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Re: Who's Nostalgia Super Stock Car is Fastest in the US? [Re: B G Racing] #265254
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They let the intakes in as long as they are the same configuration....so the Indy intake is legal. No sheetmetal intakes, though, it has to be produced by someone. I do agree about the no crossram wedges in 65, or the Hemi in the 63. I don't know the 63, but I do know plenty of crossram 65's running.

Brother Bob, I luv ya, pal, but I do have to disagree regarding the "appearance only" deal. I really think, and what draws me to it, is the cars are or should be close to period correct as much as you can make them. If you allow single fours (they do allow single fours, but they have to be Carters or Eddys on a wedge) and the such you must as well just call it Mod ET or Pro ET. In addition, it puts the guys with the original type setups at a disadvantage. One of the reasons that those NSS races draw the way they do (and they do draw)is that they are not like your average bracket car.

Perhaps a Modified Production class, seperate from NSS for those cars? Just a thought.

I will certainly make allowances for ignitions, stuff you can't see, and any type of safety items.

But, that is my

Brother Bob, let's get two four barrells on that 66 of Selby's, and come to MD with us!!!


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Re: Who's Nostalgia Super Stock Car is Fastest in the US? [Re: Steve1118] #265255
04/14/09 12:12 PM
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They let the intakes in as long as they are the same configuration....so the Indy intake is legal. No sheetmetal intakes, though, it has to be produced by someone. I do agree about the no crossram wedges in 65, or the Hemi in the 63. I don't know the 63, but I do know plenty of crossram 65's running.

Brother Bob, I luv ya, pal, but I do have to disagree regarding the "appearance only" deal. I really think, and what draws me to it, is the cars are or should be close to period correct as much as you can make them. If you allow single fours (they do allow single fours, but they have to be Carters or Eddys on a wedge) and the such you must as well just call it Mod ET or Pro ET. In addition, it puts the guys with the original type setups at a disadvantage. One of the reasons that those NSS races draw the way they do (and they do draw)is that they are not like your average bracket car.

Perhaps a Modified Production class, seperate from NSS for those cars? Just a thought.

I will certainly make allowances for ignitions, stuff you can't see, and any type of safety items.

But, that is my

Brother Bob, let's get two four barrells on that 66 of Selby's, and come to MD with us!!!


I don't know whats in the water up there on Waltons Mountain,but you wimpy black(teddy)bears don't want mess with us big city Grizzelys from the lowlands.I ordered the manifold and carbs yesterday for the 67 satillite and I'am going to paw smack you

Re: Who's Nostalgia Super Stock Car is Fastest in the US? [Re: B G Racing] #265256
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Can't wait.

I am going to get ahold of the Tedesco's and see if we can get an event up there, maybe using 422 Motorsports rules as they seem to be a nice mix, allowing tires up to 14x32.

What do you think?

I like the black (teddy) bear from Walton's Mountain's chances in that one.


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www.reasbeckracing.webs.com
Re: Who's Nostalgia Super Stock Car is Fastest in the US? [Re: Steve1118] #265257
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Can't wait.

I am going to get ahold of the Tedesco's and see if we can get an event up there, maybe using 422 Motorsports rules as they seem to be a nice mix, allowing tires up to 14x32.

What do you think?

I like the black (teddy) bear from Walton's Mountain's chances in that one.


You better get Ronnie and that snot nosed kid of your(Kyle) if you want to have a chance,you cute little Teddy Bear I think that since I'am the most fair and honest(balanced) I should get to make up the rules.

Re: Who's Nostalgia Super Stock Car is Fastest in the U [Re: max_maniac] #265258
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It was a 500 low deck with stage VI heads ported by modern. It had 13.5- comp. .700 lift cam(do not remember duration) 5500 converter,456 dana 002/003 springs. Car weighed 3200 with driver. Now that was the best. It would go 9.80 as an average. Jake


That's what i tried telling Chris,it is limited to a 500" or smaller





I have a 496 and with the EZ heads, 13-1 cr and a roller cam with a bone stock cross ram intake I got my 3250 lb car to a 9.99 in good air.




Russ - That was a great combo. I know you knocked off a couple tenths with the Indy intake, but I still think that 9.99 with the stock intake was more impressive. That was a great working car. Very simple but effective. Had to be one of the faster cars in the US running a stock max wedge intake.


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Re: Who's Nostalgia Super Stock Car is Fastest in the U [Re: TonyS451] #265259
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Being that I ran nss for so many years my take is when they legalized them for the old nmca cause Indy was the class sponsor. I ran a low deck combo with stage six heads for years with a stock crossram. When looking at the motor it seem way more correct looking but found that that combo was not legal for the class any longer.I guess a Indy bathtub and alum . 605cu. in. looked more correct(LOL). Looking at the 422 rules with 14/32 tires seems to open the doors for possable more car count from some braket cars!! Personally I prefere the 10.5 rule. It makes it more interesting to make work with a faster car. Jake

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Jake,
Why was the low deck setup not legal????

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Got me. In fact it is not legal in the CC events. My old motor was sold to a customer of mine and they found out about it and ask the guy to go race in a different class!!!! He has not been back. He even was mad at me thinking that I put a hemi in my car and sold him the motor knowing that the rules didn't alow the low decks. I told him to just make a fake pad at the top of the motor to look like a tall deck but he was already ticked off and does something different now. Jake


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Re: Who's Nostalgia Super Stock Car is Fastest in the U [Re: JAKE68] #265262
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well with the mention of single 4bbl carb i should b able to run one on my 64 since they did put a single 4 bbl on them

Re: Who's Nostalgia Super Stock Car is Fastest in the U [Re: JAKE68] #265263
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Got me. In fact it is not legal in the CC events. My old motor was sold to a customer of mine and they found out about it and ask the guy to go race in a different class!!!! He has not been back. He even was mad at me thinking that I put a hemi in my car and sold him the motor knowing that the rules didn't alow the low decks. I told him to just make a fake pad at the top of the motor to look like a tall deck but he was already ticked off and does something different now. Jake




That amazes me..I know Damon runs a 496 low deck in his 61', but he runs the NMCA...I would think the single four barrel setup since it was offered in 64' and 65' would be legal....Barton has been running one in AA/SA in Caro's 65' in the NHRA..

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Re: Who's Nostalgia Super Stock Car is Fastest in the US? #265264
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here's a picture from NMCA of our car

5164410-NMCA.jpg (94 downloads)
Re: Who's Nostalgia Super Stock Car is Fastest in the US? [Re: B G Racing] #265265
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They let the intakes in as long as they are the same configuration....so the Indy intake is legal. No sheetmetal intakes, though, it has to be produced by someone. I do agree about the no crossram wedges in 65, or the Hemi in the 63. I don't know the 63, but I do know plenty of crossram 65's running.

Brother Bob, I luv ya, pal, but I do have to disagree regarding the "appearance only" deal. I really think, and what draws me to it, is the cars are or should be close to period correct as much as you can make them. If you allow single fours (they do allow single fours, but they have to be Carters or Eddys on a wedge) and the such you must as well just call it Mod ET or Pro ET. In addition, it puts the guys with the original type setups at a disadvantage. One of the reasons that those NSS races draw the way they do (and they do draw)is that they are not like your average bracket car.

Perhaps a Modified Production class, seperate from NSS for those cars? Just a thought.

I will certainly make allowances for ignitions, stuff you can't see, and any type of safety items.

But, that is my

Brother Bob, let's get two four barrells on that 66 of Selby's, and come to MD with us!!!


I don't know whats in the water up there on Waltons Mountain,but you wimpy black(teddy)bears don't want mess with us big city Grizzelys from the lowlands.I ordered the manifold and carbs yesterday for the 67 satillite and I'am going to paw smack you




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You know you have to run in the 8's to run 9.00 in the heat.Here is proof at Joliet NMCA race

5165009-NMCAHistory.jpg (86 downloads)
Re: Who's Nostalgia Super Stock Car is Fastest in the US? [Re: tatrwedge] #265267
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You know you have to run in the 8's to run 9.00 in the heat.Here is proof at Joliet NMCA race



paul, im not doubting you but what intake were you using to get the 8 second pass.
this year should be interesting, are you turning up the wick or just freshening up the big wedge?
my new bullet is almost done!
maybe you'll show up at pittsburgh this year with your car.
a nice little get together and a BBQ.

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Here is a picture from INDY's catalog of our engine

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Here is a picture from INDY's catalog of our engine




looking forward to seeing your beautiful 63 plymouth.
hope to see you there, this could be very interesting.

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The Indy crossram. It's more impressive when you take off the hood and they see that bathtub with 2 Edelbrocks on top and the car goes that fast. It's a freshen up

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You know you have to run in the 8's to run 9.00 in the heat.Here is proof at Joliet NMCA race



paul, im not doubting you but what intake were you using to get the 8 second pass.
this year should be interesting, are you turning up the wick or just freshening up the big wedge?
my new bullet is almost done!
maybe you'll show up at pittsburgh this year with your car.
a nice little get together and a BBQ.


MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM,,,,,,SKIRT STEAK for lunch,,,,,,,,SAAWWWWWWSSEEEEEEEEEEGGE for breakfast.


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You know you have to run in the 8's to run 9.00 in the heat.Here is proof at Joliet NMCA race



paul, im not doubting you but what intake were you using to get the 8 second pass.
this year should be interesting, are you turning up the wick or just freshening up the big wedge?
my new bullet is almost done!
maybe you'll show up at pittsburgh this year with your car.
a nice little get together and a BBQ.


MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM,,,,,,SKIRT STEAK for lunch,,,,,,,,SAAWWWWWWSSEEEEEEEEEEGGE for breakfast.




There we go again, Hemi following the skirt steaks. Looks like I lost my photographer


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Re: Who's Nostalgia Super Stock Car is Fastest in the U [Re: JAKE68] #265273
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Got me. In fact it is not legal in the CC events. My old motor was sold to a customer of mine and they found out about it and ask the guy to go race in a different class!!!! He has not been back. He even was mad at me thinking that I put a hemi in my car and sold him the motor knowing that the rules didn't alow the low decks. I told him to just make a fake pad at the top of the motor to look like a tall deck but he was already ticked off and does something different now. Jake


Jake I would have told them it was a 343 HP 383. The indy intake even looks closer to correct in that application.


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