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Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: J_BODY] #2498490
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two things to consider when thinking about a rear end horsepower and weight..


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5.07 at 133 at 2700lb
Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: J_BODY] #2498567
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Originally Posted By J_BODY
Originally Posted By jlatessa
Hey Thumper, what has been done to your 8-3/4 to make it live??
Thinking about ours, nodular, back brace, etc.?


Thanks, Joe


Limit your track visits is the best insurance laugh2

iagree LOL, I was thinking the same thing.


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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2498625
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Fact is I make more power and am faster that the above car from what I've seen in other videos and HE broke not me so whatever gets your goat guys and what used to bug me, now makes me laugh as my junk has outlasted LOTS of guys here and elsewhere............ boogie penguin drive


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Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: mopar_man619] #2498628
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How many 9 sec passes have you made in 15 years Dom?


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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2498635
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Originally Posted By an8sec70cuda
How many 9 sec passes have you made in 15 years Dom?




In all fairness the car in this video isn’t running 9’s either


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5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.38@138.67


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Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2498642
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Originally Posted By an8sec70cuda
How many 9 sec passes have you made in 15 years Dom?


I don't keep track as I'm not a Pro drag racer or bracket guy but more than some slower cars who kill their 8 3/4's in short order and again, who cares and all good on my end cos I KNOW what I have and I've tested 100+ carbs on my car and drive it like at the track to properly verify afr's and power but must say, my motors tired and time for a freshening............


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Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: Thumperdart] #2498657
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I don't want to sound like a jerk but if you have a car that can run in the 9's and use a transbrake at a track and the car hooks up, a 8 3/4" rear end will brake.

I'll even through out a number, whithin 15-20 launches.

Foot driving will keep them alive, Brett Miller is proof of that.

Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: Biginchmopar] #2498671
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Originally Posted By Biginchmopar
I don't want to sound like a jerk but if you have a car that can run in the 9's and use a transbrake at a track and the car hooks up, a 8 3/4" rear end will brake.

I'll even through out a number, whithin 15-20 launches.

Foot driving will keep them alive, Brett Miller is proof of that.


Totally agree and probably my saving grace as well as Bret and other FAST azz cars and a 9" will be the rear of choice when the time comes to step up............ thumbs


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Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: mopar_man619] #2498690
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Oh man that's ruff. Bummer your stuff went 'clunk'. Hope the fix is quick and good in time for your next run. That dana looked like an old hockey player missing all those teeth.

Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: mopar_man619] #2498748
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The worst beating happens in the first foot or two. I would have to think a very efficient converter behind a high torque bigblock is the toughest on the ring and pinion, if you don't use a brake and it hooks hard.

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Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: mopar_man619] #2498803
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I might be wrong but looking at the ring gear, it looks like trans locked up first and that broke the ring gear.

Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: migsBIG] #2500149
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Originally Posted By migsBIG
Oh man that's ruff. Bummer your stuff went 'clunk'. Hope the fix is quick and good in time for your next run. That dana looked like an old hockey player missing all those teeth.


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Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: mopar_man619] #2500151
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the blue duster we run still has an 8 3/4 in it


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Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: Biginchmopar] #2500225
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Originally Posted By Biginchmopar
I don't want to sound like a jerk but if you have a car that can run in the 9's and use a transbrake at a track and the car hooks up, a 8 3/4" rear end will brake.

I'll even through out a number, whithin 15-20 launches.

Foot driving will keep them alive, Brett Miller is proof of that.


I've been running my 8 3/4 with a alum center
for years.. the car is light.. leave the line
at 5600 rpm shift at 8200.. I broke a totally
stock one when a cap broke(thats when I changed
to the alum center.. weight is the killer
EDIT
every launch running a trans brake
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Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2500538
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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY


I've been running my 8 3/4 with a alum center
for years..


Keep it off the track, and a 8.75 will live forever.... here’s your proof! laugh2

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Originally Posted By J_BODY
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY


I've been running my 8 3/4 with a alum center
for years..


Keep it off the track, and a 8.75 will live forever.... here’s your proof! laugh2
8 3/4 have their places.. let's face it if you're making a fair amount of power in a heavy car it won't last very long on a decent track..💣


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Originally Posted By J_BODY
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY


I've been running my 8 3/4 with a alum center
for years..


Keep it off the track, and a 8.75 will live forever.... here’s your proof! laugh2



BS,Beat the hell out of em on the street AND the track in a slo azz mid 9 second car in the low 1.3 60's and IT will live for many, many happy years................. stirthepot beer


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Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: Thumperdart] #2500733
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Originally Posted By Thumperdart
Originally Posted By J_BODY
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY


I've been running my 8 3/4 with a alum center
for years..


Keep it off the track, and a 8.75 will live forever.... here’s your proof! laugh2



BS,Beat the hell out of em on the street AND the track in a slo azz mid 9 second car in the low 1.3 60's and IT will live for many, many happy years................. stirthepot beer


Not worth my time.. I guess he built a tank and
the 8 3/4 broke.. my car is light and its holding
up fine with a back brace and the alum center
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Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2500736
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Posts like this could go on forever and are a waste of time. Some cars sit in the garage for years without hitting the tracks so unless you have some numbers on passes, et’s, weight, etc etc etc it’s “fake news”.


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422 Indy headed small block
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9.38@138.67


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Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: pittsburghracer] #2500759
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You got my numbers.. and your right.. its a waste
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