Dumb question I know, but is there any chance of an average guy like me getting one of these for a build this winter?

Dumb question I know, but is there any chance of an average guy like me getting one of these for a build this winter?

Yes, you could get one if you will pull out your credit card and hit the button.

If you want 4.500" bore someplace else might be cheaper.

Common casting, all Siamese, unfortunately there haven't been any water blocks since the prior generation piece marketed as 'megablock'.

I thought Bill Mitchell had been making aluminum blocks for years?

Cab, there was no such thing as a Mopar "World" block in the early 2000s.
it didn't exist yet.

If you meant the megablock as I am assuming you might have, then I would have to agree with your findings...the bore would not be a determining factor, small bore was available both ways.

Yes, you could get one if you will pull out your credit card and hit the button.

Did you speak to someone at Jegs or get an email notification?

Ok, thanks Darren. I saw this post and put an order in too. I’m probably one of the eight. I didn’t get a notification of backorder though. Wasn’t getting my hopes up anyways since they haven’t been available for so long.

He was, but he stopped making them a few years ago. He just started talking about producing them again this year with some improvements. Looks like he shipped some recently and is tweaking it again before shipping more, later this year.

Is there a chance that any of these are going to machined to be wedge blocks? Does anyone know what the current part number is for the 4.310 and 4.500 wedge 440 blocks?

Paid $2600 in 2000 for a 4.310 mega block.I'm up to 4.385 these days!

Good luck,many advertise the blocks but don't have them.I have talked to many suppliers that tell me they can get me blocks but when I place an order for 6 or more things get quiet.The few that I have been able to secure were only able to be bored .030 and were at minimum at that.They also needed a lot of corrected machine work.Be wary of what you find.I know guys who have been sitting on questionable blocks waiting for the opportunity to cash in.For myself I'll build aluminium before iron.

My scheduled ship date from Jeg's was yesterday so I emailed them. This morning they came back and said 11/5.

With a little help and detective work, I've figured out the machining facility. They are Michigan based.

We haven't quite figured out the foundry yet, however if this mark (attached) is present then these would be the old castings made in Warsaw Indiana which were sitting after Royal Oak boring quit, which my former colleague Dale had mentioned to several racers.

We can't go by dates on the block, because those just indicate when they were machoned. MP never required a separate casting date.

Lots of questions. Would this foundry produce castings again? Are the core boxes/remaining foundry tools still there? Did some genius bean counter scrap the tooling?

I might give the machine shop a call Monday to see if they would be willing to discuss what they have.

Btw, anyone remember the final version of the prior generation water block, how...at the very end, most of them were really smooth, nice looking castings...they had a rough start but, finally everything was nice, and then of course the plug was pulled....well, the foundry that cast those was bought up by the company that cast the "world" (technically Chrysler) block. Wonder if those tools to make the water block still exist also. All our eggs are kinda in one basket.

Somebody at MP (or is it "dodge" these says since nobody else does motorsports) ....whoever it is should negotiate with DF and get them kicked off again, since there's a machine shop all set to go. And then, after that is fixed do whatever needed, repair the tools and pay MC whatever they need, and reboot the water block too. It appears they have in-house machining, if capacity is an issue. I gotta wonder if anyone is looking at this stuff.

Thanks. The volume is really low on our stuff compared to the other brands, it's harder to justify but not impossible to justify. Especially when crate engines can be sold.

It's a weird deal as I haven't worked there since 2013, but luckily am on good terms with enough folks to communicate a bit.

How is big block Chrysler volume lower than FE ford stuff? Or Pontiac?

It can't all be "volume" sold because it doesn't make sense. I mean how many pontiacs are out there? My bet is the Chrysler stuff is 10:1 over Pontiac at a bare minimum.

Other internal brands. Mopar OEM replacement parts, Mopar Accessories, Mopar Reman, and so forth. These are not all the same thing.

Pull out a 2005 MP catalog and look for late model cold air intakes.
P4510832 is one that I remember from cars built at that time. Then, try to find one for a 2018 model, and you'll find the part numbers are all 770-series. No longer a Performance part. Well gee whiz, what happened there?

Which product lines make the most profit for the least amount of manpower? Consider one commodity alone, sheetmetal, for any OEM. What are the profit margins of sheetmetal vs. an engine block out of production since 1972. If a manager's worth/future employment is based on profit alone, which will he or she dedicate more resources towards?

Lastly, in a thread about $3000+ hemi blocks, I'm not sure why big block Chrysler as a whole would be brought up. 99% of them are oem Wedge blocks, and not every customer wants to step up.

Other internal brands. Mopar OEM replacement parts, Mopar Accessories, Mopar Reman, and so forth. These are not all the same thing.

Pull out a 2005 MP catalog and look for late model cold air intakes.
P4510832 is one that I remember from cars built at that time. Then, try to find one for a 2018 model, and you'll find the part numbers are all 770-series. No longer a Performance part. Well gee whiz, what happened there?

Which product lines make the most profit for the least amount of manpower? Consider one commodity alone, sheetmetal, for any OEM. What are the profit margins of sheetmetal vs. an engine block out of production since 1972. If a manager's worth/future employment is based on profit alone, which will he or she dedicate more resources towards?

Lastly, in a thread about $3000+ hemi blocks, I'm not sure why big block Chrysler as a whole would be brought up. 99% of them are oem Wedge blocks, and not every customer wants to step up.

I see all the comments about how the Mopar crowd are all too cheap to buy a $3000 iron big block, yet all I remember is even when they were supposedly available, the customers of mine always had to hunt and wait to get one.

If the Mopar crowd was so cheap, the blocks would be sitting on the distributors shelves collecting dust........ yet every one that was ever made got sold no problem.

Mega blocks - gone
World blocks - gone
Koleno blocks - gone

Reading this post is making my head spin. Is there any site or article that describes the various hemi blocks? I know the block in my car has a "-M" designation but don't know anything else about it.

Tex, I didn’t mention “the block” because I believe there are a number of them that are in machining limbo.
If they ever get done and offered to the public, I’m sure they will sell quickly....... unless priced into oblivion.

If the first batch gets finished and sold, and they don’t ever cast another batch........ then those will be added to the “gone” list.

I love the BBM platform....... but it sure has gotten hard trying to build something that will make more power than a stock block will take and still be reliable.

This month Muscle Motors quoted me just under US$5000.00 machined for assembly . But 8-12 weeks maybe . A real shame as no matter what some TAVO 's? , TACO's ? might say there is demand . Even the class racers must be desperate for a usable replacement block .

Tex

PS : local slang TAVO , tight ar$ed valiant owner . Guess could be tight ar$ed chrysler owner

If they sell the blocks for 5000.00 I do not think they will sell a lot of them. They need to be around 3 to 3500.00 and they will sell a lot of them.

When does Jegs charge your credit card? When you place the order, or when they shipped the block?

Ive been watching this thread for awhile and finally decided to chime in. The 4.5 bore block I received in April states Hemi #5 of 17 on crate with the current mopar pn however DOES appear to have been in a warehouse for quite some time.

When you say it appears to have been in a warehouse, do you mean some of the machined surfaces look they have been done for awhile? Did you guys get these blocks from a local Mopar dealers?

It seems they are trickle feeding these blocks out as they can machine them. Dealers themselves don't get any clear communication on block production scheduling.

A tip to anyone receiving one of these blocks check the quality of the machining immediately. I was meeting with one of our dealers last week who received a MP cast iron HEMI block that had pushrod notches machined so close the the cylinder bores that a head gasket will never seal it. It is not possible to adequately repair machining errors in critical areas like this. If you don't get back to MP within the 30 day limited warranty period it's tough luck.
Be sure to check this.

Well... Nov 5 passed with no update from Jegs.

Tomorrow I will probably just cancel my order. Anyone here have 1st hand experience with BMP aluminum hemi blocks?

Thanks
Craig

Well... Nov 5 passed with no update from Jegs.

Tomorrow I will probably just cancel my order. Anyone here have 1st hand experience with BMP aluminum hemi blocks?

Thanks
Craig

Don't give up so easily.

Now Jeg's says February.

Did some digging and found that the same guy who had the Mega block has a Series 2 Bridgeport for $5250. That's a sweet price for a machine that's quite a bit bigger than regular vertical spindle milling machines.

R.

I was told that Dalton out of Ohio is doing the Engine block castings

J&B out of Michigan is doing the machine work. I will have my two block here Monday!