engine dies at idle when in D only when car is very hot.
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Sound weird but some time ago I replaced the ps pump, since then I drove the car few times. All fine. However three last runs finished with the engine stalling when I was pulling over and turing right to my garage. The steering wheel was turn full right but leass a couple degrees. Then I checked it once again in garage - engine idling I turn wheels and bam - stall. The assist is soft as it always was, no jerky wheel movements.
I have n o pump to replace and check so I ask your advice.
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Re: engine dies at idle when steering right
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Does the RPM drop before the stall, or does it cut out?
Does it stall if you remove the power steering belt?
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Re: engine dies at idle when steering right
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Don't turn right?
Sorry that's the best I've got. Wish I had better. Although is there a chance when turning right the ignition switch is getting tugged on by tight wires or something screwy at the bottom of the column?
That's all I got.
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Ya, your probably loosing electrical contact somewhere in the electrical system. Check all connections everywhere. Firewall, coil, switch, anything corroded, or pinched.
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Its not electric related. Its like ps pump srops the engine. Car drives and turns fine when moving. Only when i turn wheels while car is stationary that happends. I guess relief valve may be stuck and pressure kills pump cause it cant escape ? Then take the belt off the power steering pump and try it as was suggested previously. Report back.
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Pump cavitating and putting stress on the system? Does it do it full left also? Why did you change the pump? May need to adjust the steering box slightly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3KFaAbCr2Y
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Re: engine dies at idle when steering right
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Its not electric related. Its like ps pump srops the engine. Weak tuneup or idle too low?
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If the pump locks up then that is your answer. Bad Pump. You change the pump and this problem started after y=that, correct? If so take that bad boy back and get a good one
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Re: engine dies at idle when steering right
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New facts - its not the p/s pump. Yesterday I drove 100+ miles in 100F heat and the problem emerged gradually as car was hotter. After first 30 miles of 60mph ride @3000 rpm when I stopped at red light the engine was in drive and died after 5 seconds, 20 miles later same thing but stalled right when I stopped. If I managed to put it in N before stop all was fine - no stalling. So definitely sth with temperature but:
- when stalled, it fired right away, no signs of boiling fuel, hard start. - fuel level correct - vacuum stedy in N and in D if engine is not hot (it it is warm nothing wrong happens, only after 15+ minutes of ride in hot conditions) - swapped chrome box for a blue napa unit - no change - When I pulled over and car rested for 20 minutes in sun, in 100F weather the problem was gone but got back in 10 minutes...
I thought maybe transmission got so hot it's starting to seize but could it survive all day ride then? Shifts fine, ATF is ok.
I think its not carb, not fuel, not ign box. May be coil overheated? Coil is blaster 2, dizzy MP magnetic, MP ballast (0.25), chrome box (with blue no change).
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Did you check for spark when it stalled?
I had a similar issue and it was my coil, new one fixed it. But it took awhile before the fault lasted long enough to find. Eventually, it stalled and I had no spark till it cooled off. But right now, it's guess work in your case.
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Check the gap on your pickup coil.
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