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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2529084
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FMJ.....I'm wanting to ditch my Billet Specialties and go to steel LOOKING alum. wheels with hub caps, don't you have a guy that makes these? thumbs


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My oil pump is as visible as any other B-body oil pump on a Wedge. I was just so intrigued by the fact that Chrysler went ahead with an aluminum version back then for their A-990's, but how long could those pumps survive constant service now.

I am leaning towards the Milodon unit only because it should be eligible for constant service on the street. Make a note that my car is a weekend street car, not a daily driver. but sees plenty of traffic during those excursions aside from the occasional track visit.
I can get away with some massaging and masquerading with paints to make Milodon disappear to the naked eye.

Nowadays the alloys and processing is so much better and made for rigorous use. I know someone running aluminum Max Wedge long horn exhaust manifolds, but this car is a purpose built car only. Plus these recent manifolds were casted in a T-356 alloy to withstand the intense heat at the ports faces.

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No, I made only the aluminum disc cover that makes the standard Auto-drag centerlines look like a naked steel wheel. Some where on this long thread are the pics to the wheels during the process.
The Auto-drag Centerlines with the round rivets holding them together have the most stock looking ridges or crevices that are on a steel wheel, so they became the candidates for the main part of the wheels. When Special K and I both had a lightbulb moment to make the disc cover, I had a local machine shop spin 'em for me on their lathe. They mount on the wheel along with the lugs when installing the wheels themselves.
Nice and light.

PS: There is a guy in the F.A.S.T class posse that is rumored to have made steel looking aluminum wheels that mimic the Chevrolet steel wheels. But those are from an independent source.
I wish someone made the patterns and road testing rigors that a wheel has to go through, but that I$ all about $$$$$$. I know a vast majority of guys aside from the F.A.S.T and PURE stock guys would spring for them. I know I would be first on line with bribe money. LOL.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2529128
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Ok, thankxxx............what are we talking here in terms of added weight going from my alum. 10's in the rear and 3 1/2 fronts and say 4- 4 1/2 steelies up front any idea? thumbs

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #2529145
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My stock steel 4-1/2 wheels were 15-1/2" Lbs each.
The Auto drag centerline 3-1/2" wheels were 11 lbs each.

My stock steel "Ramcharger" 15" X 8" wheels were 23 Lbs each.
My Auto drag Centerline 15" X 8" were 14-1/2 Lbs each.

On the same note, it all boils down to tire selection since some tires are much heavier than others, even for the front narrow types. For instance, my 60's vintage "Super Stock Formula #1" front runners were 23 Lbs each. Heavier than the d@mm steel wheel itself, where as the Moroso drag tires were 13-1/2 Lbs each.
Made a big difference.

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I'm pretty much done track racing and want the stealthy look for late night stuff so not as bad as I thought and will run slicks and race fronts anyhow.......... thumbs


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For a number of years, I ran the centerlines just plain jane painted gloss black. At least that kept the prying eyes away for a short time till they were seen in broad day light.
If I ever make a few sets of the cover, "don't hold your breath" I'll send you a complimentary set to try out. That Dart with its body color would look mean with blacks all around.

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As a safety reminder, keep those 2 ply fronts clear from any pot holes or curves as the side walls are thin, hence why they are lighter than most other 4 ply tires. When I ran the Moroso Drag Specials on the street, I made sure to be extra, extra careful with irregular road conditions.

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It'd take a bit of searching but I do recall that post from FMJ about the spinning of the "stock" wheels


About halfway down is the first mention...
Stock wheels

By the way that was 5 minutes of searching... lol

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #2529199
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What cracks me up is Jegs still sells that ugly A$$ wheel

I like them so much better the way FMJ modded them


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2529213
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Originally Posted By fullmetaljacket
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For a number of years, I ran the centerlines just plain jane painted gloss black. At least that kept the prying eyes away for a short time till they were seen in broad day light.
If I ever make a few sets of the cover, "don't hold your breath" I'll send you a complimentary set to try out. That Dart with its body color would look mean with blacks all around.


That would rock but I get it and really want black hub capped stealth look and 9 second et's to boot............ drive


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Man you're asking for everything and plus the girl. LOL

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I believe the Auto drags are Centerlines best sellers of all time, or at least at one time.

I used to like the super tricks that the early Pro-stocks used with the bolts holding the two halves instead of the rivets.
I wonder how many cats would buy a stock looking aluminum wheel?
I mean, they've already made a billet rally wheel, (Heavy) why not produce what Chrysler was best known for, lightweight suited steelies.

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I'd buy them as long as the poverty caps still fit the aluminum version.


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here's the spun disc cover again topside. It hides those ugly rivets and brings the wheel closer to stock look.

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Here's the back side in raw form. Disc was made without the lug stud holes. I placed onto wheel surface, carefully centered and traced out the holes.

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Spinning wheels, she so fine.

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Suspect wheel in a certain class action suit.
I must say, this is really stealth if indeed it is of a light alloy. Those guys have free open reign as far as what they can invent under the midnight oil. Love it.

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Originally Posted By fullmetaljacket
Man you're asking for everything and plus the girl. LOL


I'm solidly in the 9's now and I don't see 40-50 lbs changing that much but we will find out when I make the change and hit the track for a "real world" test............ biggrin


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You should be in good territory even with the steel wheels.

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