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Re: Drive Shaft Restoration [Re: sixbbl69] #256865
03/17/09 06:55 PM
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The one good original driveshaft I had was kind of a rust color but it was a coating, not actual rust. It would not come off when you wiped it and was even hard to wire wheel off. I just cleaned it up and put it in the car. Same color as the drum backing plates. Since then, I do not believe the driveshafts are bare but I always assumed they were bare because they looked rusty from the get go. Over the counter driveshaft replacements may have been bare or black?

Re: Drive Shaft Restoration [Re: anlauto] #256866
03/17/09 06:56 PM
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Nice work Alan; I will be trying something similar but with (probably) inferior results!


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Re: Drive Shaft Restoration [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #256867
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The one good original driveshaft I had was kind of a rust color but it was a coating, not actual rust. It would not come off when you wiped it and was even hard to wire wheel off.




Hard to say what that was but it may have been a temporary metal protectant like cosmoline. Production line drive shafts were not painted.

Re: Drive Shaft Restoration [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #256868
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drive shafts on my new 69 road runner and new 70 charger were bare metal and surface rust.no coating of any kind.

Re: Drive Shaft Restoration [Re: sixbbl69] #256869
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I have seen one done by Pete and it looked like a brand new shaft. I painted mine with the stainless steel and a cast color on the ends and that looks OK but its not like a new looking shaft. It would be nice if someone would re-pop these corectly.

Re: Drive Shaft Restoration [Re: THESHAKERPROJECT] #256870
03/17/09 07:41 PM
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I know of a company that is seriously considering making all new driveshafts for mopars. And has done a couple prototypes .

tubes are the easy part. Issue is the cast end caps

Re: Drive Shaft Restoration [Re: gtx6970] #256871
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I don't have to tell you guys that a decent
42.6 shaft is hard to come by for a big block/Hemi 4 spd Cuda.
I have 2 shafts and of course 1 is better than the other.
I'm not building a numbers car but it will
be very nice car when finished. I appreciate
the help and knowledge given in this post.
What is Pete, charging for his restorations ?
Bill, Dead Nuts On needs to get busy and get them done.

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Re: Drive Shaft Restoration [Re: MLR426] #256872
03/17/09 09:19 PM
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I've given him(Dead Nuts) all the lengths needed and last I talked to him he would/will be only able to do the large diameter shafts because of the availablity/tooling.

Re: Drive Shaft Restoration [Re: 44D6PAKCUDA] #256873
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PVC pipe with Evap-O-Rust is proven ez method see pic. Driveshaft is bouyant, will float, you will need to weight down end to submerge in pipe. Nice natural finish results, clear coat and u r done. Any surface rust that may appear after a few months, so much the better for realistic look.

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Re: Drive Shaft Restoration [Re: MLR426] #256874
03/18/09 02:05 PM
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I blasted, filled and sanded mine... then used "chrome" paint. Yes, it was too shiney and was not very durable. The slightest touch turned the color and left a mark. However, after I wiped it down with a dry paper towel it looked quite good and didn't seem to be affected by my touch.


The picture is BEFORE I wiped it down with the paper towel. Maybe not the best solution but an easy alternative.


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Re: Drive Shaft Restoration [Re: 426runner] #256875
03/18/09 05:13 PM
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If the bare metal is worked correctly, there will be no small inclusions for the moisture to collect and start rusting. I have worked the bare metal to a finish very similar to how it was when new. If you eliminate pits that are invisible to the eye, there is no place for moisture to collect and start oxidizing. (It can still rust but the process is slowed down considerably.) Once all the imperfections are removed and the metal is polished to a new finish, it will almost remain rust free even without oil. Keep in mind that this only takes into consideration a drive shaft that is not exposed directly to water, constant handling or high humidity environments. If you keep a light film of oil on the metal it will stay looking new for a long time. The drive shaft pictured below was finished two years ago and looks just like the day it was completed. I put a new film of oil on it maybe once a year to keep it looking new.


Re: Drive Shaft Restoration [Re: ECS] #256876
03/18/09 06:24 PM
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Those bare metal driveshafts looks fantastic guys

Last year I put 700 miles on the BARRELCUDA driving the wheels off of it, yesterday I took it for a blast as well on the "salt dusted" roads of Ontario, so unfortunately the bare metal just won't hold up for me. I feel the next best solutuion is to paint it to look like bare metal.

I wish I could live like you guys do!


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Re: Drive Shaft Restoration [Re: anlauto] #256877
03/18/09 06:36 PM
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FIRST OFF:
Driveshafts are bare steel when they leave the factory.

Any attemp to paint a driveshaft any colour would be considered incorrect.

HOWEVER:
*I live in the rust belt, 99.9% of the cars I've restored in the last 25 years have had very rusty driveshafts and need work to look smooth and new again.

*100% of the cars I've restored get driven and bare steel would be nothing less then a rusty mess in a very short time.

THEREFORE:
I've choosen to paint the driveshafts on the cars I've restored.
After a good blasting, rust pitts filled, sanded and primed, I paint them with Seymore's Stainless Steel Paint. I paint the ends in a Cast colour then used several different types of tinted clear coat to give to realizim...
After this they can be sent out for a balance check if necessary.

AGAIN:
This IS NOT correct...

Pic. 1




Very nice Alan, i think this will be my method of choice.

Rick.

Re: Drive Shaft Restoration [Re: MrNormsTA] #256878
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i cleaned the light surface rust off my shaft in 1991 with 3m scratchy pad. haven't touched it in 18 yrs other then using mopar MP50 on it once a year.i put a yellow paint pen line directly above number as to draw attenion to it because most people didn't know the number was even stamped on shaft.the paint line looks factory even though its not but nobody knows the difference.

Re: Drive Shaft Restoration [Re: sixbbl69] #256879
03/19/09 08:34 AM
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i cleaned the light surface rust off my shaft in 1991 with 3m scratchy pad. haven't touched it in 18 yrs other then using mopar MP50 on it once a year.i put a yellow paint pen line directly above number as to draw attenion to it because most people didn't know the number was even stamped on shaft.the paint line looks factory even though its not but nobody knows the difference.




what do you do flip the car on it's SIDE at shows , are you one of THOSE guys with MIRRORS under the car ?


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i cleaned the light surface rust off my shaft in 1991 with 3m scratchy pad. haven't touched it in 18 yrs other then using mopar MP50 on it once a year.i put a yellow paint pen line directly above number as to draw attenion to it because most people didn't know the number was even stamped on shaft.the paint line looks factory even though its not but nobody knows the difference.




what do you do flip the car on it's SIDE at shows , are you one of THOSE guys with MIRRORS under the car ?




neither, when i get to a show like carlisle or the mopar nationals i just leave it in enclosed trailer with both side and rear ramp doors open and a couple blankets for people to lay on so they can take pictures. this way its easier to see and my tires don't get any grass stains on them.

Re: Drive Shaft Restoration [Re: JohnRR] #256881
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i cleaned the light surface rust off my shaft in 1991 with 3m scratchy pad. haven't touched it in 18 yrs other then using mopar MP50 on it once a year.i put a yellow paint pen line directly above number as to draw attenion to it because most people didn't know the number was even stamped on shaft.the paint line looks factory even though its not but nobody knows the difference.




what do you do flip the car on it's SIDE at shows , are you one of THOSE guys with MIRRORS under the car ?






Not that I am offended since I do use mirrors to show off the underside of the car, but if you put all that hard work into a car, wouldn't you want someone to look at the undercarriage as well as everything else you have restored on a car?

Re: Drive Shaft Restoration [Re: gtx6970] #256882
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I know of a company that is seriously considering making all new driveshafts for mopars. And has done a couple prototypes .

tubes are the easy part. Issue is the cast end caps




yes they are very close to being available.

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i cleaned the light surface rust off my shaft in 1991 with 3m scratchy pad. haven't touched it in 18 yrs other then using mopar MP50 on it once a year.i put a yellow paint pen line directly above number as to draw attention to it because most people didn't know the number was even stamped on shaft.the paint line looks factory even though its not but nobody knows the difference.




what do you do flip the car on it's SIDE at shows , are you one of THOSE guys with MIRRORS under the car ?






Not that I am offended since I do use mirrors to show off the underside of the car, but if you put all that hard work into a car, wouldn't you want someone to look at the undercarriage as well as everything else you have restored on a car?


if judges or anyone else wants to see the bottom of my car they can lay on the ground to look.since i want to enjoy my car again i replaced the redlines and steel wheels with some nice aftermarket rubber and drive it. after 3 years the original bare driveshaft is still rust free.MP50 once a year keeps the bare metal, bare.

Re: Drive Shaft Restoration [Re: sixbbl69] #256884
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Pete-Are you talking about Jack at Dead Nuts? If so,he has pretty much pulled the plug on the Mopar driveshafts to work on his Mustang stuff as of last week.

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