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Re: It's going to be alot more expensive to build an engine soon [Re: mopar dave] #2565911
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Business got a 14% tax cut we we got 1%. I cant feel sorry for business right now and just expect the prices reduced back to original once the tariffs are off.
I do understand their will be a second stage to tax cuts for middle class coming soon. Lets hope

Re: It's going to be alot more expensive to build an engine soon [Re: 440sourcedotcom] #2565916
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As a small business owner, i can tell you the tax cuts are a huge positive.
The tariffs being talked about here represent less than 1% of our total trade with China.
We are talking a 20 trillion dollar economy and a few hundred million in tariffs. The Chinese economy is less than half of ours.
And again, they need us. We buy WAY more from them than everybody else. At the end of the day they need us way more than we need them
The reason all the plants have been closed across American for years with weeds growing in parking lots is because our wealth was sold/ given to the Chinese the last 30-40 years.
Putting an end to it is much needed and long overdue. Ultimately it will be way more than worth it.


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Re: It's going to be alot more expensive to build an engine soon [Re: mopar dave] #2565925
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Originally Posted By mopar dave
Business got a 14% tax cut we we got 1%. I cant feel sorry for business right now and just expect the prices reduced back to original once the tariffs are off.
I do understand their will be a second stage to tax cuts for middle class coming soon. Lets hope


If your married and filing jointly, if you made under 315, 000 dollars your tax rate went down between 3-4%.
Its easy to look up the old and new tax brackets to verify this.

Gotta remember too, pretty much half the people in the country dont pay a dime in taxes

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69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: It's going to be alot more expensive to build an engine soon [Re: 440sourcedotcom] #2565926
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I figured this was going to happen and already bought all the engine parts and repop body parts I needed for my projects. Although even if I waited, 10% wouldn't make or break any of the builds... what I need is more storage cause even my house is getting filled laugh2


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Re: It's going to be alot more expensive to build an engine soon [Re: 440sourcedotcom] #2565927
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They get prices up and it does not matter if next year they fall through the floor on cost side--prices will remain up --the gas price hike that sent everything skyward is perfect example--gas dropped but nothing else did

Re: It's going to be alot more expensive to build an engine soon [Re: B3422W5] #2565948
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I am married and file jointly so my tax cut may be higher than i thought. I make about $1000 more per year under president Trump than i did under Obama. I drive a truck for Roger Penske, but my pay has been reduced and increased since 2000. I now make a $1.25 more than i did in 2003 and have been way passed by, by inflation and it just bugs me to see some business take advantage of any little thing to increase prices while never reduced when things return to normal. I think alot of us out here expected to reap some benifits of the business tax cuts by business passing off better deals to the customer. I dont know, is it greed or just business?
You as a small business owner understand all this better than me.

Re: It's going to be alot more expensive to build an engine soon [Re: BradH] #2565967
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Tick tock... tick tock... lock

I'm not a moderator, but I can see that either this thread is going to be locked, or some people are going to start getting their posts blown away and/or posting privileges suspended.

Re: It's going to be alot more expensive to build an engine soon [Re: BradH] #2565975
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I understand. I'm off my stump now.

Re: It's going to be alot more expensive to build an engine soon [Re: jughed] #2565977
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Originally Posted By jughed
great sales pitch...yes, folks stock up on those fine Eagle cranks before the coming price jump. Don't forget to buy a spare too.

Buy them now because Chinese 'quality' may not get any better.



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Can you provide any history as to this crank failure?

Oh, you'll probably need to post it on another thread since this one is getting so jacked up that I hear the toilet handle being wiggled in the background.

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Re: It's going to be alot more expensive to build an engine soon [Re: 440sourcedotcom] #2565978
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It just leaves the door open for a bigger and better deal, if 440 source sees the need to raise its prices 25% and if another can fill the void with equal parts and better prices thats how business works. They will feel it both ways.

I do not see some of the bigger sellers of certain internals I use a penny higher in the last couple years, time will tell. Maybe they can absorb it better for the good of there company.

I think some companies feel they are doing US the favor but WE are putting food on there table and paying there light bill.

Re: It's going to be alot more expensive to build an engine soon [Re: 440sourcedotcom] #2565981
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I can't afford one now so...... boogie

Re: It's going to be alot more expensive to build an engine soon [Re: BradH] #2565984
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Whats the story on the Molnar cranks? Are they chinese aswell?

Re: It's going to be alot more expensive to build an engine soon [Re: BradH] #2565985
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I have never seen one break in the front. Eagle cranks always break in the rear from what i have seen.

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Re: It's going to be alot more expensive to build an engine soon [Re: mopar dave] #2565987
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Originally Posted By mopar dave
I am married and file jointly so my tax cut may be higher than i thought. I make about $1000 more per year under president Trump than i did under Obama. I drive a truck for Roger Penske, but my pay has been reduced and increased since 2000. I now make a $1.25 more than i did in 2003 and have been way passed by, by inflation and it just bugs me to see some business take advantage of any little thing to increase prices while never reduced when things return to normal. I think alot of us out here expected to reap some benifits of the business tax cuts by business passing off better deals to the customer. I dont know, is it greed or just business?
You as a small business owner understand all this better than me.


Your in a good position to be in. Truck drivers are in very short supply and sooner rather than later are going to be able to leverage more money due to competition to hire them.
Have read several articles on trucking shortages here just in the last couple of weeks

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418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: It's going to be alot more expensive to build an engine soon [Re: 440sourcedotcom] #2565998
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Economics 101, the customer will always cover the costs.
If you've been paying attention, prices have increased on a lot of products recently.


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So maybe the time of grinding stock heads and polishing rods isn't over, finding horsepower in stock parts is an art buying parts is an absession.


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Re: It's going to be alot more expensive to build an engine soon [Re: Roughbird72] #2566001
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Originally Posted By Roughbird72
Economics 101, the customer will always cover the costs.
If you've been paying attention, prices have increased on a lot of products recently.



A lot of products/ services have went way down as well

Televisions
Cameras
Cell phone plans
Airline tickets
Computers
Toys
Kids clothing
Appliances
Apples..... no kidding
Solar panels
Books
CD’s

Just to name a few.......

And many cars have went down in real cost compared to inflation as well. Camry, Corrola and Honda Odyessey to name a few


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418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

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Originally Posted By B3422W5
Originally Posted By Roughbird72
Economics 101, the customer will always cover the costs.
If you've been paying attention, prices have increased on a lot of products recently.



A lot of products/ services have went way down as well

Televisions
Cameras
Cell phone plans
Airline tickets
Computers
Toys
Kids clothing
Appliances
Apples..... no kidding
Solar panels
Books
CD’s

Just to name a few.......

And many cars have went down in real cost compared to inflation as well. Camry, Corrola and Honda Odyessey to name a few




This is, in fact how the economy SHOULD operate. Over time, as costs go down, manufacturing techniques are developed to produce products cheaper a quicker come along, prices should go down. As you pointed out above, some have. And in fact, most likely should have come down more.


They don't because of the hidden tax of inflation. Prices don't really go up. What is happening, the value of the money you have is going down.


Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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They are having major trouble getting CDL truck drivers in the states that legalized marijuana due to the federal drug testing. I have a friend that's an open road driver and he says several companies are already using self driven trucks on their own property.

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I understand UPS has a whole fleet of self driving semi trucks. Good driving truck drivers that can pass a drug screen are getting hard to find.

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