Has anyone seen a documented original `70 cuda 383 born with a factory shaker hood ?
I have had several "Mopar experts" that tell me "none of the 383 cuda's were allowed the shaker option" stating that in 1970 the shakers available to the Plymouth dealers were reserved for only the Hemicuda & 440-6 cudas. I have personally seen one 70 cuda 340 #'s matching documented shaker hood car. So I was wondering if any 383 cuda guys checked off the order form for the N96 option and their 383cuda was built with a shaker ?
thanks Doug. ( dougandcindy@sympatico.ca )

Yes.

That would be very rare - a factory screw-up. You were NOT supposed to be able to order shakers on Cudas & Challengers with the 340 & 383 until 71. I've never seen a 70 with a shaker unless it was a 440-6 or Hemi.

Read the bottom of this page from 1970.

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/whatsNew/new5.jpg

Barry, footnote 1 says available on R/T's with 440-6 & HEMI engines only.

Am I missing something? Plus, the poster is talking about Cudas, not Challengers.

Oops, I got my footnotes mixed up, 2 is for the N94 hood.

Here is the only known '70 N96 vert, it's a 340 auto

There used to be a legit '70 340 'Cuda N96 car around these parts (yellow on black) - have since lost track of it.

The '71 340/383 shakers on 'Cuda are certainly more common

The car from CT
Challenger 383 vert with shaker
I have a pic somewhere

Don't forget there is one 72 hemi 'Cuda as well.

This along with the complete setup and hood came off a real N96 70 383 Cuda in a yard in upstate NY in 1973.
I've heard rumors of the 72 Tom speaks of.. Alaskan car?? and there was even a serial number provided in a club newsleter.
Could be next door to Barry in a garage and he doesn't know.

I have seen and know of a 70 340 cuda with a factory shaker. It's an auto,brown exterior with tan interior. Was for sale in 1997 for 6,000, but I didn't have the $$$. Currently not for sale but I keep in touch with the current owner and am hopeful I will have a shot at it as I've known him for 20yrs.

I have told the story before about the 72 hemi 'cuda. I examined myself, it was the real deal, very very low vin, found within 200 miles of Detroit just like the RTS caravan cars.

If you want to be stupid and make fun of it go ahead, be stupid. Be happy I told you about it.
Car lives in canada now EH!!!!

That blue 340 ragtop, was it owned by a guy who owned an art store in Birmingham, MI?

That reminds me of this thread, if you have a few hours of your life to waste it's worth a few laughs.

Factory 72 Hemi Cuda

I don't doubt oddball Chrysler cars were built, plenty of other examples have surfaced that shouldn't have been but do in fact exist, and if such an animal as a 72 Hemi Cuda exists it would be neat to see. But with all of the recent corruption with fake VIN tags, Broadcast Sheets and such, until some real SOLID evidence surfaces I'm not buying it as fact.

With all of the Muscle car craze we've all been through in the last 5 years, you'd think if one does exist it would have surfaced by now and photos, documents, etc. would have been seen or published by more than just a select few eye witnesses who claim one exists.

Speculate all you want, stop beating around the bush & just call me a liar.

I know what I saw, I know the story too well as I spent many days over many years visiting my mopar friends in western Michigan ...I saw lot's of very interesting mopars and parts during my visits, beyond your wildest dreams. So the 71 Hemi challenger pilot car must not exist either...
I would post pics, but it's not worth it.

The current owner of the 72 Cuda is keeping it a secret due to the controversial nature of the car.
Would you come on here with that car and put up with the ???? I doubt it.

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Speculate all you want, stop beating around the bush & just call me a liar.

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I did say what I meant and nothing more, I never doubted that you saw it, I doubted if it was real (as opposed to a fake) did'nt you see the 1970 383 Barracuda convertible pilot car up in Canada that somehow managed to end up getting a "Cuda VIN tag? Or how about the white 71 Hemi Cuda convertible that showed up from France out of thin air (also wearing a new VIN tag)?

That's why I doubt anything oddball unless there is more evidence to back it up.

If you can't post supportive evidence, oh well. If that frustrates you into getting PO'd at me or others who doubt the car is real, so be it, that's your problem, don't blame me or put words in my mouth. If I think someone is a liar trust me, I'll type it that way.

BTW, if your friend who has it also has supportive documents proving it's authentic, why would he fear bringing it into the public eye for scrutiny? Makes you wonder doesn't it?

I'm with Scott on this one....
There's no name calling going on...

If the car exist then tell the world and show the proof Simple as that...


I believe there's oddball stuff out there, a friend of a friend mine has a legit 1972 V code 440+6 Challenger that is in storage. He won't drive it anymore because people will think it's fake. I know it's real because he told me so.

See what I mean, from now on mums the word, go ahead

Wait, Tom... please... nooooooo

We're sorry if it sounded like someone doubted you, but really what did you expect? What reaction were you looking for when you said that you saw this car?

Darren

A '72 V-Code Challenger??? Did you mean Charger, or Challenger?

THAT would be a new one too! I've never heard of an authentic V-Code '72 anything but a Charger or a Roadrunner. I LOOKED at & photographed the yellow '72 Charger Rallye last fall personally. That car is authentic right down to the build sheet.

TOM,well it must be and age thing. I remember the talk in the old days about this 1972 Hemi Cuda when cars were just something to drive and race the crap out of. Many people from the Two Hemi Owner Clubs had heard about this car,me included. Most did not even care if it was real,it was a 1972 and most people thought that Performance died with Chrysler at the end of 1971.I can see if this car came from the factory with a Hemi in 1972 that it likely would have its motor pulled and put in an older car or the motor was blown up and the body pushed in the woods you talk about. You have to remember only about 1 out of 10k new anything about H,J,R, on a serial numbers back in the 70s.No one looked at a 1972 Cuda back then there were all kinds of 66-71 HiPo Mopars to choose from.

I had heard that Ron Addair had tried to purchase this 1972 Hemi Cuda back in mid 80s, but we will never know what Ron new about this car since he is now not with us.

There were V code cars built in 1972,why not and R code.Were there Pre Year builds at Hamtramck for the 1972 Build in June or July of 1971. We would need someone that was involved in the Pilot Build for the 1972 Hamtramck build to tell us what really went down the line.

I don't dougt Tom when he says he saw the '72 VIN with the "R". I just don't know why anyone would take that as proof of a '72 Hemi Cuda. The engine was gone; were there any other signs of a Hemi car? Big block 727 with a matching partial VIN for example? Other Hemi only parts? A VIN typo or a fake tag are more likely IMO.


Dave

Diego, if this car ends up to be a real car,Chrysler would not of tried to certify this car, it would of been just one of those funny builds. I dont really care myself if the car turns out to be real or not,I just stated what was going on back in the late Seventies,and Eighties in the Mopar Hobby and Clubs.

But then,I could also say why did Chrysler cast so many Hemi Blocks after the run of Hemi Blocks in January of 1970 right up to atleast 1974.Must of had a lot of Hemi Motors blowing up in Super Stock.

Also why did Chrysler have Fram start the build on all the Shaker Parts for the 1972 E Bodies.

Like I said before, you and I have seen a lot of stuff that should never of even been built on an assembly line let alone made it out the door of any Chrysler Plant or Proving Grounds.

hey , how did my "nice" simple post question about any document 383cuda's being born with a shaker hood, get hijacked to a argument if 72 Hemi pilot cars were built ?
Please let me know if there is any "documented" N96 equipped 383cuda's out for public injoyment as I suspect may be possible .
thanks Doug.