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Anyone try the ICH 426-3D? #2618740
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This is the dual plane 4500 manifold.
Looks interesting.
I don't see anyone talking about it....

Anyone try it yet? Impressions?

I acquired a 426-2 and a Barton/MP 4150 both for an excellent price and plan to test both of them, but for 572ci I'm also guessing it will probably be like trying to breathe through a drinking straw.


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I wouldn't think you would need a dual plane with a 572. What carb are you planning to use with the 572? Sounds like a 4150 since both of your intakes are 4150 flange?

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I was going to start off with the current stuff, 4150/1000 race demon or quick fuel 950. Just to get it going and see what I think.

I can also do a reproduction 2x4 with two 600s, but it seems out of place on this build so I figured I'd save those for later.


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I have run the 426-2 with a 1050 Race Demon and it ran pretty strong. 5.98 @ 115.7. #2950 I am hoping for an improvement with the 426-3 and Dominator carb.
Mine is 572" as well, pump gas, street driven.

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You can use a stage V intake with two edelbrock 800's on a 572 and make near 900HP with incredible street manners - just a thought - Edelbrock makes a dual 4 intake also in two versions fuel injected or carb. 572 you will need plenty of CFM

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I have been considering it....I currently use the 426-4 w/o an air cleaner and I am real tight to the hood scoop...I just don't want to kill off 60hp with it. can't find anyone who has done back to back testing on it.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

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If any of you guy's are looking for a deal, I have an as new Indy3d intake with a new custom 1250 Dominator by Thumperdart, 4 hole spacer and 14" breather base that I will sell as a package cheap due to a change in direction.

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Originally Posted By ZIPPY
I was going to start off with the current stuff, 4150/1000 race demon or quick fuel 950. Just to get it going and see what I think.

I can also do a reproduction 2x4 with two 600s, but it seems out of place on this build so I figured I'd save those for later.



How can 2 4 bbls look out of place on a 426 Hemi? Unless you are building a NASCAR clone Superbird. There are some great intake manifolds now-a-days.


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Originally Posted By Hemi Allstate
I have run the 426-2 with a 1050 Race Demon and it ran pretty strong. 5.98 @ 115.7. #2950 I am hoping for an improvement with the 426-3 and Dominator carb.
Mine is 572" as well, pump gas, street driven.

Mark


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'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
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Originally Posted By Dragula


That's what I'm talking about 😎

Video says +60 over a crossram...wow

Rick not out of place due to appearance but not right for the combination. Maybe I should try it anyway just because....


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Originally Posted By rickseeman
Originally Posted By Hemi Allstate
I have run the 426-2 with a 1050 Race Demon and it ran pretty strong. 5.98 @ 115.7. #2950 I am hoping for an improvement with the 426-3 and Dominator carb.
Mine is 572" as well, pump gas, street driven.

Mark


I vote that to be the best looking engine in a Allstate in recorded human history.


Thanks Rickseeman ! I would like to use a Stage V 2-4 intake , but I don't want to modify the cowl again. The only 2-4 intake that fits under the cowl is a Rat Roaster X Ram, and I expect trouble with that on the street, but I will try it. I am testing the 426-3 at the track this spring. It works well on the street. The 426-3D is an option too.
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Originally Posted By ZIPPY
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That's what I'm talking about 😎

Video says +60 over a crossram...wow

Rick not out of place due to appearance but not right for the combination. Maybe I should try it anyway just because....


I don't know your combination but that 2 Holley inline single plane Stage V looks like it would run good.


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The 426-4 works well, I just want the safety of an air cleaner...without loosing hp.

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'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
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Zippy...I don't now what heads you'll be running or how much cam you're gonna use, but the Barton/MP 4150 intake will be stronger than the Indy 426-2.
I'd think the 426-3D would rank below the Barton, but be somewhat similar to the 426-2.

I should have taken some pics the other day, but I will later this week...I have my hemi out and apart. I have the Barton 4500 manifold on the table next to the big Indy 426-4.


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Planning on 110-M heads and a Crane .420 roller which is 276/280 on 112. (Gross lift isn't really known yet because rockers are undecided, but right around .630).

Much as I hate to admit it, overall specs are going to end up not too far off from Indy's 572 street crate engine. They are claiming a big improvement when the dual plane/4500 is used on that engine. But I have yet to see one in the wild or talk to anyone who has tried it.









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If your heads are ported, I think you're gonna be leaving a lot of power on the table w/ anything less than that Barton manifold.

I guess it's how you want it to act. I want max power and can put up w/ what some would probably consider too "racy" of an engine for the street. That Indy 426-3D should be a great street intake. If my dad didn't already have a factory Vanke modded dual 4 intake, I'd tell him to get that 3D manifold for his 540" street hemi.


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I have a 426-2 and a 426-3 manifold but never did any dyno comparisons between them. I opted to go with my dual Indy Dominator tunnel ram instead just because Hemi's are supposed to have dual carbs. Looking back on it now I wish I would have dyno'd it with all 3 manifolds. Undoubtedly, the tunnel ram is making more power though.


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