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69 charger disk brake questions #2567719
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Got Dads 69 charger back, well he put some conversion kit on the front from a newer cordoba, or something cause the calipers are not where near correct, and the brake hoses make a nasty 180 degree bend and hit the front shocks.

does anyone know from a casting number if I have the correct spindles to put the correct 69 front brakes on it?

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is 69-70 C body stuff the same?

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Post some pictures of the spindles, calipers, that you have.
Factory 66-69 B body disc brakes are BENDIX 4 piston calipers.
NO, C body brakes are NOT the same.
69, 70, C body would be Kelsey Hayes single piston disc brakes.
Totally different manufactures and designs.

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Re: 69 charger disk brake questions [Re: Moparnut426] #2567802
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Post a picture if you can. The late model brakes can be made to work but you'll need the correct caliper and hose combination. Doctor Diff can set you up with what you need if you don't want to do the leg work yourself.

Typically the best setup is to have the calipers rear hung then use late model FMJ calipers which were designed to be rear hung and then use a custom hose that has the correct ends and the correct length.

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Andy F, are you making the ported water neck extension? Sorry to pirate the post, but I can’t get a response from you or your dealers.

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Re: 69 charger disk brake questions [Re: Moparnut426] #2567905
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69 Imp also used the 4 piston calipers.Ihave a set from the 69 I scraped.Rocky


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Originally Posted By therocks
69 Imp also used the 4 piston calipers.Ihave a set from the 69 I scraped.Rocky


Yes, that's true.
The Imperial carried over the 4 piston caliper brakes to the 1969 model year.
But The Imperial brakes are BUDD disc brakes.
Still totally different from the B body BENDIX brakes.

Don't think the Imperial line of cars, was ever designated as a "C" body, anyway.


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Calipers should be in the front of the spindle..if mounted in the rear, the hose will be bent..

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Originally Posted By AARCONV
Calipers should be in the front of the spindle..if mounted in the rear, the hose will be bent..


Calipers need to be rear hung on the OP car to clear the anti-sway bar. The FMJ calipers are designed to be rear hung so they'll work just fine.

I covered all of this in my B body book.

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We would like to put the correct 4 piston stuff on the car, if anyone has the kit, spindles, and brackets, i would be interested. ill buy new calipers.

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I cant load my pictures off my phone cause they are in the wrong format. I will retake them and load them.

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The correct Bendix stuff is super hard to find. Ram Man is making a one piece rotor to replace the original two piece and Hoffman has reproduced a bracket or two. I'm not aware of any source for the calipers though. Wheel bearings wouldn't be an issue but I'm not sure about the inner seal. I think Inline Tube makes the cross over brake line and I'm sure you can buy the correct hoses. Not sure about the pads.

If you're serious about using the original Bendex setup then you should start a thread in the Restoration area. Oh, and check the balance in your savings account too!

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Getting parts for the Bendix disc brake systems isn't that difficult anymore in this day and age.
Just gotta know where to look to purchase the parts.
Piston rebuild kits, individual pistons, are available from ebay, and Amazon vendors.
Rock auto too.
As far as complete calipers, again check Rock Auto, and any parts store that carries the Centric line of auto parts.
You can rebuild your own existing calipers, or send them out to the professional vendors that advertise, doing that type of work.
As far as rotors, there a couple of vendors that sell a reproduction one piece rotor, and another sells a original two piece rotor that you reuse your existing hub that you remove from the old and reinstall onto the new.
Repop caliper hard lines are available from the companies that sell fuel, and brake lines.
Repop caliper hose brackets are available.
Calipers bolt directly to the spindle, so no bracketry is neeeded for that.
If the OP needs original 66-69 Bendix disc brake spindles they come up for sale from time to time on the internet web sites, or placing your own wanted ad.
Buy yes, some of this stuff is expensive, $$$$$$$$$ dollar wise, depending on which way that you want to go, but all is available.




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Re: 69 charger disk brake questions [Re: Moparnut426] #2568487
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NAPA on line sells a rebuilt caliper. I think after talking with a few companies today im going to do a A body swap kit...

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Originally Posted By Moparnut426
NAPA on line sells a rebuilt caliper. I think after talking with a few companies today im going to do a A body swap kit...



Well, what type of brakes are on the car right now?
You ever want to know, figure that out, anymore?


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So who makes a repopped single piece rotor for 66-69 Bendix? I have only see the rotor that requires and original hub to mate too it.

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Originally Posted By dragon slayer
So who makes a repopped single piece rotor for 66-69 Bendix? I have only see the rotor that requires and original hub to mate too it.

There is this wonderful thing on the internet, called GOOGLE.
Do your own search, and homework.
Ever think of ebay, too?


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Originally Posted By hemi71x
Originally Posted By Moparnut426
NAPA on line sells a rebuilt caliper. I think after talking with a few companies today im going to do a A body swap kit...



Well, what type of brakes are on the car right now?
You ever want to know, figure that out, anymore?


Its harvest time so I have been in the field. I snapped a couple JPEG potos last night quick when I finished up the corn.

Hope these are good enough.

69 charger1.jpg69 charger 2.jpg
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sorry guys Im not the greatest with pics hope these help

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Looks like you already have the late model brakes on there so no point in doing an A body swap. You just need to change the calipers so the hose comes out the bottom instead of the top. Whoever did that swap used the wrong calipers for that application. You need the late model FMJ calipers and then new hoses. I think I already told you this in a previous post.

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