I have had for 21 years and the newer ones are so much nicer to travel in. Thanks for your input. Find a way to stay in love with your 96. Air ride suspension, new paint, late model seating, whatever it takes. Everything after 03 has issues. EGR, common rail injectors that hang open and hydraulic lock the engine, (boom) diesel particulate filters, $$$$, DEF, more $$$$$$ VGT turbos $$$$ it just doesn't stop. The newer stuff runs ok when it runs but when any of the above mentioned quits, the check engine light comes on or worse and a tow truck gets involved. Properly maintained, that 12 valve will easily go 500,000 miles or more. If you convert the pump to manual shut off, your electrical system could fail and you are still trucking. Kevin
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Re: Ram 3500 CTD advice needed
[Re: Twostick]
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05/10/19 10:20 AM
05/10/19 10:20 AM
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Adobedude
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I concur, keep the 12 valve.
I bought a 2001 24 valve manual 6 speed quad cab 4x2 in 2016 with 97K on it for 15,000, it tows my Race Dakota and lives in my garage, 103K on it now, absolutely love everything about it. It's show room perfect, what I really like is it's exactly like my late fathers truck, only his was a 12 valve and I didn't buy it when he passed, I've tried to since, no luck. Fast forward to a couple months ago, I bought a 2007 one owner 4x4 24 valve with 125K on it for 15,500, it's as clean as the 2001, but...It's gonna be a money pit, 68rfe, VGT turbo this and that, DPF this and that....$$$. I bought the 07 replace my 2500 98 5.9 gas RAM work truck, but I'm selling the 07, keeping the 98, I love everything about the 07 except for the future repair bills, and they are gonna happen, get on the Cummins forums. I should have done my homework.
2001 Dodge Dakota 408 All Motor 11.27 @ 117.83 mph 2017 NM Mopar Challenge Series Champion.
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Re: Ram 3500 CTD advice needed
[Re: Adobedude]
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05/10/19 02:57 PM
05/10/19 02:57 PM
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sixpackbee
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Thanks for the help. I joined the Ram Cummins forums. The general consensus is keep the 12v or buy a 14 and up. My 96 would require too much work for me right now. Just don't have any free time so I now will narrow my search and hopefully something comes up.
1959 Bugeye Sprite 1967 Charger Black L code 1967 Coronet R/T Convert Green 440 auto bought from original owner 1968 Charger R/T Bronze 440 4 spd console AM/FM 1969 Super Bee WM21H B5 A40 D21 N96 1969 Barracuda Formula S 340 Convert pilot car 1969 Hemi Road Runner RM23J D32 Omaha orange 4.10 Dana N96 N85 1970 Super Bee WM23N FE5 V1X 3.91 axle package, N96 1970 Road Runner RM21N B3 V1X D13 1971 MG Midget 1971 Road Runner RM23H GW3, A57 1972 Road Runner RM23P FY1, D21
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Re: Ram 3500 CTD advice needed
[Re: Twostick]
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05/12/19 11:17 AM
05/12/19 11:17 AM
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Posts: 554 Mesa , Az
Jambbii
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OK, I am looking to buy a 10-16 dually. The few friends I Have in the trucking biz say to stay way away from the trucks with DEF. Nothing buy a headache. Which leaves me up to a 12 & down. My dilemma is I like the upgrades they did on the 13 & up. Electronics package is way nicer and trans/frame/engine upgrades too. Most everyone said deleting the EGR is a must regardless. So, to those in the know what do you say about the 12-down vs the 13 & up conflict. Is the EGR thing true too? My 96 is so reliable I hate to give it up but I have had for 21 years and the newer ones are so much nicer to travel in. Thanks for your input. Find a way to stay in love with your 96. Air ride suspension, new paint, late model seating, whatever it takes. Everything after 03 has issues. EGR, common rail injectors that hang open and hydraulic lock the engine, (boom) diesel particulate filters, $$$$, DEF, more $$$$$$ VGT turbos $$$$ it just doesn't stop. The newer stuff runs ok when it runs but when any of the above mentioned quits, the check engine light comes on or worse and a tow truck gets involved. Properly maintained, that 12 valve will easily go 500,000 miles or more. If you convert the pump to manual shut off, your electrical system could fail and you are still trucking. Kevin I am a mechanical injection person at heart but I would beg to differ..... 03-07ish in my opinion are great because they have no emissions equipment besides a catalytic converter. Put decent fuel filter setup on it and no hanging injectors. Custom tuning is all you need and it will run circles around a 12v with locked timing. Keep in mind that even the mighty 12v has issues (Dowel Pin).
70 Challenger 1960 Town Wagon P Pump 24v cummins project 06 Mega 3500 Drw 2wd 12 Durango R/T 18 Power Wagon 67 A100
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Re: Ram 3500 CTD advice needed
[Re: Jambbii]
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05/12/19 03:30 PM
05/12/19 03:30 PM
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Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada
RUNCHARGER
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I really liked my 05, It handled nice compared to my 02. I got scared I was going to have an injector pile up on it though and sold it well before that would happen (150k). The 14 and up probably drive way better as well but they seem to need to be deleted to be trouble free.
Sheldon
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